Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 15/16

Buford T. Justice XIX

Klopp gives the reasons for signing Matip

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/207474-klopp-reveals-reasons-behind-move-for-matip

Knex*

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Klopp gives the reasons for signing Matip

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/207474-klopp-reveals-reasons-behind-move-for-matip

Full vid (gonna rob the crap outta your thanks, Buford!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fqRikdAjUE

Buford T. Justice XIX

Knex. wrote: »

Full vid (gonna rob the crap outta your thanks, Buford!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fqRikdAjUE

martyos121

Knex. wrote: »

Full vid (gonna rob the crap outta your thanks, Buford!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fqRikdAjUE

I just thanked Buford's post in protest of yours.

mosstin

emmetkenny wrote: »

We could chain him to a bike rack in Liverpool and someone would nick him.

Seems the simplest solution to me

Sounds like a waste of chain to me.

SuperTortoise

mosstin wrote: »

Sounds like a waste of chain to me.

+ The cost of storing his ego would fund a small country for decades

5starpool

Well there goes his big chance. Kevin Stewart injures ankle ligaments, out for a while.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-midfielder-kevin-stewart-10902542

Very unlucky.

Harry Palmr

Well we won't go into full on panic mode until we know!

Seriously though, it would be a pity for him, esp as Brannagan is likely to be taking his place and could nail that down.

~Rebel~

5starpool wrote: »

Well there goes his big chance. Kevin Stewart injures ankle ligaments, out for a while.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-midfielder-kevin-stewart-10902542

Very unlucky.

Poor fella. We've had a lot of those this season, serious injuries just as players are hitting their stride.

Knex*

martyos121 wrote: »

I just thanked Buford's post in protest of yours.

Hipster thanker

MentalMario

When was the last time a free transfer worked out for Liverpool?

Matip has failure written all over it.

Pepp1989

MentalMario wrote:

Matip has failure written all over it.

That's the spirit!

Buford T. Justice XIX

MentalMario wrote: »

When was the last time a free transfer worked out for Liverpool?

Matip has failure written all over it.

Kolo Toure says Hi....

noodler

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Kolo Toure says Hi....

I also completely disagree that milner has been a failure.

noodler

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Kolo Toure says Hi....

I also completely disagree that milner has been a failure.

MentalMario

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Kolo Toure says Hi....

If a 4th choice centre back is considered a success, we really are in a bad place.

What has Kolo done to be deemed a success? He's been average, at best.

Mediocre players breed mediocre results and a mediocre finishing position in the league.

There's a serious lack of quality in the Liverpool team right now and buying squad filler like Matip isn't going to change that.

Klopp can spout whatever crap he wants but it's time to be realistic.

MentalMario

noodler wrote: »

I also completely disagree that milner has been a failure.

Not been a failure isn't being a good signing, though.

It's about time we stopped accepting average. There's a reason why we're where we are in the league, it's because of the serious lack of quality in the squad.

Milner would be a very good squad player but I just can't accept that he's good enough to be a starter when we have a full side. The sad thing is, he's one of the first names on the teamsheet at the moment.

~Rebel~

MentalMario wrote: »

If a 4th choice centre back is considered a success, we really are in a bad place.

What has Kolo done to be deemed a success? He's been average, at best.

Mediocre players breed mediocre results and a mediocre finishing position in the league.

There's a serious lack of quality in the Liverpool team right now and buying squad filler like Matip isn't going to change that.

Klopp can spout whatever crap he wants but it's time to be realistic.

Every player is brought in for a purpose, with an expectation. To be fair, Kolo has been the best 4th choice CB we've had in 20 odd years I'd say. He's been about as much of a success as a backup guy can be.

But anyway, how you come by a player has absolutely nothing to do with how successful that player will be. May as well be talking about players signed on a Monday or some other ridiculous arbitrary factor. Schalke didn't want to lose him, he turned down their new contract, so it's not like he's some cast off.

klose

Maxi was pretty good on a free

J Mysterio

I just ran into this on t'internet so thought I would leave it here.

Buford T. Justice XIX

MentalMario wrote: »

If a 4th choice centre back is considered a success, we really are in a bad place.

What has Kolo done to be deemed a success? He's been average, at best.

Mediocre players breed mediocre results and a mediocre finishing position in the league.

There's a serious lack of quality in the Liverpool team right now and buying squad filler like Matip isn't going to change that.

Klopp can spout whatever crap he wants but it's time to be realistic.

Stared 10.
Won 6.
Draw 4.
Lost 0.

You're setting the bar too high.

And that's not even discussing his off the field qualities either.

kfallon

MentalMario wrote: »

What has Kolo done to be deemed a success? He's been average, at best.

He's still been better than Skrtel, Lovren & Sakho who were all brought in for big money!

kfallon

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Stared 10.
Won 6.
Draw 4.
Lost 0.

You're setting the bar too high.

And that's not even discussing his off the field qualities either.

He lost v Utd

8-10

Klopp wrote:

We have enough strikers – five with Roberto (Firmino) – but not too many wingers, just a few young ones with great potential.

Maybe a winger or 2 to come in the summer....?

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-boss-jurgen-klopp-10902720

JB81

Hopefully looking at same team as weekend for tomorrow night then? No cup game at weekend may be a blessing in disguise.

Plan would be to score at least one ( hopefully 2/3 ), and bring a lead back to Anfield.

Now that our first XI is looking stronger then so should our second string
( tough luck for young Stewart though ) and hopefully this would be good enough to finish them at home and have first XI ( same as Villa game ) out for the cup final, maybe Lovren in for Toure.

Team for second leg would look like:

Mignolet, Flanagan, Caulker, LLori / Lovren, Smith, Lucas, Allen(Inj?), Teixeria, Lallana, Origi, Benteke

Iused2likebusts

Milner has improved the starting eleven. Apart from Henderson there is no other midfielder at the club as good. When used in attacking positions he will still contribute more than the likes of ibe and lallana.

noodler

MentalMario wrote: »

Not been a failure isn't being a good signing, though.

It's about time we stopped accepting average. There's a reason why we're where we are in the league, it's because of the serious lack of quality in the squad.

Milner would be a very good squad player but I just can't accept that he's good enough to be a starter when we have a full side. The sad thing is, he's one of the first names on the teamsheet at the moment.

Well then maybe base your opinion on his title winning years and CL experience with city and not the kneejerk reaction here to little more than have a season in one of the worst league campaigns in living memory.

Knex*

https://twitter.com/MelissaReddy_/status/699722565548433408

Stewart has injured his ankle.

It seems that every time a young player starts to make a name for himself recently, they get injured. Gomez, Ings, Origi, Stewart, Rossiter. Can even go back to Flanagan and Martin Kelly before that.

Big injuries at crucial times, for the large part. Hopefully Stewart's turns out to be minor.

Kimbot

Aurelio even tho he was made of glass was a success mostly with us and was free

rob316

jonny24ie wrote: »

Aurelio even tho he was made of glass was a success mostly with us and was free

Very good player when he played. Always remember that free kick at Old Trafford in 09 and the one at Stamford Bridge in the CL that season.

Glico Man

Knex. wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MelissaReddy_/status/699722565548433408

Stewart has injured his ankle.

It seems that every time a young player starts to make a name for himself recently, they get injured. Gomez, Ings, Origi, Stewart, Rossiter. Can even go back to Flanagan and Martin Kelly before that.

Big injuries at crucial times, for the large part. Hopefully Stewart's turns out to be minor.

Probably sound like a broken record with my own praise of him, but I've felt like Stewart's not missed a beat whenever he's played. Granted his shooting has been a little wayward (very in his case), but he's slotted into the midfield incredibly well. Hasn't looked out of place at all imo.

Gutted for the lad, and can only hope its a short term thing for him and nothing major.

8-10

I haven't been overly impressed by Kevin Stewart yet. I thought he was poor against West Ham, very slow at times and would have taken him off instead of Chirivella. With the Europa League in the knockout phase I'd prefer to be playing as close to a full first team as possible in every game and I don't think Stewart would have been close to being in the first team squad anyway. Having said that obviously hope he's not too badly injured and gets back fit asap! But no great loss this season at least, we have better players fit and ahead of him.

Edit: Stewart wasn't even in the Europa League squad anyway so my point is moot - he wouldn't have played anyway. So it's only the EPL and League Cup final where we'll miss him

8-10

JB81 wrote: »

Hopefully looking at same team as weekend for tomorrow night then? No cup game at weekend may be a blessing in disguise.

Plan would be to score at least one ( hopefully 2/3 ), and bring a lead back to Anfield.

Now that our first XI is looking stronger then so should our second string
( tough luck for young Stewart though ) and hopefully this would be good enough to finish them at home and have first XI ( same as Villa game ) out for the cup final, maybe Lovren in for Toure.

Team for second leg would look like:

Mignolet, Flanagan, Caulker, LLori / Lovren, Smith, Lucas, Allen(Inj?), Teixeria, Lallana, Origi, Benteke

Flanagan and Illori not in the EL squad

Buford T. Justice XIX

Rumour doing the rounds that Lavezzi has signed for Hebei China Fortune.

One less link to us this summer if true.

rob316

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Rumour doing the rounds that Lavezzi has signed for Hebei China Fortune.

One less link to us this summer if true.

No rumour its a done deal. €30m per year he will earn!

emo72

Feckin Chinese hoovering up all the good players. Thought they were meant to be a great bunch of lads.

Buford T. Justice XIX

emo72 wrote: »

Feckin Chinese hoovering up all the good players. Thought they were meant to be a great bunch of lads.

When they take Balotelli, they will be the best bunch of lads EVER.

I just wish they would hurry up and get it done though.

corwill

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

When they take Balotelli, they will be the best bunch of lads EVER.

I just wish they would hurry up and get it done though.

Mario's not exactly imbued with the Chinese work ethic or fond of the sort of discipline that prevails in a single-party dictatorship, though, is he?

I'm reconciled to the big auld dope stinking up the place until mid-2017, anything other than that will come as a pleasant surprise.

Knex*

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

When they take Balotelli, they will be the best bunch of lads EVER.

I just wish they would hurry up and get it done though.

I have an idea.

Harry Palmr

MentalMario wrote: »

When was the last time a free transfer worked out for Liverpool?

Matip has failure written all over it.

a few good frees

Babbel, Litmanen, Bellamy, Gary Mac, Maxi, Fowler, Pellegrino (why? cos he gave Hyypia games off for the CL)

Knex*

Markus Babbel was outstanding before his illness.

MD1990

Apart from Teixeira. China hasn't signed any players in there peak. All players who are looking for one last big paycheck.

Harry Palmr

Sounds like a gig for Balo then! :pac:

BullBlackNova

Harry Palmr wrote: »

a few good frees

Babbel, Litmanen, Bellamy, Gary Mac, Maxi, Fowler, Pellegrino (why? cos he gave Hyypia games off for the CL)

There's a player I completely forgot had played for us. Had to Google him to refresh my memory!!

MD1990 wrote: »

Apart from Teixeira. China hasn't signed any players in there peak. All players who are looking for one last big paycheck.

Of course - it's always the case of emerging leagues or those back by massive money. Look at Qatar, etc a few years ago with plenty of fashionable sounding but not very players and end-of-career Spaniards making the move there.

All the Chinese league has to offer right now is money. There is no commercial interests, no likelihood of international games, etc. Only certain players will be interested in that.

MLS wasn't too dissimilar until they realised that developing their own players benefits everyone instead. That said, still plenty of end of year paycheck players going there but it's not the only imports into the league as it was a few seasons ago.

Vicxas

Where are the Chinese getting the money for all these players!?

Kerrigooney

Vicxas wrote: »

Where are the Chinese getting the money for all these players!?

Everyone is eating spicebags these days.

54and56

Vicxas wrote: »

Where are the Chinese getting the money for all these players!?

The Chinese Govt want to broaden their economy to be less reliant on manufacturing and property so are promoting investment in services and entertainment and having a world class football league is one way they can demonstrate their economic muscle.

Good article here - http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10154676/the-chinese-revolution-explaining-the-explosion-of-moves-to-china

Buford T. Justice XIX

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

The Chinese Govt want to broaden their economy to be less reliant on manufacturing and property so are promoting investment in services and entertainment and having a world class football league is one way they can demonstrate their economic muscle.

Good article here - http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10154676/the-chinese-revolution-explaining-the-explosion-of-moves-to-china

Yeah, similar to the oil economies buying Man City and the like.

5starpool

Fair play to FC Augsburg, this is great.

https://twitter.com/FCA_World/status/699909031654248448

MonkeyTennis

God its a rough sounding barbaric language.

Germans not easy to listen to either.