Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 15/16

J Mysterio

Washington Irving wrote: »

Charlie Adams in a slim fitting all white tracksuit is not something I ever wanted to see.

Adam

What's the story with the Spurs section not being in the soccer forum ?

Magico Gonzalez

Deleted User wrote: »

What's the story with the Spurs section not being in the soccer forum ?

We all took a vote and fcked them out. You must have missed it

klose

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What's the story with the Spurs section not being in the soccer forum ?

Oh boy that's a can worms that dosent need to be reopened apparently it was there before they banned club specific forums so they kept it on, I think there's also a Chelsea specific forum somewhere too.

Buford T. Justice XIX

8-10 wrote: »

I hate when people do this sort of thing with stats. He's scored 48 goals in 84 appearances of which 68 were starts and 16 as a substitute. This is accurate.

If Reddit or whoever want to look at the 68 starts then they should exclude goals scored from the bench after coming on. Maybe it's only 1 or 2 (anyone know?) but it's still not 48 scored in the same 68 games where he started.

Either go with the total scored in the 68 or say it's 48 from 84. Saying "Daniel Sturridge has started 68 matches for Liverpool and scored 48 goals" makes it sound like every one of those 48 were in the 68 games.

Take out the goals as a sub and it's still likely a very impressive rate of scoring. So why embellish it with creative accounting?

/pedantic rant

Liars, damn liars and statisticians.

mada999

SlickRic wrote: »

Joe Allen is actually growing on me. Great player to have in the squad.

Prefer him to Henderson at the moment tbh, injury to Hendo or not.

yeah me too... he's doing ok under Klopp!

whatawaster

mada999 wrote: »

yeah me too... he's doing ok under Klopp!

Also "I believe in a thing called Lovren"

corwill

whatawaster wrote: »

Also "I believe in a thing called Lovren"

"Get Your Hands Off My Allen"

ush

mada999 wrote: »

yeah me too... he's doing ok under Klopp!

Thats a song about genital warts.

Luckycharms_74

Harry Palmr wrote: »

How did he play today, was he putting it about or strollin'?

He was class.
If he can get back to performing like than and stop sulking whilst staying injury free, I honestly think we have the best striker in the league on par with Aguero.

OwaynOTT

ush wrote: »

Thats a song about genital warts.

I thought it was about pubic lice?

Talisman

Charlie19 wrote: »

I read somewhere today that we're the highest scorers in 2016

Shush! It's merely a coincidence but Brendan Rodgers was quite fond of telling the masses that his team's form improves after Christmas.

ush

OwaynOTT wrote: »

I thought it was about pubic lice?

They're still around?

x43r0

whatawaster wrote: »

Also "I believe in a thing called Lovren"

corwill wrote: »

"Get Your Hands Off My Allen"

Harry Palmr

Has anyone mentioned Jordon Ibe throwing his toys out of the social media pram?

Vicxas

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Has anyone mentioned Jordon Ibe throwing his toys out of the social media pram?

Its sad to see.

Knex*

Be Bop A Lula - "Divock Origi"

OwaynOTT

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Has anyone mentioned Jordon Ibe throwing his toys out of the social media pram?

What's the back of the cereal box?

J Mysterio

No need to get rid of him, he's still only 20.

Dickerty

J Mysterio wrote: »

No need to get rid of him, he's still only 20.

Young player in "throw a strop" shocker...

cj maxx

Dickerty wrote: »

Young player in "throw a strop" shocker...

Missed that, what did he do ?

J Mysterio

cjmc wrote: »

Missed that, what did he do ?

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2631959-liverpool-transfer-news-jordon-ibe-appears-to-spark-reds-exit-rumours

Dickerty

cjmc wrote: »

Missed that, what did he do ?

Removed all LFC stuff from his Twitter profile...

emo72

Whatever happened to putting your head down and improving in training and fighting your way back in? Bleedin kids these days. The last couple of performances I seen of him he certainly didn't set the world on fire.

SuperTortoise

Full season on loan in the premership next year, preferably at some team that plays decent football would be ideal, he's only just turned 20 and despite his form there is talent there, i would be disappointed to see him sold this summer.

Swansea, Bounermouth, and the likes would be good options.

mada999

ush wrote: »

Thats a song about genital warts.

:pac:

OwaynOTT

Much ado about nothing really. Everything is over analysed these days and there's just too much 'information'.

corwill

emo72 wrote: »

Whatever happened to putting your head down and improving in training and fighting your way back in? Bleedin kids these days. The last couple of performances I seen of him he certainly didn't set the world on fire.

It's the lingering legacy of Sterling's & Aidy Ward's carry on last year. Same self-entitled, unreflective behaviour from Jerome Sinclair. Some snake of agent whispering about not been shown "respek'".

Ibe's mum negotiated his last contract, but I wonder if there's now an actual agent sniffing about in the background.

Turtyturd

I like Ibe but he can have no complaints. Klopp has showed a lot of faith in him but bar a couple of glimpses he hasn't really done anything to justify it.

OrgasmicBaz

Ye maybe Ibe will benefit from spending a season on loan at a premiership side, someone like Villa or Newcastle.... Oh Wait

BorneTobyWilde

This game with Dortmundy is won if score remains the same, will we set up to make score remain the same.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Hasn't Klopp said he doesn't want players out on loan but to develop them at Anfield?

Grayditch

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

This game with Dortmundy is won if score remains the same, will we set up to make score remain the same.

Like a Christmas tree formation, if your Christmas tree was a fake and still in the box.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

This game with Dortmundy is won if score remains the same, will we set up to make score remain the same.

You mean, hold them to nil? Don't see that working.

klose

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Hasn't Klopp said he doesn't want players out on loan but to develop them at Anfield?

That was grand for him at Dortmund as BVBII, their "reserve" team, played in a structured league against other senior teams much like they do in the bundesliga. So when he had youth players knocking about the first team but not getting into the match day squad they simply went off and played for their reserve team. The u21 league in England is a farce so any youth players might not a run of games in ages, great to have em knocking about the senior team but game time is sparse by the looks.

Dickerty

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

This game with Dortmundy is won if score remains the same, will we set up to make score remain the same.

That's a very roundabout way of saying "Do you think we play for a 0-0?"

8-10

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Hasn't Klopp said he doesn't want players out on loan but to develop them at Anfield?

He probably has a skewed view of it this season as we're playing a minimum of 60 games this year and there's been times where the squad has been short and he's actually had to bring a player in on loan (Caulker) as he couldn't recall others. There was that run of League Cup and FA Cup games where if there were less players on loan they would have gotten the run out.

But we're not going to be playing 60 games every season so if you have a year with no European Football (could be us next year) and out of the cups early with players at Anfield rather than on loan you will end up with a huge squad just for league games and most won't get a chance.

What I would like is nobody going on loan after the age of 22. At 23+ you should either be ready for the first team fringes or sold. Exception being goalkeepers and maybe an extra year for defenders. Players of 22 and under who actually look likely to push for a future first-team should absolutely be allowed to go out on loan a year or 2 before we're looking to use them - there should be no issue with this. If Klopp doesn't like the year-long deals with no recalls then that's what you change - give them half a season at Melwood and the other half for Championship / PL experience and if the loaning clubs don't agree to half a season then don't loan them. We should only be looking to loan to clubs who are short in that position and in need of a player to plug that gap for a few months.

And my preference is always for English-based loans ahead of Europe. The likes of Luis Alberto, Balotelli and Markovic are only out on loan there now to be in the shop window in my opinion. None had futures at Anfield when let go on loan. Markovic would be recalled if he could be since and the other 2 remain in the wilderness.

I can see where Klopp's coming from but I don't think no loans at all will be the answer to anything. Having the younger players train in and around the first team and get them used to the team's philosophy is definitely invaluable experience. But as mentioned before the games that the reserves play in is not going to help with a players readiness for being thrown into a first team game. So balance the 2 with shorter loans to spend more time at home, with short loans within England, ideally at Championship clubs, to get match experience when player is closer to the first team

Buford T. Justice XIX

Klopp on Sturrudge... 'Today I want to speak about Daniel Sturridge'

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jurgen-klopp-today-want-speak-11166137

BorneTobyWilde

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

This game with Dortmundy is won if score remains the same, will we set up to make score remain the same

I doubt it, we are missing Hendo from CM but have Sturridge, Origi, Coutinho & Lallana all fit and in form and Firmino back from injury.

Mig & back 4.
Either Lucas or Allen will start with Can & Milner in midfield with Coutinho #10.

That leaves Sturridge, Origi, Firmino & Lallana for the other two starting spots.

I'm hoping for Sturridge & Origi but that leaves us vulnerable for extra time so I reckon Sturridge will be on the bench. Can't see Lallana ahead of Firmino with Origi as striker so it's Firmino and Origi starting with the thinking being there's 120 mins in Origi if required.

Magico Gonzalez

If Ibe wants to stay, learn and work hard then great, but if he thinks he is entitled to play first team football without putting the performances in to earn it then I won't bat an eyelid if he leaves. Ojo looks an able replacement and we'll see more recruits and probably Markovic back in the mix, hopefullly hungry to prove himself.

I'd have Sinclair gone already on the basis that he is a nobody that think's he is a somebody. Plenty ahead of him up front.

We're still going to have less resources than the teams we want to displace in the top 4, we can only do it if all the players are united. No room for whingers demand respect without earning it.

Muahahaha

I like Divock Origi, he has a similar strike rate to Anthony Martial this season and he didn't cost £50m

Turtyturd

Muahahaha wrote: »

I like Divock Origi, he has a similar strike rate to Anthony Martial this season and he didn't cost £50m

He's a good role model to the likes of Martial. Knuckle down and put in the work and he could become nearly as good as Origi.

Grayditch

Turtyturd wrote: »

He's a good role model to the likes of Martial. Knuckle down and put in the work and he could become nearly as good as Origi.

5...4...3...2....

5starpool

I hope there isn't the same markdown applied to the man himself.

corwill

Turtyturd wrote: »

He's a good role model to the likes of Martial. Knuckle down and put in the work and he could become nearly as good as Origi.

Super-Rush

Turtyturd wrote: »

He's a good role model to the likes of Martial. Knuckle down and put in the work and he could become nearly as good as Origi.

and maybe one day he can secure a move to a big club.....

5starpool

Super-Rush wrote: »

and maybe one day he can secure a move to a big club.....

Leicester might be interested if he is lucky.

Harry Palmr

Muahahaha wrote: »

I like Divock Origi, he has a similar strike rate to Anthony Martial this season and he didn't cost £50m

He's the Lidl Anthony Martial.

LOAN WATCH

Lloyd Jones (Blackpool) not in Match squad so played for LFC U21s (where he scored)
Vigouroux, (Swindon Town) Vig out with a knock
Wisdom (Norwich) played full game in defeat to Palace
Markovic (Fenerbache) injured and apparently back at Melwood for rest of season
Samed Yesil (Lucerne) unused sub
Taiwo (FSV Frankfurt) assisted FSV goal in 1-4 defeat
Sergi Canos (Brentford) started two games played approx 65 and 70 mins scoring in first game of the week
Balotelli (Milan) started game and got an assist! (see his valuation rocket now! )
Alberto (Deportivo) full game in 1-3 defeat.
Guijic ( Red Star Belgrade) injured
Fulton (Portsmouth) not in squad
Allan (Sint-Truidense) played 66 mins in 1-1 draw in EL qualification Mini League - they look most unlikely to be playing in Europe as things stand.

Kerrigooney

Lots of rumours on Twitter tonight about this fella.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlZYFRjB0xs

Kerrigooney

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Lots of Mamoud mours on Twitter tonight about this fella.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlZYFRjB0xs

mamoud in dahoud