Irish army defence forces recruitment 2016

Danoboy93

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

What has that got to do with anything?

John said he spent 18 years wow ive a cousin still in over 20 years so ill listen to him thats wat bud

Danoboy93

John_D80 wrote: »

what's you're cousin got to do with you comparing you're knowledge of how patient you need to be with wha I know about the army??

Is your cousin the one who told you that the army are trying to see how patient ye all are by making ye wait years??

If so you need to stop listening to him.

Nope but he did say alot drop out after few weeks or months so.its basically saying they couldn't handle it

SSr0

Danoboy93 wrote: »

John said he spent 18 years wow ive a cousin still in over 20 years so ill listen to him thats wat bud

U r deadly mate lol

John_D80

Danoboy93 wrote: »

John said he spent 18 years wow ive a cousin still in over 20 years so ill listen to him thats wat bud

What you mean still in?

I'm still in also, not that it matters when I'm being compared to someone that is giving you such poor advice.

John_D80

Danoboy93 wrote: »

Nope but he did say alot drop out after few weeks or months so.its basically saying they couldn't handle it

Whats that got to do with the induction process ye are currently part and this supposition on your part that the army are testing yere patience?

Barry Badrinath

Danoboy93 wrote: »

John said he spent 18 years wow ive a cousin still in over 20 years so ill listen to him thats wat bud

My advice to you is to brush up on your comprehension skills, they are a very important part of the job you hope to be going into.

John currently has 18 years service, as do I.

You need to start communicating properly too, punctuation, proper spelling, etc. It will aid you during your training and your career. It is important to be precise and to get information across completely and properly. Unlike your posts here. Its advice, not an insult, I would take heed of it.

Having 20 years service does not mean he knows more, its what you have done that counts. To be honest, it sounds like he doesnt understand the DF at all.

Id be curious to know who he is, Im sure I know him. Anyway, if he is so knowledgeable (which he is obviously not) why are you not in training yet? And why have you not got all the answers?

Fionn789

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Dont bother travelling to Dublin to get answers. You wont get past the main gate.

All you people need to remember that the guys dealing with Recruitment have more than one job in the DF.

There is a constant changeover of staff due to postings, transfers, courses, overseas, leave, retirements, exercises and quadruple jobbing.

We dont have 50 people at the end of the phone waiting on your phone call, you are simply another job on a long list of other jobs that need to be done.

Not only this, the civilians in the Department of Defence and An Garda Siochana have to do their job in the recruitment process too. So, the DF have to wait for them to do their job before the DF can do theirs. They dont do them one at a time, it is in batches. So they will do a batch this week, a batch next week, a batch in a month, then send 5/6 batches the following month to another department for them to do their part of the process

There are a multitude of different stages your applications and offers need to go through. There is a lot going on in the background.

When you ring and get through, and are told to be patient or whatever, be patient. Your application may still be with another department waiting on someone else to do their job and is out of the DF's hands.

The DF also have to wait for the DoD to approve a date for a Recruit Platoon to start. They have to wait on confirmation of how many Recruits they can induct. Then the DF figure out what location need the Recruits or what location has enough training staff to facilitate a Recruit Platoon. Then a date can be set depending on DoD approval. Then you get an offer depending on whatever selection system they use.

Now, you fcukers would want to calm your tits. Dont start badgering the Recruitment staff and being hard men on a discussion site talking bollox.

You are frustrated, they acknowledge that. Its mostly out of the Recruitments staffs hands as they are the last to know dates. Thats why you wont always get a definitive answer.

If you are on a list, just wait out. Your time will come but winding each other up and threatening this and that here is futile.

If you really want an answer, talk to your local TD or submit a FOI request. Not an ideal way to potentially start your career but you will get an answer.

For those of you that do get in, lose the attitude or you wont last training.

Best of luck.

All the information you gave me there I found out myself there the last two days. They df could have told me this and it would be grand but no I was left in the dark people have a right to know the status of a application I don't have a attitude I just want to get in the door

Danoboy93

The reason guys you cant get through to athlone today or most barracks is theres a funeral all head officers are at the funeral and most of the staff.just.found out there

John_D80

Danoboy93 wrote: »

The reason guys you cant get through to athlone today or most barracks is theres a funeral all head officers are at the funeral and most of the staff.just.found out there

Seriously. Just stop.

Barry Badrinath

Fionn789 wrote: »

All the information you gave me there I found out myself there the last two days. They df could have told me this and it would be grand but no I was left in the dark people have a right to know the status of a application I don't have a attitude I just want to get in the door

That post was pegged for general attention, not specifically to you.

They do not have time to explain every stage in the process and who all the stakeholders are to every caller....its not personal, its just not possible.

They cant always tell you what stage your application is at as they dont always have that information. Thats why you rarely get a detailed answer.

They are not there to hold your hand and reassure you. You are on a list, you will be called or you wont be called. You are not guaranteed an offer and you are not guaranteed a definate start date.

You, like everyone else are waiting until the DoD says 'take in Recruits'.

I know its frustrating but thats they way it is. However, I do hope you are not waiting much longer but wait you must.

There is an old saying in the DF - "We are just mushrooms"....why? Because we are kept in the dark and fed with sh1t.

Hang in there.

Floody1997

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Fionn789 wrote: »

Been ringing this morning and they won't pick up if the don't answer today I'm going to Dublin tomorrow to get answers

Dont bother travelling to Dublin to get answers. You wont get past the main gate.

All you people need to remember that the guys dealing with Recruitment have more than one job in the DF.

There is a constant changeover of staff due to postings, transfers, courses, overseas, leave, retirements, exercises and quadruple jobbing.

We dont have 50 people at the end of the phone waiting on your phone call, you are simply another job on a long list of other jobs that need to be done.

Not only this, the civilians in the Department of Defence and An Garda Siochana have to do their job in the recruitment process too. So, the DF have to wait for them to do their job before the DF can do theirs. They dont do them one at a time, it is in batches. So they will do a batch this week, a batch next week, a batch in a month, then send 5/6 batches the following month to another department for them to do their part of the process

There are a multitude of different stages your applications and offers need to go through. There is a lot going on in the background.

When you ring and get through, and are told to be patient or whatever, be patient. Your application may still be with another department waiting on someone else to do their job and is out of the DF's hands.

The DF also have to wait for the DoD to approve a date for a Recruit Platoon to start. They have to wait on confirmation of how many Recruits they can induct. Then the DF figure out what location need the Recruits or what location has enough training staff to facilitate a Recruit Platoon. Then a date can be set depending on DoD approval. Then you get an offer depending on whatever selection system they use.

Now, you fcukers would want to calm your tits. Dont start badgering the Recruitment staff and being hard men on a discussion site talking bollox.

You are frustrated, they acknowledge that. Its mostly out of the Recruitments staffs hands as they are the last to know dates. Thats why you wont always get a definitive answer.

If you are on a list, just wait out. Your time will come but winding each other up and threatening this and that here is futile.

If you really want an answer, talk to your local TD or submit a FOI request. Not an ideal way to potentially start your career but you will get an answer.

For those of you that do get in, lose the attitude or you wont last training.

Best of luck.

You have to understand where we're coming from lad. I've nothing to prove and far from a self proclaimed "hard man" but when lads that have applied this year get a preference over lads that have put the graft in and waited this long then I think they deserve to get a bit emotional, albeit ringing up constantly or getting a bit vocal on this forum. Either way you know and I know that this wait has been unusually long so of course lads will be getting frustrated. Sounds like you know your **** though and I like that. Better than most of the info I've heard on this forum

Danoboy93

John_D80 wrote: »

Seriously. Just stop.

I was just on.the.phone there big man whats your email ill send u it to shut you.up

SSr0

Danoboy93 wrote: »

I was just on.the.phone there big man whats your email ill send u it to shut you.up

You do realise that he trains recruits and that it wouldn't be hard to get your real name/age from your username, should you be lucky enough to get in to his section/platoon.

John_D80

Danoboy93 wrote: »

I was just on.the.phone there big man whats your email ill send u it to shut you.up

You just posted that guys cant get through to MOST barracks today because of a funeral.

This is not true. More disinformation you are posting.

There maybe a funeral somewhere today but unless its a state affair its not the cause of phones not being answered in MOST barracks across the country.

I do not need you to email me anything.

Barry Badrinath

Floody1997 wrote: »

You have to understand where we're coming from lad. I've nothing to prove and far from a self proclaimed "hard man" but when lads that have applied this year get a preference over lads that have put the graft in and waited this long then I think they deserve to get a bit emotional, albeit ringing up constantly or getting a bit vocal on this forum. Either way you know and I know that this wait has been unusually long so of course lads will be getting frustrated. Sounds like you know your **** though and I like that. Better than most of the info I've heard on this forum

I would be hessitant to say thay 2017 applicants are being prioritised over 2016 applicants. I see from here that it is happening, the reason why, I have no idea.

It honestly could be as simple as all names on the list are sorted alphabetically by surname. It could be that the DoD want 2017 applicamts in first so it looks good for their yearly statistics. It could also be done by age bracket or geographical location or even gender. The apicatioms could be held up in another department for any amount of reasons, hell, someome might have misplaced or lost the application.

It could be a lot of things.

However, I guarantee that the Recruitment staff are not doing it for the craic or to piss 2016 applicants off.

I sympathise with you, I really do. I was in the same boat myself in 1998/1999 but I waited and now I am hitting my 18th year.

Hold out.

Danoboy93

John_D80 wrote: »

You just posted that guys cant get through to MOST barracks today because of a funeral.

This is not true. More disinformation you are posting.

There maybe a funeral somewhere today but unless its a state affair its not the cause of phones not being answered in MOST barracks across the country.

I do not need you to email me anything.

Yet athlone wouldn't ring I had to ring curragh to get through to athlone and the man in athlone said theres a funeral thats why phones off the hook so ok bud

Danoboy93

SSr0 wrote: »

You do realise that he trains recruits and that it wouldn't be hard to get your real name/age from your username, should you be lucky enough to get in to his section/platoon.

Cool story bro

John_D80

SSr0 wrote: »

You do realise that he trains recruits and that it wouldn't be hard to get your real name/age from your username, should you be lucky enough to get in to his section/platoon.

Its a small army as the saying goes. And Athlone is not a huge barracks either!

I should know! ;-)

SSr0

John_D80 wrote: »

Its a small army as the saying goes. And Athlone is not a huge barracks either!

I should know! ;-)

Fingers crossed here anyway...

KazzieLou

John. Would you ever just stop running your mouth, I have checked up the young lads post and I got an officer who told me the exact same thing to ring back Monday due to circumstances of a funeral, so now I believe who is telling the truth and who's just on this running there mouth. If you train in platoons should you of not known this today then finding out for ourselves I'll gladly give anyone the number to ring back and hear the same awnsers. Now take a chill pill and relax and give your mouth a rest. After all you do train don't you.

John_D80

Danoboy93 wrote: »

Yet athlone wouldn't ring I had to ring curragh to get through to athlone and the man in athlone said theres a funeral thats why phones off the hook so ok bud

Sorry but that still doesn't account for MOST of the barracks as you said.

Galway, Cork, Limerick, Kilkenny, Finner, The Brugha, McKee?

Are they all at this funeral as well?

Danoboy93

John_D80 wrote: »

Sorry but that still doesn't account for MOST of the barracks as you said.

Galway, Cork, Limerick, Kilkenny, Finner, The Brugha, McKee?

Are they all at this funeral as well?

I dont know but the man said most high officers and recruits are away from most barracks because of the funeral so ye ok

John_D80

KazzieLou wrote: »

John. Would you ever just stop running your mouth, I have checked up the young lads post and I got an officer who told me the exact same thing to ring back Monday due to circumstances of a funeral, so now I believe who is telling the truth and who's just on this running there mouth. If you train in platoons should you of not known this today then finding out for ourselves I'll gladly give anyone the number to ring back and hear the same awnsers. Now take a chill pill and relax and give your mouth a rest. After all you do train don't you.

He clearly said MOST of the barracks in the country. This is what I pulled him up on because its just not true.

So much disinformation being peddled in this thread and when people who actually know what they are talking about try to offer ye advice its time put on the blinkers and ear muffs.

Barry Badrinath

Danoboy93 wrote: »

I was just on.the.phone there big man whats your email ill send u it to shut you.up

Taking into account your posts on this thread, I can honestly say that you are not the type of person we want in the DF.

If you are this dismissive, abrasive and disrespectful in real life, you will have a hard time in the DF.

I would not be happy to have you in my Platoon in any function on any overseas mission. We need critical thinkers who are not out for needless confrontation. You would be a liability.

It wont be hard to find out who you are by your posts here, name, location, DOB. It would be a shame for your application to disapear.

LOL big man, LOL :pac: LOL

KazzieLou

John_D80 wrote: »

He clearly said MOST of the barracks in the country. This is what I pulled him up on because its just not true.

So much disinformation being peddled in this thread and when people who actually know what they are talking about try to offer ye advice its time put on the blinkers and ear muffs.

But hold on I thought your in the army? Are you not you just stated you were.

Danoboy93

John_D80 wrote: »

He clearly said MOST of the barracks in the country. This is what I pulled him up on because its just not true.

So much disinformation being peddled in this thread and when people who actually know what they are talking about try to offer ye advice its time put on the blinkers and ear muffs.

Then if thats the case explain how people who are calling other barracks cant get through some dont ring others ring out because noones available because of the funeral

SSr0

John_D80 wrote: »

He clearly said MOST of the barracks in the country. This is what I pulled him up on because its just not true.

So much disinformation being peddled in this thread and when people who actually know what they are talking about try to offer ye advice its time put on the blinkers and ear muffs.

Fair play to you for trying to set a few people here straight, but it's clear that you're wasting your time.

The civvies know better sure.

Danoboy93

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Taking into account your posts on this thread, I can honestly say that you are not the type of person we want in the DF.

If you are this dismissive, abrasive and disrespectful in real life, you will have a hard time in the DF.

I would not be happy to have you in my Platoon in any function on any overseas mission. We need critical thinkers who are not out for needless confrontation. You would be a liability.

It wont be hard to find out who you are by your posts here, name, location, DOB. It would be a shame for your application to disapear.

LOL big man, LOL :pac: LOL

Ok.cool bro far from a big man I know what I was told on the phone bud

Floody1997

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Danoboy93 wrote: »

I was just on.the.phone there big man whats your email ill send u it to shut you.up

Taking into account your posts on this thread, I can honestly say that you are not the type of person we want in the DF.

If you are this dismissive, abrasive and disrespectful in real life, you will have a hard time in the DF.

I would not be happy to have you in my Platoon in any function on any overseas mission. We need critical thinkers who are not out for needless confrontation. You would be a liability.

It wont be hard to find out who you are by your posts here, name, location, DOB. It would be a shame for your application to disapear.

LOL big man, LOL :pac: LOL

Take me instead boys I just want to start training hahaha

John_D80

Danoboy93 wrote: »

Then if thats the case explain how people who are calling other barracks cant get through some dont ring others ring out because noones available because of the funeral

Well I was on the phones to manpower offices throughout the DF at various times this morning and had no problem speaking with anyone.

Also if a phone in the DF isn't answered on a Friday, its not always because of a funeral.

Barry Badrinath

Danoboy93 wrote: »

Ok.cool bro far from a big man I know what I was told on the phone bud

Im not talking about your information.

Im talking about your attitude.

Danoboy93

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Im not talking about your information.

Im talking about your attitude.

Ye I have a attitude on this after waiting nearly 2 years ill be calm and patient wjen im in man im just saying theres loads lads put up they cant get through to.other barracks either

Danoboy93

John_D80 wrote: »

Well I was on the phones to manpower offices throughout the DF at various times this morning and had no problem speaking with anyone.

Also if a phone in the DF isn't answered on a Friday, its not always because of a funeral.

So all the lads on this are liars because they cant but you can get through ok buddy see ya sir

Barry Badrinath

Danoboy93 wrote: »

Ye I have a attitude on this after waiting nearly 2 years ill be calm and patient wjen im in man im just saying theres loads lads put up they cant get through to.other barracks either

I dont think you will. You have already displayed your actions while under a small bit of pressure.

Best of luck.

Danoboy93

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

I dont think you will. You have already displayed your actions while under a small bit of pressure.

Best of luck.

Bye bud

John_D80

Floody1997 wrote: »

Take me instead boys I just want to start training hahaha

Hmmm, lets evaluate your performance on this thread over the last few pages an see how you got on.

- observes quietly
- knows when to keep his fúcking mouth shut and pay attention to people who know what they are talking about.
- waits for an enemy/rival to expose a weakness and/or make himself look bad.
- goes in for the kill at the right time.


You'll do well.

Barry Badrinath

Danoboy93 wrote: »

So all the lads on this are liars because they cant but you can get through ok buddy see ya sir

I was in the Barracks this morning. There are people around.

I have no idea who died, no word went around my Barracks. Also, the national flag was not at half mast so maybe it was not a DF member or State dignitary that died. It could have been a family member of a serving soldier.

If that was the case, only the local Barracks personnel would really go so not all Barracks would be empty.

Its also very possible the person on the end of the phone used a "funeral" as an excuse to get you off the phone.They are busy wrapping stuff up for the weekend.

Either way, people are in work and they are busy or people may be at a funeral.

Ricketcricket

keego1798 wrote: »

haha I hear they sign u up straight away

In fairness they'd probably give their applicants more information haha

Barry Badrinath

Danoboy93 wrote: »

Bye bud

Point proved. Thanks

Danoboy93

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Point proved. Thanks

Your in the army yet you have been commenting the last hour proves my point sir

John_D80

Danoboy93 wrote: »

So all the lads on this are liars because they cant but you can get through ok buddy see ya sir

All of what lads?

Your the only one saying that most barracks are closed down today even though you freely admitted you only tried to ring one.

You are lying. Never said anyone else was.

Half the problem in this thread is people peddling/believing rumours that they cant confirm. Ye are all jumping to so many conclusions when ye really dont know what is going AT ALL.

Its **** they way ye are being treated but if you wanna join the Army, get used to it.

Before I ever posted in this thread I'd already given advice by PM to a few people who have posted on this thread in the past but I'm not gonna bother my hole anymore when my service, experience and knowledge is basically being insulted by people who aren't even recruits yet!!

Barry Badrinath

Danoboy93 wrote: »

Your in the army yet you have been commenting the last hour proves my point sir

Im resting off a 24hr duty.

Hence, I WAS in the Barracks this morning. Im now home.

Is that ok with you chief?

What was your point that I proved?

Danoboy93

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Im resting off a 24hr duty.

Hence, I WAS in the Barracks this morning. Im now home.

Is that ok with you chief?

What was your point that I proved?

Lad why you even commenting on this for exactly

Ricketcricket

Lads

keego1798

Danoboy93 wrote: »

Lad why you even commenting on this for exactly

mate ..... for the lord jaysus sake...... would u let it be

Danoboy93

Ricketcricket wrote: »

Lads I'm thinking of starting a closed Facebook group for all of us applying and waiting, maybe if we see each others initials and where roughly we are living it will give us a better grasp of where they are in the selection process, would anyone be up for joining it so I know whether it'd be a waste of time? Once I start it I'll post a link on this here, let me know anyway whether to bother

Ye lad I dont mind joining two of my mates waiting will join aswel

Daniel.Smith

Ricketcricket wrote: »

Lads I'm thinking of starting a closed Facebook group for all of us applying and waiting, maybe if we see each others initials and where roughly we are living it will give us a better grasp of where they are in the selection process, would anyone be up for joining it so I know whether it'd be a waste of time? Once I start it I'll post a link on this here, let me know anyway whether to bother

Might not be a bad idea lad

Danoboy93

keego1798 wrote: »

mate ..... for the lord jaysus sake...... would u let it be

Just making a point lad

Barry Badrinath

Danoboy93 wrote: »

Lad why you even commenting on this for exactly

Because there was too much sh1t being flung by people who are not qualified to fling it.

Serving members started posting to give you a brief idea of what is likely to be going on.

These serving members have experience and knowledge of the Recruitment process and of training Recruit Platoons.

It is to add balance to the discussion and to reassure the quieter lurkers of whats going on behind the scenes.

It was not to engage in tit for tat witj someone who refuses to accept what he is being told by people far more knowledgable.

Thats why.

Ricketcricket

Right that'll do, once I'm out of work I'll get it sorted and post a link in here, maybe if everyone wasn't using aliases there wouldn't be as much bitching on it aswell haha