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  • 10-01-2016 1:13pm
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    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Anyone here using bowl coring methods to save timber.

    And if so, what type are you using. Considering it myself, but seems to be an expensive initial set up.

    Comments welcome

    kadman


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  • Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭woodturner


    The initial cost is very expensive. I have the base from the Oneway coring system but have yet to get the knives for it. Should be getting one soon. If you like you can use mine when I get it.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    woodturner wrote: »
    The initial cost is very expensive. I have the base from the Oneway coring system but have yet to get the knives for it. Should be getting one soon. If you like you can use mine when I get it.


    Thanks very much for the offer woodturner.

    But I,d draw the line at borrowing other folks expensive bits of kit.
    I dont think its fair for a lot of reasons, could lead to many problems
    between friends. Thats why I,d be more inclined to have my own kit.

    I,ve looked at the oneway on the net, and it seems to be a good setup.
    Where did you source yours.

    I need a source too for a new scroll chuck. Interested to know what you are using out there.

    I have a record RP 2000 I think from way back. But it wont fit my centauro.

    kadman


  • Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭woodturner


    What thread is your spindle?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    woodturner wrote: »
    What thread is your spindle?

    Not too sure, and no word from the manufacturer.
    Kadman


  • Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭woodturner


    Let me know what model it is and I'll ask at the Chapter.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Its a Centauro TM 2000, this model here. It includes the outboard extension, that allows for
    42"+ turning.

    http://www.fordaqmachinery.com/wood/products/ViewProduct/Centauro_TM_2000__532.jspa


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    kadman wrote: »
    ...
    But I,d draw the line at borrowing other folks expensive bits of kit.
    I dont think its fair for a lot of reasons, could lead to many problems
    between friends. Thats why I,d be more inclined to have my own kit.
    ...kadman

    well said, its a pity its not more widely and clearly understood by the "asking" folk....

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    well said, its a pity its not more widely and clearly understood by the "asking" folk....

    I have a wide circle of woodworking friends, and i think its because i would never take advantage of them by asking for their hard earned tools.

    Of course some of those enemies I have , that I thought were my friends, never , ever, ever ,ever,ever, returned my tools, books,,,,,,,

    But yeah, your tools are a personal item, and deserved to be looked after by you

    :)
    kadman


  • Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭woodturner


    If you have a faceplate you might be able to determine the thread from it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭woodturner


    I tried to post a link to the Versachuck from The Toolpost in the UK. It comes with standard and off standard backplates and blank backplates that can be tapped to suit your lathe.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭rossit


    hi guy just wondering if ye guy know of any place in the southeast that sell woodturning tools.i`m looking for a faceplate but not sure how to get the right one .any advice would be appricated


  • Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭delaney001


    rossit wrote: »
    hi guy just wondering if ye guy know of any place in the southeast that sell woodturning tools.i`m looking for a faceplate but not sure how to get the right one .any advice would be appricated

    Ronaynes in thurles have a very good store. Carpentry store in naas have a huge amount of turning equipment. Not sure of any others.
    Done deal, adverts and turning-group-emails are a great job tho


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    I was hoping to buy a chuck that was a straight fit onto the existing.

    Bought a pitch guage, so should be able to measure it now:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭rossit


    thanks guys i measured the thread with a compass but when i got the face plate it was to small. the lathe is a old training center one no name on it just newman on the motor.im just busting to get going but ill no go without a faceplate. great thread im sure ye will be seeing me around


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,466 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Many of the lathes used in schools and other educational institutions in the 60's and 70's were English manufactured (Newman was an English motor manufacturer based in Yate near Bristol) such as the Harrison Union Graduate or Jubilee models. There's a great resource here http://www.lathes.co.uk/ all about lathes, and other machine tools, from that era, including Harrison http://www.lathes.co.uk/harrison/

    There probably isn't anything the owner of the site doesn't know about old lathes, so maybe email him a photo and see what he says.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,466 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Many of the lathes used in schools and other educational institutions in the 60's and 70's were English manufactured (Newman was an English motor manufacturer based in Yate near Bristol) such as the Harrison Union Graduate or Jubilee models. There's a great resource here http://www.lathes.co.uk/ all about lathes, and other machine tools, from that era, including Harrison http://www.lathes.co.uk/harrison/

    There probably isn't anything the owner of the site doesn't know about old lathes, so maybe email him a photo and see what he says.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭recipio


    rossit wrote: »
    thanks guys i measured the thread with a compass but when i got the face plate it was to small. the lathe is a old training center one no name on it just newman on the motor.im just busting to get going but ill no go without a faceplate. great thread im sure ye will be seeing me around

    You need to find the name of the lathe and then google for the thread size. Most of the info about old lathes in now online and chances are you will be able to order a faceplate online.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭rossit


    hope this shed some lightlathe.jpeg


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭rossit


    sorry its so small took me a while to figure out how to add a attachment


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭rossit


    got sorted guys thank let the fun begin


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  • Registered Users Posts: 563 ✭✭✭timfromtang


    kadman wrote: »
    Not too sure, and no word from the manufacturer.
    Kadman

    what thread is your spindle,, a lad might take that the wronng way if asked LOL,, seriously though tis either metric or imperial, and will have a thread pitch, threads per inch or metric (whatever them new fangled folk use threads per kilothingy i expect but anyway).

    a steel rule, and hold it against the threads parallel with the axis of the spindle, do they line up nicely in some round number or half number 7 1/2 tpi for example with inches? or indeed with mm? or cm on the metric side of the rule??
    next the diameter ,, is it a nice round number ,, in metric or imperial (careful here if measuring in thou look up your tables for thou equivalents of common fractions of an inch)
    Threads on lathe spindles come in a few common sizes.

    in short

    what thread is your spindle
    measure it!

    imho every turner should have a little machinists Zeus book either tucked in a top pocket or popped in a dry drawer somewhere, seriously handy tables in there, a great little ready reference...


    tim


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Just managed to check it today, after a long break from an injury.

    Thread is an M40 and with a pitch measurement of 4, using a German
    Metrish pitch guage. Fairly large thread.

    Measuring the thread grooves over an inch, 6 no. Peaks counting
    the starting point, 7 no.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,466 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Is it exactly 40mm outside diameter? That's pretty close to 1.5" and 1.5" 6tpi BSW is a thread commonly found on some older English lathes like Union and Wadkin.

    EDIT: just looked at your original post and see it's an Italian make, so unlikely to be an imperial thread. Can't see anything in M40 regardless of thread pitch in any of the well known chuck manufacturer's brochures.


  • Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭woodturner


    Peter Hemsley at the Toolpost said he could machine a backplate for m40 if that's the correct size. He said the backplates are very substantial and can be machined for that size thread


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    woodturner wrote: »
    Peter Hemsley at the Toolpost said he could machine a backplate for m40 if that's the correct size. He said the backplates are very substantial and can be machined for that size thread

    I know i could get a backplate machined. But I was hoping to buy
    a chuck off the shelf. As i already have 2 or 3 different lathe attachments
    that came with the machine.

    Yep its looking like the only option.


  • Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭delaney001




  • Registered Users Posts: 21,466 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    delaney001 wrote: »

    M40 refers to the model number of the jaws there I think.

    Here ...

    http://www.vicmarc.com/default.asp?contentID=686

    is a list of all their inserts, maximum metric size is M33.

    One interesting thing though is that they also show a "BLANK" insert in the list so presumably you could get one of these and get a friendly machinist to put any suitable thread you wanted on it.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    delaney001 wrote: »

    No.
    M40 here refers to the jaw size.


  • Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭woodturner


    kadman wrote:
    No. M40 here refers to the jaw size.


    Peter said the Oneway Stronghold chuck comes with that thread so there is no messing about with having to machine anything. Give him a call and he'll look after you. Got a bit of stuff from him over the years.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    woodturner wrote: »
    Peter said the Oneway Stronghold chuck comes with that thread so there is no messing about with having to machine anything. Give him a call and he'll look after you. Got a bit of stuff from him over the years.

    Nice one, who's Peter?:)

    Thanks


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