Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 15/16

murpho999

Umaro wrote: »

Just spend the bloody money. Hasn't the messing with Willian, Mkhitaryan, Konoplyanka, etc taught us anything.. We'll recoup it in the summer when we offload the players Klopp doesn't rate.

We should be adding 1 new first team player in each window. This is the only way we'll close the skill gap to the Top 4.

Deals aren't as simple as that and there are often other factors than money.

Also, Konoplyanka, was not Liverpool's fault at all as was well known at the time.

Dickerty

Grayditch wrote: »

Only joking. London is great and I love when I simple have to go there and can't get out of it.

So a big fan?
I like it for a day or two, staying in 5 star hotels and eating on expenses!

garra

murpho999 wrote: »

Deals aren't as simple as that and there are often other factors than money.

Also, Konoplyanka, was not Liverpool's fault at all as was well known at the time.

Mickey Tiernan was probably not Liverpools fault either, he eventually joined an exciting team playing Champions league football with a fantastic manager. Sometimes throwing money at a problem is not the answer.

AidySevenfold

Artur Petrosyan

Teixeira missed another day of training. Initial bid rejected. #LFC have to up the bid & sign without a medical. Riskey, but it could be late.


Not a huge fan of signing without a medical, can't see that happening anyways.

AidySevenfold

Artur Petrosyan

Teixeira missed another day of training. Initial bid rejected. #LFC have to up the bid & sign without a medical. Riskey, but it could be late.


Not a huge fan of signing without a medical, can't see that happening anyways.

54and56

AidySevenfold wrote: »

#LFC have to up the bid & sign without a medical. Riskey, but it could be late.

Signing without a medical is a major red flag and should either result in the club walking away from the deal or negotiating a serious discount to reflect the massive risk they are being asked to take on.

dogbert27

AidySevenfold wrote: »

Artur Petrosyan

Teixeira missed another day of training. Initial bid rejected. #LFC have to up the bid & sign without a medical. Riskey, but it could be late.


Not a huge fan of signing without a medical, can't see that happening anyways.

Are we able to return him and get our money back or will they only give is store credit?

Vicxas

Sign without a medical? Not a bloody hope!!

dogbert27

After turning down Remy for 8 million due to apparent findings in his medical the owners will not sanction a deal without a medical for any player.

AidySevenfold

Yep, if anyone has Twitter you can check his profile out and see pictures after Teixeira did his hamstring. He thinks Shaktar will sell but will downplay the extent of his hamstring injury. Warning signs definately blinking...

rob316

That tweet is ridiculous he has a hamstring injury not a torn ACL. You can still do a thorough medical, a hamstring strain isn't a serious injury. It serious medical conditions or extensive muscle damage due to injury that they look for in a medical. Liverpool would hardly sign a player especially one that cost £30m without one.

Riesen_Meal

AidySevenfold wrote: »

Yep, if anyone has Twitter you can check his profile out and see pictures after Teixeira did his hamstring. He thinks Shaktar will sell but will downplay the extent of his hamstring injury. Warning signs definately blinking...

Absolutely, with all that money being thrown at these players could they not fly a few Red Sox doctors up for a medical or something?

ricero

Can see a backlash against the owners and ayre if we muck up this deal or chelsea pip us to another player again.

Francie Barrett

If we buy an injured player, we deserve everything we get.

BMJD

you couldn't blame FSG/Ayre for walking away if Shaktar are looking for more money and no medical

dogbert27

Allardyce is looking for a new keeper. Any chance he'll re-sign Mignolet to Sunderland for us??

Turtyturd

This will go one of two ways.

We sign him without the medical and he turns into another Sturridge.

Another team signs him without the medical and he turns out great.

Turtyturd

This will go one of two ways.

We sign him without the medical and he turns into another Sturridge.

Another team signs him without the medical and he turns out great.

Tusky

The stuff about signing without a medical - don't believe everything you read on Twitter.

murpho999

I don't believe a transfer can go through without a medical, I would say there are compliance and insurance issues.

That Twitter lad is a chancer like most of them.

Sappy404

Petrosyan is the guy who was 100% sure a deal was done for his 'friend' Mkhitaryan. He might well know more than most about the lad's current injury, but it's pure guesswork on his part if he's suggesting the lad would have to be signed without a medical.

Riesen_Meal

Norwich Presser :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EgsGzBzJ6Q

Very interesting comments about Texeira, went very coy!!!

amiable

murpho999 wrote: »

I don't believe a transfer can go through without a medical, I would say there are compliance and insurance issues.

That Twitter lad is a chancer like most of them.

Transfers have been done previously without medicals.
Although I doubt that is the case in this situation.
Generally happens when the window is about to close on Deadline Day.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Turtyturd wrote: »

This will go one of two ways.

We sign him without the medical and he turns into another Sturridge.

Another team signs him without the medical and he turns out great.

That's a sure sign you've been supporting Liverpool for too long.

In fairness, though, we've surely become the worlds best football club for dealing with hamstring injuries with the dealings we've had over the last few months.

Potential Underachiever

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Potential Underachiever

Why did Sturridge cross the road? He didn't, he was unable.


Tune in for tomorrows installment of 'Sturridge jokes for boards folks' sponsored by Thankswhoring and Chorley FM 'where the listener comes first'.

spockety

ricero wrote: »

Can see a backlash against the owners and ayre if we muck up this deal or chelsea pip us to another player again.

There will be no backlash. The Owners and Ayre got us Jurgen Klopp only 3 months ago, and as a result have secured a significant period immune to backlashery.

Turtyturd

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

That's a sure sign you've been supporting Liverpool for too long.

In fairness, though, we've surely become the worlds best football club for dealing with hamstring injuries with the dealings we've had over the last few months.

Talk about scraping the barrel for positives. :pac:

In a similar vein...at least ACL tears are down.

Agent Coulson

Sturridge: Liverpool striker out for 10 more days

Liverpool striker Daniel Sturridge will be absent for at least another 10 days as he continues to battle injury.
Sturridge, who has made only 10 Premier League starts since the beginning of last season, has not played since injuring a hamstring on 6 December.
Manager Jurgen Klopp says he will be patient over the England forward, 26.
"Out of responsibility, we have to do everything we can to give him the physical strength to be able to play Premier League football," Klopp said.

"To have a player like Daniel in your squad is always a good situation, and when it's not possible to use him, it's not a good situation.
"He's not with the team at the moment. But we have enough games this season when we hopefully can use him but not, if nothing happens, for at least the next 10 days," he added.
Sturridge, who joined Liverpool from Chelsea for £12m in January 2013, has suffered a series of injury troubles during his time at Anfield.
He suffered four separate setbacks last season, including a torn hip muscle that required surgery, and has managed just six appearances in all competitions this term.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35380658

Agent Coulson

Sturridge: Liverpool striker out for 10 more days

Liverpool striker Daniel Sturridge will be absent for at least another 10 days as he continues to battle injury.
Sturridge, who has made only 10 Premier League starts since the beginning of last season, has not played since injuring a hamstring on 6 December.
Manager Jurgen Klopp says he will be patient over the England forward, 26.
"Out of responsibility, we have to do everything we can to give him the physical strength to be able to play Premier League football," Klopp said.

"To have a player like Daniel in your squad is always a good situation, and when it's not possible to use him, it's not a good situation.
"He's not with the team at the moment. But we have enough games this season when we hopefully can use him but not, if nothing happens, for at least the next 10 days," he added.
Sturridge, who joined Liverpool from Chelsea for £12m in January 2013, has suffered a series of injury troubles during his time at Anfield.
He suffered four separate setbacks last season, including a torn hip muscle that required surgery, and has managed just six appearances in all competitions this term.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35380658

x43r0

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Sturridge: Liverpool striker out for 10 more days

In other news, the sun rose today.

Reports suggest that it is expected to set later on this afternoon.

We will keep you updated as the situation unfolds

Turtyturd

x43r0 wrote: »

In other news, the sun rose today.

Reports suggest that it is expected to set later on this afternoon.

We will keep you updated as the situation unfolds

Tune in for tomorrow's installment of 'Sun jokes for...

amiable

Turtyturd wrote: »

Tune in for tomorrow's installment of 'Sun jokes for...

I thought this was the Liverpool thread?

Potential Underachiever

Klopp : To have a player like Daniel in your squad is always a good situation, and when it's not possible to use him, it's not a good situation.


I hear ya Jurgen, I hear ya.

Harry Palmr

With the second leg of the League Cup on Tuesday I wonder will Klopp field a slightly weakened/youthful side for Norwich? be a pity to pick up a few more knocks to the more important players like Firmino, Can, Sakho etc against Norwich in a game that hardly matter in terms of a top 4 finish (as that ship has sailed)

OwaynOTT

WTF been going on?

OwaynOTT

WTF been going on?

klose

Dem double posts

5starpool

Harry Palmr wrote: »

With the second leg of the League Cup on Tuesday I wonder will Klopp field a slightly weakened/youthful side for Norwich? be a pity to pick up a few more knocks to the more important players like Firmino, Can, Sakho etc against Norwich in a game that hardly matter in terms of a top 4 finish (as that ship has sailed)

Ah no it's grand. Toby says we'll win the next 6, so we'll be back in it by then.

murpho999

Harry Palmr wrote: »

With the second leg of the League Cup on Tuesday I wonder will Klopp field a slightly weakened/youthful side for Norwich? be a pity to pick up a few more knocks to the more important players like Firmino, Can, Sakho etc against Norwich in a game that hardly matter in terms of a top 4 finish (as that ship has sailed)

I don't like this logic to be honest.

Professional footballers should be enthusiastic and more than capable of playing two games a week (which is all they do, it's hardly ever 3 a week as many say).

Worst was last season when Rodgers rested players in CL against Real Madrid for a league game against Chelsea. A shameful team selection that insulted the clubs reputation and also interrupted form and momentum. It was the beginniing of the end for me as far as Rodgers was concerned.

K-9

Klopp's regime requires a good squad of players though. The days of sure it's only 2 games a week is over.

The PL now is drastically different from even 10 years ago. Rafa knew then that you have to have a squad of 15/16 minimum and the work rate and athleticism even since then has sky rocketed.

Put it this way, the pressing and sprinting has gone up significantly from Rodgers time and we still aren't that close to Klopp's Dortmund days. The sane type of improvement is required again. To do that and cope with loads of games, high intensity training, inevitable injuries and drops in form, ideally you'd need a good squad of about 20 players.

Clyne as an extreme example has the most minutes played of any player in the top 5 European leagues, Moreno very high up as well. We should have cover there so that aren't expected to play 2 or 3 games in a week as it's asking for injuries. Can has played a lot too.

5starpool

Norwich have lost their last 4 games, so they must be delighted to be playing us next

J Mysterio

murpho999 wrote: »

Worst was last season when Rodgers rested players in CL against Real Madrid for a league game against Chelsea. A shameful team selection that insulted the clubs reputation and also interrupted form and momentum. It was the beginniing of the end for me as far as Rodgers was concerned.

While that's true, what's funny is that the team performed fairly well that night too.

Charlie19

Is there something up with boards?


There seems to be huge adds now on every page and its taking an age for the pages to load.

J Mysterio

K-9 wrote: »

Klopp's regime requires a good squad of players though. The days of sure it's only 2 games a week is over.

The PL now is drastically different from even 10 years ago. Rafa knew then that you have to have a squad of 15/16 minimum and the work rate and athleticism even since then has sky rocketed.

Plus he said 'squad' in a really funny way, which was always great.

K-9 wrote: »

Put it this way, the pressing and sprinting has gone up significantly from Rodgers time and we still aren't that close to Klopp's Dortmund days. The sane type of improvement is required again. To do that and cope with loads of games, high intensity training, inevitable injuries and drops in form, ideally you'd need a good squad of about 20 players.

Clyne as an extreme example has the most minutes played of any player in the top 5 European leagues, Moreno very high up as well. We should have cover there so that aren't expected to play 2 or 3 games in a week as it's asking for injuries. Can has played a lot too.

It's true we still need depth, which is amazing really when you consider the last 7/8 of Rodgers transfers seemed to be about just that.

I think Klopp will use the kids a fair bit now though. Teixera, Smith and Ojo all look good. Also, Flanno is back!

J Mysterio

Charlie19 wrote: »

Is there something up with boards?


There seems to be huge adds now on every page and its taking an age for the pages to load.

Boards has been ****ed for like 3 days

K-9

Harry Palmr wrote: »

With the second leg of the League Cup on Tuesday I wonder will Klopp field a slightly weakened/youthful side for Norwich? be a pity to pick up a few more knocks to the more important players like Firmino, Can, Sakho etc against Norwich in a game that hardly matter in terms of a top 4 finish (as that ship has sailed)

It most definitely has, 1 point out of 9 in January killed it, we were 2 points ahead of United in the last table I did at the end of the year.

Arsenal -
City - 2.5
Spurs - 6.5
United - 7
Liverpool - 13.5
Southampton - 15.5
Chelsea - 20.5

Spurs didn't do great either, lost 3 points which is basically the Leicester loss. Leicester still on 0 as well, the same result keeping them joint top.

About 70 points will get 4th based on this. For Leicester I think holding their own against the othe rest of the top 5 will be huge as the Spurs result showed. Get 3 or 4 points there and hold their own against the rest and they've a right chance.

Turtyturd

murpho999 wrote: »

I don't like this logic to be honest.

Professional footballers should be enthusiastic and more than capable of playing two games a week (which is all they do, it's hardly ever 3 a week as many say).

Worst was last season when Rodgers rested players in CL against Real Madrid for a league game against Chelsea. A shameful team selection that insulted the clubs reputation and also interrupted form and momentum. It was the beginniing of the end for me as far as Rodgers was concerned.

Wouldn't agree with resting anyone tomorrow but being enthusiastic and capable won't prevent them from picking up knocks.

And it's pure hyperbole to say that about the selection for the Madrid game. The team had been playing sh*te in the weeks before and people were crying out for the likes of Gerrard to be dropped. The shameful thing was that he restored the dropped players back to the first team the next game.

not yet

J Mysterio wrote: »

Boards has been ****ed for like 3 days

Unlike Sturridge who's been fcuked for 3 weeks months years or as I like to call it..forfcukingever.

rob316

My mystic ball says Sturridge is going to come back next month and fire us to the premier league title, nothing to worry about lads.