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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 15/16

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,044 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Why are you getting so far ahead of yourself ?


    You agree that 2013/14 was a good year and we can put a lot of that down to being able to focus on the league matches (and obviously Luis). I think most managers would like to work with a quality core, in the short term, and if relative success is achieved then you address that situation.

    What you have said about being 'the only really sustainable way to grow a club' is just wrong. It's better to be 'facing an onslaught of matches' rather than having an 'unfair advantage' (which is what i presume you meant). Again, this makes no sense.

    We all, as fans, have different opinions and are never going to agree all the time.

    I simply think that going in to preseason (this summer) without the problem of the Europa league would greatly benefit the club next season.

    If you want to be able to be successful as a club, sooner or later you have to face season after season after season of consistently rigorous schedules.

    What is the point in putting this period off?

    You specifically talked about getting to work consistently with this core group of players, shedding all the excess players, and achieving success on a short term basis like 13/14 - but what then? The next year you have to suddenly incorporate a whole bunch of new players into things, which can only end in disaster, as it did for us in 14/15.

    For the long term benefit of the club, it's much better to start addressing the larger squad right now, building a team thats capable of challenging on multiple fronts. With fewer games to play, this core group you speak of plays most of them, with the shedding of players cutting down the squad size as you talked about. But then we find ourselves ill equipped to go back up to dealing with more games again.

    The best way to deal with playing more games, is to be playing more games and keep adjusting the playing staff accordingly.

    With your final line, you're totally correct, it would benefit the club for next season, but that's all. It just puts off a problem, while also guaranteeing that the club has fewer opportunities to win silverware - which is what the club actually exists to do, lets not forget. On top of my other points, to actively prefer to not win silverware this season to bring about this one season of easier fixtures, also just makes no sense to me.

    Your approach puts off a problem. I would rather we solve that problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭54and56


    Dub13 wrote: »
    Please do tell me what's wrong with that..?

    The stronger the clubs finances the more can be invested to attract the very best players not that spending hundreds of millions of pounds on a squad of players is a guarantee of success, as Leicester are currently proving but in general, with the exception of outliers like Leicester, the more money you spend the better chance you have of success.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Je_suis_Jean, do you go over to games much..? if you do then you should be well aware of the good work the SOS do for match going fans. They are not going to apologize for having socialist views and nor should they, this is not 1950s America.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭Sundance_Kid


    I wonder why there is a branch of SOS in London, Norway and Sweden but none in Rep of Ireland? Could be an opening for you there Sundance :p

    There is a branch in ROI, they may not be too active but there already is a branch. Again you show your lack of knowledge on the subject.

    http://www.spiritofshankly.com/branches/8

    SOS are appreciated by the majority of regular matchgoers, the well informed LFC supporters around the world and those supporters that actually care about LFC and understand the genuine issues experienced by match going fans. So many people like yourself, just dont understand the issues on the ground.

    Based on either your naivety or ignorance, I am going to assume you think the Boycott of the Sun newspaper is stupid?


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    I'm certainly no socialist, but if all premier league clubs adopted a strategy of 70% of seats at £30 or less then football grounds would be a far better place in terms of atmosphere. Football clubs like to think they are at the heart of a community, but that is not the case any more at PL level in most cases, despite the lip service paid to it by clubs like Liverpool. It is all about money at every level, and with the reactionary nature of things these days with social media that is understandable in some respects, but it's not a good thing. Clubs weren't generous purveyors of good years ago, don't get me wrong, but it has gone too far now.

    Obviously the above is a pipe dream, but if more clubs held protests like last weekend rather than just marches that get a little publicity but nothing like what the LFC fans walkout got, then there might be a chance that collectively clubs might decide to do something. It's more of these things that are needed, not less. I don't agree with the whole 'charge locals less than people who travel' thing some have said either, I don't think that is what the protests are about either particularly.

    As I said, a pipe dream, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be a great thing to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭54and56


    Dub13 wrote: »
    Je_suis_Jean, do you go over to games much..? if you do then you should be well aware of the good work the SOS do for match going fans. They are not going to apologize for having socialist views and nor should they, this is not 1950s America.

    I do indeed Dub13 but not as much these days as I used to. Went to my first match in 1988 and used to go several times a year to both home and away matches (easier when I used to live in London) but back in Dublin a long time now and the last few years kids and the recession knocked the frequency on the head.

    I'm glad you agree SOS do in fact have a socialist agenda. I've no issue with their right to their political point of view and I'd stand side by side with them if necessary to defend their right to their opinion, regardless of the fact I disagree with it.

    I do object to ill informed (but in fairness pretty funny) posters claiming SOS do not have a socialist agenda and I also object to any organisation with a tiny number of members with no financial investment in the club claiming to know what's best for the club and that they will somehow hold the actual owners of the club to account somehow. This isn't 1917 Russia you know ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭54and56


    There is a branch in ROI, they may not be too active but there already is a branch. Again you show your lack of knowledge on the subject.
    Line, hook and sinker :p
    Based on either your naivety or ignorance, I am going to assume you think the Boycott of the Sun newspaper is stupid?
    I don't think it's stupid at all. I was living in London at the time of the Hillsborough disaster and rarely bought the Sun but once the boycott started I never ever bought it again and to this day won't buy it.

    Whilst I don't think Boycotting the Sun is stupid in any way I do thinks it's flawed and not as effective as it could be. The Sun is/was one part of News International/News Corp and I believe the boycott should have been of all News International/News Corp products including BSkyB. Boycotting the Sun alone is a bit like boycotting the fruit and veg section of M&S but continuing to buy M&S clothes, wine, meat, bread etc etc but if you want to watch LFC matches it's hard (but not that hard ;) ) to boycott Sky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,791 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    Difficult game tomorrow regardless of the side that Klopp decides on starting. I hope there is a couple more of the experienced lads in the lineup compared to the side that featured at Anfield.

    If all goes well, we should see Sturridge making an appearance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    Charlie19 wrote: »
    Difficult game tomorrow regardless of the side that Klopp decides on starting. I hope there is a couple more of the experienced lads in the lineup compared to the side that featured at Anfield.

    If all goes well, we should see Sturridge making an appearance.


    A game of football.........tomorrow you say? What has that got to do with socialism or the price of spuds, get back on topic:p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,791 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    sideswipe wrote: »
    A game of football.........tomorrow you say? What has that got to do with socialism or the price of spuds, get back on topic:p

    I don't go to enough games, so the price of chips in and around Anfield doesn't really make much difference to myself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    5starpool wrote: »
    I'm certainly no socialist, but if all premier league clubs adopted a strategy of 70% of seats at £30 or less then football grounds would be a far better place in terms of atmosphere. Football clubs like to think they are at the heart of a community, but that is not the case any more at PL level in most cases, despite the lip service paid to it by clubs like Liverpool. It is all about money at every level, and with the reactionary nature of things these days with social media that is understandable in some respects, but it's not a good thing. Clubs weren't generous purveyors of good years ago, don't get me wrong, but it has gone too far now.

    Obviously the above is a pipe dream, but if more clubs held protests like last weekend rather than just marches that get a little publicity but nothing like what the LFC fans walkout got, then there might be a chance that collectively clubs might decide to do something. It's more of these things that are needed, not less. I don't agree with the whole 'charge locals less than people who travel' thing some have said either, I don't think that is what the protests are about either particularly.

    As I said, a pipe dream, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be a great thing to happen.

    If supporters of all clubs could put their differences to one side and organise a unified campaign. Your suggestion could become a reality. Football wouldn't be the same without the supporters. An organised campaign of protest against the club's would work. The TV companies are buying into the passion of the English game aswell so it's in nobodies interest for crowds to decrease. The whole thing has gone too far average players are getting obscene money in England that they can't get elsewhere but if people look at it the club's aren't benefitting from paying stupid wages. The last 5 years has shown a visible decline in the performances of English clubs in Europe. Leicester to win the league with their no superstars and no massive wages would be great to see. Even spurs seem to have young hungry players with a point to prove. I think it's great that both these teams will get top 4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭garra


    Kloppo started away to Spurs, a creditable nil all away from home. On Saturday we watched the 28th game of his tenure. While we watched his boys lose a 2 goal lead, he lost his appendix and would have had a hernia if on the side-line for those last 10 minutes.

    The facts that we can conclude about his stewardship thus far are that a) He is a highly motivated, unconventional, charismatic and ebullient leader for our club, b) He has taken on a team of players lacking in all those characteristics, c) He cannot, at this moment in time at least, squeeze results out of these players, d) Perhaps he is trying too hard to impose his playing style on the fodder he has inherited rather than setting up to maximise what little he has, e) His preferred style of play is highly demanding in terms of energy and commitment, f) He will need a bumper summer transfer window; scouring this continent and others for the types of talent he needs to implement his philosophy.

    At this moment in time, I would be happy for him to start this trawl tomorrow morning. Get the scouts he needs, get the DOF he needs - if that's what he wants. Get him stalking and cajoling and tapping up the talent that he identifies with a Klopp team. Let him work with the young players at the club who can fit his philosophy and let him write off this season - I know I have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭54and56


    5starpool wrote: »
    I'm certainly no socialist, but if all premier league clubs adopted a strategy of 70% of seats at £30 or less then football grounds would be a far better place in terms of atmosphere.
    No doubt about it.
    5starpool wrote: »
    I don't agree with the whole 'charge locals less than people who travel' thing some have said either, I don't think that is what the protests are about either particularly.

    As I said, a pipe dream, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be a great thing to happen.
    Pipe dreams do happen. Jeremy Corbyn became leader of the Labour party and Leicester are favourites to win the league FFS!!!

    One downside of pricing tickets below what people are prepared to pay is that in doing so you create a much bigger market for scalpers to profit from the re-sale of £30 tickets. If someone is prepared to pay £60 or (heaven forbid) £77 for a ticket is is not better for the club to receive the full £77 than £30 go to the club and £47 to a scalper??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭54and56


    If supporters of all clubs could put their differences to one side and organise a unified campaign. Your suggestion could become a reality. Football wouldn't be the same without the supporters. An organised campaign of protest against the club's would work. The TV companies are buying into the passion of the English game aswell so it's in nobodies interest for crowds to decrease. The whole thing has gone too far average players are getting obscene money in England that they can't get elsewhere but if people look at it the club's aren't benefitting from paying stupid wages. The last 5 years has shown a visible decline in the performances of English clubs in Europe. Leicester to win the league with their no superstars and no massive wages would be great to see. Even spurs seem to have young hungry players with a point to prove. I think it's great that both these teams will get top 4.

    So much of what you say is true. I have constantly said that by hiking prices the owners may end up killing the goose that lays the golden egg. It's the passionate fans who create the atmosphere and if they are priced out of attending that atmosphere will be missing from televised games resulting in smaller audiences and potentially a downward spiral of the TV money.

    One of my own theories as to why so many big expensive signings fail is that they are indeed hungry for the big contract move whilst young and playing for smaller clubs but as soon as they get their move they have actually achieved their main professional goal and no longer have that same hunger. If my theory has any validity I'm not sure what the solution is. Don't spend big on players? Make players remuneration much more related to league position and cup success?


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    No doubt about it.

    Pipe dreams do happen. Jeremy Corbyn became leader of the Labour party and Leicester are favourites to win the league FFS!!!

    One downside of pricing tickets below what people are prepared to pay is that in doing so you create a much bigger market for scalpers to profit from the re-sale of £30 tickets. If someone is prepared to pay £60 or (heaven forbid) £77 for a ticket is is not better for the club to receive the full £77 than £30 go to the club and £47 to a scalper??

    I remember in the 13/14 season I went to 2 games near the end of the season (Spurs and Chelsea, although I went to 7 games in total that season) and if I was of a mind I could have got 4 figure sums for the Chelsea game anyhow, and possibly Spurs too. Scalpers are a scourge. The club are great at punishing people who give their cards to others (at face value) if caught, but can do nothing about scalpers who sell right outside the ground.

    Thomas Cook are the worst of the lot though, club sanctioned scalpers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    rob316 wrote: »
    How can SOS be taken seriously, they are looking for removal of categorization and 70% of the ground £30 or less. That would massively effect the clubs finances.

    Apparently dropping ticket revenues from £37 Million to 30 Million is reasonable. But they are being reasonable, they want it done over 5 or 6 years.

    Do they not cop, their perfectly reasonable comprise, makes the finances worse!

    You'd swear Liverpool was the only club getting the extra TV revenue, not all the others.

    A balance would be something like 40% of tickets cheaper, 40% frozen and 20% higher in what will be a modern stand with all the facilities that entails.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    SOS are a socialist organisation using LFC as a stage to broadcast their political agenda. They are a tiny but vocal collection of fans relative to the hundreds of millions of LFC fans world wide and only represent themselves.

    The irony of a socialist union dedicated to the advancement of a football club who are paying some of it's staff over £120,000 a week (Benteke and Milner apparently) and others a mere £330 a week is beyond funny. It's on a par with


    I think you must be the first person to use the politics card.

    SoS and the other groups just don't want to get ordinary, regular match going fans affordable tickets. They feel many people are getting priced out of it, PL matches are becoming an expensive family day out and many fans can't justify the cost any more with all the other crap in life.

    I do think they've asked for way too much, but the club will end up back tracking a fair bit from having no fan involvement at all.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭54and56


    K-9 wrote: »
    I think you must be the first person to use the politics card.
    Maybe I'm the first one to not ignore where their arguments are actually coming from. As I said previously, I've no issue that they have a socialist agenda but let's not pretend that they don't.
    K-9 wrote: »
    They feel many people are getting priced out of it, PL matches are becoming an expensive family day out and many fans can't justify the cost any more with all the other crap in life.
    Since when was attending Premier league football matches supposed to be an affordable family day out? A picnic in the park, a day at the beach or a visit to tax payer sponsored museums are affordable family days out. I brought my wife and two kids over to a game 3 years ago and with flights, hotel and tickets etc it cost almost €1,500. That's a lot of money which I'll probably never spend again but I wasn't under the illusion that it was supposed to be an affordable day out.

    I definitely agree with giving subsidised tickets to school kids as that's an investment in building the future local fan base and similarly having the option to buy a discounted "family ticket" for certain games which permits 2 adults and X kids to attend is a good idea for the same reason but I don't think making cheap family tickets available for all matches is going to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,564 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Think I might do up a match thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭54and56


    OwaynOTT wrote: »
    Think I might do up a match thread.

    Yeesssss, let's talk about football :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,367 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Since when was attending Premier league football matches supposed to be an affordable family day out? A picnic in the park, a day at the beach or a visit to tax payer sponsored museums are affordable family days out. I brought my wife and two kids over to a game 3 years ago and with flights, hotel and tickets etc it cost almost €1,500. That's a lot of money which I'll probably never spend again but I wasn't under the illusion that it was supposed to be an affordable day out.

    Bit different when you're in another country. Would a day at the beach in Spain or a trip to a tax sponsored museum in Berlin be an affordable day out? You still have to pay the flights, hotel and ground transportation for those also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    emmetkenny wrote: »

    "Goes out for the easter rising and ends up on a night out in Liverpool"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,564 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Yeesssss, let's talk about football :D

    Never mentioned talking about football. You have seen the match threads?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭54and56


    8-10 wrote: »
    Bit different when you're in another country. Would a day at the beach in Spain or a trip to a tax sponsored museum in Berlin be an affordable day out? You still have to pay the flights, hotel and ground transportation for those also.
    True but the tickets accounted for (from memory) about €250. Even if I was living next door to Anfield I wouldn't be making a family day out twice a month at that price!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    No doubt about it.

    Pipe dreams do happen. Jeremy Corbyn became leader of the Labour party and Leicester are favourites to win the league FFS!!!

    To be fair, both Labour and the league are a bit of a joke at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,800 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Apparently Rodgers has been offered three jobs in the Premier League since he left. I would say Villa and Swansea are definitely two. Maybe Chelsea as interim manager?

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rodgers-former-liverpool-fc-boss-10859391


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,800 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    In other news, it looks like Milan will not be taking us up on an option to buy Balotelli (no surprise there). Surely Klopp won't want him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭BullBlackNova


    In other news, it looks like Milan will not be taking us up on an option to buy Balotelli (no surprise there). Surely Klopp won't want him?

    Not a surprise there. I'd say the club will find it very difficult to get rid of him in the summer. Unless someone in China or the US takes a liking to him. Surely most clubs in Europe who could afford to pay his salary will deem him not worth the risk? And Balotelli himself will probably think he's above the level of say Palace or Swansea, who could now afford him with the TV money coming in and may be in the market for a striker.

    He'd be lucky to find a club as good as either to take a punt.

    --

    Bild linkng us with moves for Timo Horn and Jonas Hector today, both at FC Koln. Hector is a left-back and has played 10 times for Germany for anyone who hasn't heard of him (like me!!) Combined £20 million reportedly.

    Add to that the recent rumours that the Matip deal is done (again), and we could have a back 4 looking like this next season...

    Timo Horn
    Nathaniel Clyne -- Joel Matip -- Mamadou Sakho -- Jonas Hector

    If it comes with the relatively low outlay Bild have mentioned, we are doing quite well out of that.

    My patience for Sakho is running very thin at this point. I'd have no issue with the club spending £20m on Horn, Matip and Hector, and another £20m on a second CB.

    From there, I know we have several other issues in the squad but a genuine winger (Bellarabi, Schurrle, Salah, Mahrez, etc) and a pacy, pressing striker are the other major areas to target. Obviously that may change depending on outgoings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭mav79


    Not a surprise there. I'd say the club will find it very difficult to get rid of him in the summer. Unless someone in China or the US takes a liking to him. Surely most clubs in Europe who could afford to pay his salary will deem him not worth the risk? And Balotelli himself will probably think he's above the level of say Palace or Swansea, who could now afford him with the TV money coming in and may be in the market for a striker.

    He'd be lucky to find a club as good as either to take a punt.

    --

    Bild linkng us with moves for Timo Horn and Jonas Hector today, both at FC Koln. Hector is a left-back and has played 10 times for Germany for anyone who hasn't heard of him (like me!!) Combined £20 million reportedly.

    Add to that the recent rumours that the Matip deal is done (again), and we could have a back 4 looking like this next season...

    Timo Horn
    Nathaniel Clyne -- Joel Matip -- Mamadou Sakho -- Jonas Hector

    If it comes with the relatively low outlay Bild have mentioned, we are doing quite well out of that.

    My patience for Sakho is running very thin at this point. I'd have no issue with the club spending £20m on Horn, Matip and Hector, and another £20m on a second CB.

    From there, I know we have several other issues in the squad but a genuine winger (Bellarabi, Schurrle, Salah, Mahrez, etc) and a pacy, pressing striker are the other major areas to target. Obviously that may change depending on outgoings.

    Unless we sort out our soft centre midfield , I don't think it matters how much we spend on defenders


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,592 ✭✭✭brevity


    https://twitter.com/DejanLovrenLFC6/status/696783462796238848

    Liverpool fans in South Korea have been sending Lovren sweets...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,662 ✭✭✭Luckycharms_74


    Apparently Rodgers has been offered three jobs in the Premier League since he left. I would say Villa and Swansea are definitely two. Maybe Chelsea as interim manager?

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rodgers-former-liverpool-fc-boss-10859391

    It says 5 in the article :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,800 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    ^^ had five offers, only three were PL clubs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    A bit in the Echo on Kevin Stewart

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-kevin-stewarts-remarkable-10862182

    From Spurs fullback reject to DM starter with Liverpool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,296 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Dub13 wrote: »
    Please do tell me what's wrong with that..?

    Nothing wrong with it, it sounds great but its entirely unrealistic, its a huge drop in price in comparison to current prices. Liverpool will have more money from PL revenue but so will every other club, that money will be spent on even more obscene wages and transfer fees. We see it every year the average PL proven players are going for more and more money, it will just continue to rise. I don't actually see any other club getting richer, just everything inflated.

    FSG built a new stand to increase match day revenue, why bother building the stand if your going to give what you gain back in ticket cuts? We are streets behind Arsenal and Man United when it comes to match day revenue.

    As a business and that's exactly what it has become unfortunately it just doesn't make sense.

    Increasing prices was a bad move though, and ill advised.

    Me personally I think the club could put aside £10m a season for price cuts and better priced away tickets. £10m is only another ****e transfer, FSG could do an awful lot worse with their money than spend that for good PR and keep "the customers" happy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭JB81


    Would really like to see a stronger team out tonight than in Exeter replay, why not give it a go, as league is a washout as far as I am concerned. Use the league to blood youngsters and bring back injured players for part matches.
    I think he will start Sturridge.
    I really want Ward to start, but i don't think he will.
    Tex ( to make room for Firmino in centre ) and Ojo on wings
    Firmino pushing right up top with Sturridge
    I think we could potentially score a few goals to make up for the obvious defensive lapse(s) and win 4-2

    My team:
    Ward

    Clyne Caulker Sakho Smith

    Allen Brannagan

    Teixeira Ojo

    Firmino

    Sturridge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,800 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    I'd be starting Benteke and Sturridge. There won't be many chances to try these two together, so it's worth a crack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,280 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    brevity wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/DejanLovrenLFC6/status/696783462796238848

    Liverpool fans in South Korea have been sending Lovren sweets...

    A diabolically cunning plan to give him diabetes and keep him out of the team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,592 ✭✭✭brevity




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,296 ✭✭✭✭rob316




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  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    rob316 wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with it, it sounds great but its entirely unrealistic, its a huge drop in price in comparison to current prices. Liverpool will have more money from PL revenue but so will every other club, that money will be spent on even more obscene wages and transfer fees. We see it every year the average PL proven players are going for more and more money, it will just continue to rise. I don't actually see any other club getting richer, just everything inflated.

    FSG built a new stand to increase match day revenue, why bother building the stand if your going to give what you gain back in ticket cuts? We are streets behind Arsenal and Man United when it comes to match day revenue.

    As a business and that's exactly what it has become unfortunately it just doesn't make sense.

    Increasing prices was a bad move though, and ill advised.

    Me personally I think the club could put aside £10m a season for price cuts and better priced away tickets. £10m is only another ****e transfer, FSG could do an awful lot worse with their money than spend that for good PR and keep "the customers" happy.

    I think the thing with something like this is that is is a good starting point for negotiations. I don't think SOS actually think something like that is likely to come about, but if by having that as the starting point (assuming any and all fans organisations involved in any discussions were happy to accept that as a baseline request) then you might be able to reach a better compromise that fans can live with.

    If there was a similar price restructure but with no additional revenue for the club other than that generated by the extra seats themselves and the increased corporate/hospitality seating (which wasn't included in the pricing released) then that is probably a likely outcome that everyone can live with at least for a couple of seasons anyhow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,182 ✭✭✭Sappy404


    mav79 wrote: »
    Unless we sort out our soft centre midfield , I don't think it matters how much we spend on defenders

    Spot on. Our midfield neither ably protects the defence nor efficiently moves the ball (or the team) forward. They certainly aren't scoring goals. In particular, any combination of Milner and Lucas stagnates the whole team. After millions upon millions pumped into defence and striking options, I think the midfield is the one place we must spend and must not get wrong with our reinforcements this summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,931 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    http://https://twitter.com/CapitalOne_Cup/status/697058076780851200
    Michael Oliver has been appointed as the referee to the 2016 #CapitalOneCupFinal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Your views from those "£9" tickets next season

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Glico Man wrote: »
    A diabolically cunning plan to give him diabetes and keep him out of the team.

    Didn't stop Gary Mabbutt
    brevity wrote: »

    Bobby was always going to make fools of some people, possibly the same one who thinks Benteke is right for Liverpool....


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭JB81


    I'd be starting Benteke and Sturridge. There won't be many chances to try these two together, so it's worth a crack.

    I don't think Benteke is in Klopp's plans at all, and don't see him being here next season.
    I would be starting the two players who I think will be our starting forwards for the rest of the season and beyond ( pending Sturridge staying fit off course ).
    Get Firmino and Sturridge on the pitch together and see what they can do.
    Add Coutinho, and Ings/Origi as back-up and our attack looks a lot more balanced and tasty than it is at the moment.
    Then all we need is a keeper, at least 2 starting defenders ( Matip + 1 say ), a midfield general, and a goal scoring winger. Not too much to ask for....


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  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Your views from those "£9" tickets next season

    I've been sat directly behind the pillars in the main stand on a few occasions, including once when I was in the back row of the paddock with my knees pretty much right up against the pillar. Thankfully on that occasion the seat beside me was free so I could at least scoot around it. Restricted views a re a real pain.

    Those £9 seats are only that for around 3 games a season anyhow, an dare £36 for Cat A games, of which there are 6 a season. Great fun to have an entire section of the pitch out of bounds like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


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    Sturridge, Coutinho and Origi all travelling down to London. #lfc
    3:46 PM - 9 Feb 2016


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    From an article in the Guardian.
    There is a lengthy wait to acquire a disabled season ticket at Liverpool so, like many, I buy single tickets on a game-by-game basis. Over 19 Premier League games this season, comprising six category A games, 10 category B games and three category C games, the cost in the Main Stand lower is £640.50. Next season, the aggregate ticket price in the Main Stand lower for those tickets will be £1,000. That’s an increase of £359.50 – 56.13%.

    The Centenary isn't much less of a % increase, and the Kop and Anfield Road end go down and up by a small margin respectively.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,672 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Sappy404 wrote: »
    Spot on. Our midfield neither ably protects the defence nor efficiently moves the ball (or the team) forward. They certainly aren't scoring goals. In particular, any combination of Milner and Lucas stagnates the whole team. After millions upon millions pumped into defence and striking options, I think the midfield is the one place we must spend and must not get wrong with our reinforcements this summer.

    I just had a look at the 2001 winning team
    Murphy, gerrad , mcallister abd hanman in midfield


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Your views from those "£9" tickets next season

    Not bad for 9 squid?


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