Trials of Osiris

PhlegmyMoses

Back to Destiny after an extended absence and by God I was woeful. Will have to do a bit of practicing to get my eye in for the sniper rifles. Barely scraped 7 wins to get the gold package and the rewards but we got hockeyed by a couple of teams.

PhlegmyMoses

Cormac... wrote: »

I've gotten 2 more DoP, one has Rangefinder, is that better than Rodeo?

I have what I consider to be a God roll DoP adept, which has persistence, braced frame and Rangefinder. Stability is almost maxed and coupled with persistence and Rangefinder, it's a beast.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Anyone up for a run at the lighthouse? I have all my bounties done, wan't to attempt a few serious runs.

AbusesToilets

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Anyone up for a run at the lighthouse? I have all my bounties done, wan't to attempt a few serious runs.

I would be happy to blue orb for you

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Does anyone know how to build up your ELO?

I've checked Destiny Tracker and it states, you gain ELO from winning a game.

Most of the Crucible games I've had in the last month or so have been either Trials or Rumble, I'd normally come at least in the top 3 of Rumble, but I've been working on building my K/D ratio as opposed to winning.
(Winning in Rumble usually goes to the person with the most kills, regardless of how many deaths they have).

Generic Dreadhead

You have a different ELO for each mode AFAIK.

And from what I've seen of it before, you can only raise your ELO significantly by beating players who have a higher ELO than you.

Might be wrong on that.
I get different ELO ratings from Destiny Tracker and Trials Report and Guardian.gg

AdamD

Just use guardian.gg which FYI reset their ELO ratings after the new patch so pre patch was season 1 and now we're in season 2.

Its quite simple. Everyone starts off at 1200. Your elo goes up for wins and down for losses, the amount up or down it goes varies depending on the ELO of your opponents, its all done purely on your teams average.

So if your team average is 1300 and you beat a team with average of 1700 it'll go up significantly and there's will take a big hit. If you're a 1500 team and beat an 1100 team you'll barely notice the increase.

Its done by game mode too. The cheesey way to boost it is to play with 2 players who have a much lower ELO than you, that way your team average is low and you'll get big boosts for a win but small decreases for a loss. Most of the guys at the top are there because of 'double carries', even if they're losing quite a few games.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Ah right, so K/D ratio has nothing really to do with it? I've been playing Rumble as a way to build up my MLG skills for Trials and I have got better but chasing a higher score in Rumble tends to get you killed a lot, whereas I would try to go for higher K/D ratio.

Maybe elimination or some 3v3 would be better as at least you have a better chance of outright winning the game.

AdamD

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Ah right, so K/D ratio has nothing really to do with it? I've been playing Rumble as a way to build up my MLG skills for Trials and I have got better but chasing a higher score in Rumble tends to get you killed a lot, whereas I would try to go for higher K/D ratio.

Maybe elimination or some 3v3 would be better as at least you have a better chance of outright winning the game.

So you're that guy :mad:

AdamD wrote: »

People in Rumble annoy me, greatly.

We can both see eachother on radar, you keep pushing away, why? Its a kill race. Stop avoiding gun fights, you're making yourself lose.

ELO is purely based on wins, nothing else comes into it. If you start a new season and play 10 games in a row with the same team mates you'll all have the same ELO.

Generic Dreadhead

AdamD wrote: »

So you're that guy :mad:

Yeah, the guy playing Rumble, trying to get better at the game. How DARE he? :mad:

AdamD

Cormac... wrote: »

Yeah, the guy playing Rumble, trying to get better at the game improve his KD. How DARE he? :mad:

FYP

Generic Dreadhead

AdamD wrote: »

FYP

Actually, word for word his exact post said this:

Rumble as a way to build up my MLG skills for Trials and I have got better but chasing a higher score in Rumble tends to get you killed a lot,

You're just seeing what you want to see

AdamD

Cormac... wrote: »

Actually, word for word his exact post said this:



You're just seeing what you want to see

No you are, read the next 9 words after what you've bolded.

Generic Dreadhead

AdamD wrote: »

No you are, read the next 9 words after what you've bolded.

Jesus, he's dying a lot in Rumble. Big deal.

So who is allowed played rumble so?

AdamD

Cormac... wrote: »

Jesus, he's dying a lot in Rumble. Big deal.

So who is allowed played rumble so?

Hes not actually, that was the point. Playing for KD rather than the win. I'm out anyway, this is going absolutely nowhere and I'm sure we have utterly different views on PvP.

Generic Dreadhead

Ok, I realise now you meant these 9 words

whereas I would try to go for higher K/D ratio.

As opposed to these 9 words

in Rumble tends to get you killed a lot,

Happy to leave it there too regardless

Hail 2 Da Chimp

AdamD wrote: »

So you're that guy :mad:

Yes and no, I think there's a tipping point in Rumble, where at the end of the game, people are happy to kill trade to gain points. I don't share that view.

I've played a lot of games of Rumble where:
the top guy gets 20 kills and 18 deaths.
I'll get say, 19 kills and 10 deaths.

That's where I think Rumble is broken, you shouldn't be able to constantly kill trade and win.

To be clear, I'm not crouched, camping with a shorty, running away from engagements. I'm aggressively sniping as much as possible.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

AdamD wrote: »

ELO is purely based on wins, nothing else comes into it. If you start a new season and play 10 games in a row with the same team mates you'll all have the same ELO.

So that's why you see fire teams farming Elimination to raise their ELO? Because it's easier to get lots of fast and easy wins.

AdamD

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

So that's why you see fire teams farming Elimination to raise their ELO? Because it's easier to get lots of fast and easy wins.

That'll only give you elimination ELO, which nobody typically looks at. Trials ELO is the one people tend to talk about, which is only affected by Trials matches.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Anyone fancy Elimination tonight?
I'm gonna try to get in as much Elimination as possible today & tomorrow. I'll actually be online at about 6 on Friday so I'm looking to make a decent run at the Lighthouse.

Anyone interested?

AbusesToilets

I'd give it a shout if I'm on

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Made out like a bandit this week - to guns with beast rolls:

Doctrine of Passing:
Persistence.
Braced Frame.
Hidden Hand.

The Inward Lamp:
Full Auto.
Small Bore.
Hidden Hand.

Finally managed to get the Doctrine of Passing, no to piss everyone off in the Crucible. here come the tea-bags!

SolvableKnave

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

The Inward Lamp:
Full Auto.
Small Bore.
Hidden Hand.

Mine rolled Full Auto / Small Bore / Zen Moment.
It's a bit of a b!tch to handle.

PetKing

SolvableKnave wrote:

It's a bit of a b!tch to handle.

Agree 100%, no amount of rolls make this weapon stable enough to use. I have full auto, outlaw, and something else. Gave it a whirl recently at Golgoroth and quite enjoyed hitting the thralls with it, bit that's all.

Generic Dreadhead

It's not a good scout rifle at all, regardless of the roll.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Funnily enough - I tried it out in PvP and didn't like it.

I kept hearing about The Inward Lamp and was hyped when I basically got a god roll but when I tried it out I found it was pretty hard to get kills with...

Haven't had a chance to take the Doctrine out for a spin yet but I'm looking forward to wrecking with it!

SolvableKnave

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Funnily enough - I tried it out in PvP and didn't like it.

I kept hearing about The Inward Lamp and was hyped when I basically got a god roll but when I tried it out I found it was pretty hard to get kills with...

Haven't had a chance to take the Doctrine out for a spin yet but I'm looking forward to wrecking with it!

Yeah, the Doctor of Passion is my next target. Hopefully on tonight and see if I can get a bounty run going.

AdamD

Legendary scouts are all muck really

Generic Dreadhead

AdamD wrote: »

Legendary scouts are all muck really

I've a Suros one with 100% stability, Target acquisition scope and full auto. It's a beast. Only down side is it's the High RoF archetype. Still viable though.

It was the one from the MTashed videos a while back I think.

End Game wise, I don't rate the ones you get as Strike Specifics, Raid, Trials and IB.

Only good ones are Gunsmith ones and if you get lucky with a God-Tier random roll on a Vanguard or Strike drop

AdamD

Still skeptical that they're truly viable if you don't want to play at a disadvantage.

Mitch Connor

1vs1 with a scout is never a good idea, not close.

Hanging back with a Jade Rabbit or Scout from that type (Colovance) and taking out people from distance suits me so Scouts are my main weapon (then pulse rifle). In fast paced 3vs3 modes, wouldn't want to be relying on hitting 3 headshots close in, quick.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Well I 1v1'd against Mida a few times and lost, so I really don't think it's viable against Mida.
I'd actually prefer my Colovances Duty to The Inward Lamp, as I really can't get my hear around Mida.

Mitch Connor

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Well I 1v1'd against Mida a few times and lost, so I really don't think it's viable against Mida.
I'd actually prefer my Colovances Duty to The Inward Lamp, as I really can't get my hear around Mida.

Yeah, Mida and a Super'd Taloc are exceptions to the general viability of scouts, imo.

Generic Dreadhead

The Taloc is very hard to hit headshots with. It's got a tiny hitbox thingy

https://twitter.com/Bungie/status/731160830507520000

Bungie announcing the banhammer having been dropped.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Deleted User wrote: »

Bungie announcing the banhammer having been dropped.

So that's why I've been losing so often and so consistently in Trials...

AdamD

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

So that's why I've been losing so often and so consistently in Trials...

:pac:

OptimusTractor

No trials this week lads. Issues surrounding clown cartridge on rocket launchers.

Generic Dreadhead

Good, we'll see even more top-tier sweaty players in Doubles so.

Ugh.......

Mitch Connor

Cormac... wrote: »

Good, we'll see even more top-tier sweaty players in Doubles so.

Ugh.......

I won't #sh1tyELO

AdamD

Apparently:

Snapshot is now the new intrinsic perk for adept trials weapons

Ooooh I'm ready

Hail 2 Da Chimp

AdamD wrote: »

Apparently:



Ooooh I'm ready

That's a great perk / reward for an adept weapon but god damn I'm going to be salty when I'm sniped / get the jump on someone and am killed :pac:

Edit: Salty as there's no way I'll be getting an adept weapon

Generic Dreadhead

Anyone doing Trials this weekend?

Mitch Connor

Cormac... wrote: »

Anyone doing Trials this weekend?

Yeah, from about 11 tonight if there is any interest in dragging my weight. Probably some tomorrow and Sunday evening (if not raiding)

Really want to give trials a go this season. Thinking warlock will be my main here.

PetKing

Trials is interesting. Year 2 weapons and armour dropping from the gold packages. Got year 3 armour on the 5 wins. Assuming the new weapons on the 7. I can still grind for my Doctor

Mitch Connor

Played this last night - matches were one sided one way or the other every time. won the first two 5-0. lost the next two 5-0. won the next 5-0, then lost 5-0 then lost 5-1. Got a new card and finished off the bounties with a 5-1 win.

Got crappy boots and a crappy helmet from the run.

Mickeroo

Didn't get near the xbox until last night so only got one good run all weekend. 7 wins before the mercy was used but then we lost three in a row. 369 arms, two boots(367 & 369 I think) and a 368 shotgun so not a bad haul at all.

Kimbot

So first game of Trials last night, expecting to get to play against same skill type players, first match they had approx 300 flawless between them, all 380+ with a range of 390 primaries, we got kicked around.
Second match, same again. We then got put in with people around our levels and we kicked ass but only got 4 wins, got the year 2 helm out of my gold package so was happy with that

Kimbot

So just to expand on the above here are the stats from my card last night, it was me, JCD and Rossi playing.

First Game: LOSS (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1845)
Second Game: LOSS (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1184)
Third Game: LOSS (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1584)
Fourth Game: WIN (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1144)
Fifth Game: WIN (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1033)
Sixth Game: WIN (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 975)
Seventh Game: LOSS (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1297)

So overall it shows that when we get matches against similar skill level we can hold our own. Bungie would want to sort the matchmaking out though in fairness because going in on your first game and getting nuked just turns people away from the game mode.

gimli2112

Played some Trials this weekend. Can't remember how it went but think I rage quitted after three games. Could never get into trials.