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Generic Dreadhead

jonnycivic wrote: »

So I have completed the story in BL2 for the 2nd time and started out on UVHM......... why oh why did I do this... Im getting my ass handed to me now haha

UVHM is kind of kicking our butts too (or at least it was till Cal got us a levelled up Unkept Harold), it's much harder than TVHM. Especially if you're playing a Psycho.

You should look at joining Randoms or having randoms join you by messing about in the main menu. Might make life a lot easier since you're in a group.

I mean if you manage to catch up with us 3 you can join in, we're level 57 now.

The whole thing about UVHM is your gun levels need to be really close to your actual level. You can't really be lvl 53 and using lvl 49 weapons unless it's an excellent exotic (like the one I duped for you The Conference Call)

Like, you'll notice that if you have 2 guns of the same type with 1 level difference, the newer one is like 1.5x the damage.

Gun @ 50 = 20k damage
Gun @ 51 = 30k damage
Gun @ 52 = 45K damage

And so on, I would just use like 1 or 2 golden keys as soon as you level up.
Also look into someway of regaining health

gimli2112 wrote: »

I've started a third character for some reason

I was there for this, you were drunk

gimli2112

Cormac... wrote: »

I was there for this, you were drunk

I know, thanks for the levelling up and the gunzerker rant.

Kimbot

Cormac... wrote: »

UVHM is kind of kicking our butts too (or at least it was till Cal got us a levelled up Unkept Harold), it's much harder than TVHM. Especially if you're playing a Psycho.

You should look at joining Randoms or having randoms join you by messing about in the main menu. Might make life a lot easier since you're in a group.

I mean if you manage to catch up with us 3 you can join in, we're level 57 now.

The whole thing about UVHM is your gun levels need to be really close to your actual level. You can't really be lvl 53 and using lvl 49 weapons unless it's an excellent exotic (like the one I duped for you The Conference Call)

Like, you'll notice that if you have 2 guns of the same type with 1 level difference, the newer one is like 1.5x the damage.

Gun @ 50 = 20k damage
Gun @ 51 = 30k damage
Gun @ 52 = 45K damage

And so on, I would just use like 1 or 2 golden keys as soon as you level up.
Also look into someway of regaining health

Yeah everything I have is level 50 bar the slag gun you done for me. I got an Orange Grenade and Shield from the Warrior

I will join in on a randoms game and see how I get on later on

Generic Dreadhead

gimli2112 wrote: »

I know, thanks for the levelling up and the gunzerker rant.

This is going to become one of those things.

"Hey, cool, you started playing, welcome to Borderland.... now I'm not saying Gunzerkers are bad..... but I'll now go on a 2 hour rant about the abundance of Gunzerkers"

Was playing with Johnny at some stage, him as a Psycho, me as an Assassin. We had no health regen. We missed a Siren pretty badly. Heck even an ole turret thrower would have been nice

gimli2112

jonnycivic wrote: »

Yeah everything I have is level 50 bar the slag gun you done for me. I got an Orange Grenade and Shield from the Warrior

I will join in on a randoms game and see how I get on later on

99% of them seem to be fighting terramorphus. I played a good bit with randoms - community is pretty helpful. It's generally Americans as that's the time I tend to play.

Generic Dreadhead

Oh, and in UVHM, you can't NOT slag stuff.

Get Slag grenades with a low fuse time or some decent Slag Weapons (like the Slagga pity the one I duped you is still lvl41 so won't do much damage themselves.) and use them. Or look into getting some class specific Slag Perks

It's the main thing I realised. Likewoise you can get by 1-30 without using Electricity weapons, but 30-50 you need to use them.

Kimbot

Cormac... wrote: »

Oh, and in UVHM, you can't NOT slag stuff.

Get Slag grenades with a low fuse time or some decent Slag Weapons (like the Slagga pity the one I duped you is still lvl41 so won't do much damage themselves.) and use them. Or look into getting some class specific Slag Perks

It's the main thing I realised. Likewoise you can get by 1-30 without using Electricity weapons, but 30-50 you need to use them.

Yeah slagging is very important, I have a couple of nice level 50 weapons. I just need sanctuary back so I can hit the chest haha

nevelator

SolvableKnave wrote: »

Tactics wise, it's more Original Splinter Cell than anything else.

The game itself is just beautifully executed.

Finished TLOU over the weekend...really well put-together game. Avoiding spoilers for all this time was well worth it. Also played the DLC which fitted in perfectly with the story.
Next up, is to finish Fallout 4.

gimli2112

Have a level 70 gunzerker in UVHM and never knew you couldn't slag enemies. Can I drop my dual wield slag pistol?

Sorry misread your post. Double negative confused me.

Generic Dreadhead

Worst part of UVHM is trying to keep your shield the same level as you so you end up using rubbish shields you wouldn't have used otherwise :rolleyes:

gimli2112

nevelator wrote: »

Finished TLOU over the weekend...really well put-together game. Avoiding spoilers for all this time was well worth it. Also played the DLC which fitted in perfectly with the story.
Next up, is to finish Fallout 4.

Completed TLOU myself and just started a + game. It's well worth while trying it on the hardest difficulty setting once. It's actually quite stressful. You're overjoyed when you find a piece of cloth or 1/2 a scissors.

Generic Dreadhead

nevelator wrote: »

Next up, is to finish Fallout 4.

Depends on how you define "finish"

I got really fed up with Act 2 after enjoying Acxt 1. Sold the game so I wouldn't be tempted to buy the Season Pass (plus was still worth €40 at the time, so I got my moneys worth).

Now I can just wait till all 6 current (maybe more in future) DLC packs and re-buy it if I like.

Enjoying having to f**k around with the super cr@ppy UI that is the Pip boy :pac: Destiny will ruin UIs for you.
Here's a catchphrase you'll find yourself saying
"Why can't I compare gear properly?"

Still a fun game, but I could not be f**ked with getting Platnium etc.
Plus I don't get the whole "build a settlement" thing.
Would rather play the Sims or Stronghold or something for the kind of thing

Oh, and don't bother trying to be a Jack of All trades type player
Pick 1 main gan type and sink all them precious points into it. I went with "Commando" or "Marksman" or something.
And then went all in with Gun Nut and Armourer and Science so I could build awesome Weapon and Armour mods.
That made things a lot more fun

nocal

You are at a really difficult point in the game jonnycivic for a psycho. But you are only a few levels away from being able to re-spec him and make him a more viable option again. I can not remember where, but it is somewhere in the 50's. You can have a fairly awesome build by level 61.

For all characters, you hit difficult points and you hit points where you need to re-set your skill tree as you now have enough skill points to get a better build.

For UVHM you will need to pay attention to weapons and shields and ensure you are regularly farming the top tier items for your character. Check out the BL2 official forums for some good advice on the best weapons and builds if you have not already done so.

UVHM will hand your ass to you - but if you approach it right you can overcome it.

Or just create another gunzerker for the easy mode run through of it. Cormac loves gunzerkers and I would hate to see him have to live in a world with one less gunzerker.

Generic Dreadhead

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1

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Every second, over 4 thousand players start a Borderlands 2 playthrough as a Gunzerker

*Clicks Fingers*

By the time you finish listening to this advert another 45 thousand Gunzerkers will have been created.

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And only 6 Sirens

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Please give what you can to "In need of Sirens"

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Before it's too late

Louder, more dramatic finger click, black screen

Kimbot

nocal wrote: »

You are at a really difficult point in the game jonnycivic for a psycho. But you are only a few levels away from being able to re-spec him and make him a more viable option again. I can not remember where, but it is somewhere in the 50's. You can have a fairly awesome build by level 61.

For all characters, you hit difficult points and you hit points where you need to re-set your skill tree as you now have enough skill points to get a better build.

For UVHM you will need to pay attention to weapons and shields and ensure you are regularly farming the top tier items for your character. Check out the BL2 official forums for some good advice on the best weapons and builds if you have not already done so.

UVHM will hand your ass to you - but if you approach it right you can overcome it.

Or just create another gunzerker for the easy mode run through of it. Cormac loves gunzerkers and I would hate to see him have to live in a world with one less gunzerker.

Yeah on my first run it was takingforever to kill anything and I respecced my stats now and it was more bareable to play then but as it was getting late I just turned off and went to bed so I will see if I can progress anymore later on before I join others I'm determined to get through this solo again tho. On this play through I will be farming for the good weapons tho :P

nocal

jonnycivic wrote: »

Yeah on my first run it was takingforever to kill anything and I respecced my stats now and it was more bareable to play then but as it was getting late I just turned off and went to bed so I will see if I can progress anymore later on before I join others I'm determined to get through this solo again tho. On this play through I will be farming for the good weapons tho :P

Krieg is definitely the hardest to get through UVHM solo with.

I used to always do the Torgue DLC early on - tokens can be farmed and unkempt harolds can be bought. I can drop you a few to help out if you need.

Kimbot

nocal wrote: »

Krieg is definitely the hardest to get through UVHM solo with.

I used to always do the Torgue DLC early on - tokens can be farmed and unkempt harolds can be bought. I can drop you a few to help out if you need.

I must actually try the DLC out now and see how it plays for me. I have about 140 torque token thingys i think at the moment and never really used them before tbh.

gimli2112

I have a ton of OP stuff that people dropped me. Where do I go to get OP?

Generic Dreadhead

nocal wrote: »

Krieg is definitely the hardest to get through UVHM solo with.

I used to always do the Torgue DLC early on - tokens can be farmed and unkempt harolds can be bought. I can drop you a few to help out if you need.

Can Confirm, Unkept Harold is Bae (look at me internetting)

Best 4 guns of the game (if I had to create a dream load out)

Level 25 Dobby Lyudmila
Level 41 Aggressive Slagga
Level 50 Conference Call
Level 56 Unkept Harold

Honerable mention for the Nutralising Hornet that got me through the end of the Oasis DLC.

It's like when you're a kid making your best 11 players on a copy book

jonnycivic wrote: »

I must actually try the DLC out now and see how it plays for me. I have about 140 torque token thingys i think at the moment and never really used them before tbh.

You can actually go back into TVHM and far them there instead of doing the Torque DLC on UVHM.

Theres' like 5 missions that have Tier 3s that are repeatable

Kimbot

Cormac... wrote: »

Can Confirm, Unkept Harold is Bae (look at me internetting)

Best 4 guns of the game (if I had to create a dream load out)

Level 25 Dobby Lyudmila
Level 41 Aggressive Slagga
Level 50 Conference Call
Level 56 Unkept Harold

Honerable mention for the Nutralising Hornet that got me through the end of the Oasis DLC.

It's like when you're a kid making your best 11 players on a copy book

I have the slagga and the Conf Call. What I might do is get myself up to level with you guys, then create my new players..... Siren and Gunzerker are my next 2 players

Kimbot

Cormac... wrote: »

You can actually go back into TVHM and far them there instead of doing the Torque DLC on UVHM.

Theres' like 5 missions that have Tier 3s that are repeatable

How do I go back to TVHM?? I was looking for that last night as I wanted to do a few more things in there last night before UHVM.

nocal

gimli2112 wrote: »

I have a ton of OP stuff that people dropped me. Where do I go to get OP?

When you hit 72, each time you run the raid on digistruct peak you go up an op level. First 4 levels are easy. You will have to gear up at OP5 and OP7 as a minimum to be able to get through them. Also, bring a team.

gimli2112

jonnycivic wrote: »

How do I go back to TVHM?? I was looking for that last night as I wanted to do a few more things in there last night before UHVM.

When selecting the character with triangle there should be an option

nocal

jonnycivic wrote: »

How do I go back to TVHM?? I was looking for that last night as I wanted to do a few more things in there last night before UHVM.

Hit triangle, reload character, select TVHM when you select play.

nevelator

gimli2112 wrote: »

Completed TLOU myself and just started a + game. It's well worth while trying it on the hardest difficulty setting once. It's actually quite stressful. You're overjoyed when you find a piece of cloth or 1/2 a scissors.

Don't think that I could handle grounded - but might try it on survivor. I used the listening...a lot, so it'll be interesting to see how I get on without it.

Cormac... wrote: »

Depends on how you define "finish"

Finish the main game will do me...for now. Still have GTA 5, AC Black flag, and Far cry 4 to play.

gimli2112

nevelator wrote: »

Don't think that I could handle grounded - but might try it on survivor. I used the listening...a lot, so it'll be interesting to see how I get on without it.

I played the hardest mode on the PS3 (I think) but if they added in a harder mode in the remastered version I don't think I did it. Whatever mode it was there were points I was thinking "Why am I doing this to myself"

sniper_samurai

gimli2112 wrote: »

I played the hardest mode on the PS3 (I think) but if they added in a harder mode in the remastered version I don't think I did it. Whatever mode it was there were points I was thinking "Why am I doing this to myself"

Grounded isn't actually much harder than Survivor. Helps to know the glitches for infinite scissors/duct tape and to bring all your upgrades into your run if you are having problems.

Hardest part of the game on Grounded was probably

the financial district in Pittsburgh

.

Mitch Connor

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Grounded isn't actually much harder than Survivor. Helps to know the glitches for infinite scissors/duct tape and to bring all your upgrades into your run if you are having problems.

Hardest part of the game on Grounded was probably

the financial district in Pittsburgh

.

"Not that hard, helps if you cheat."

Cool story.

sniper_samurai

Mitch Connor wrote: »

"Not that hard, helps if you cheat."

Cool story.

It isn't hard outside of managing your resources. Those glitches aren't magic either, having a maxed character will make it easier but not by much. By the time you play Grounded not having listen mode isn't much of a handicap either as you should have knowledge of patrol routes etc from your previous runs.

Generic Dreadhead

Mitch Connor wrote: »

"Not that hard, helps if you cheat."

Cool story.

What with our recent BL2 antics I think we have relinquished our ability to look down on others for cheating