General MMA Chat/News mk2

Zero-Cool

Class pic of JK reffing a Neil Seery match. Says 2008 but looks more 98

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/768170813451214848

brinty

Lads only saw the fights today
Was in hospitals all weekend
Rumble is one of the humblest guys on the UFC
To stop mid sentence and berated a crowd for booing DC... that's one guy who's got class written all over him.
Sometimes I don't get UFC crowds,DC seems pretty humble too and he gets booed not stop... why... cos he has the title jbj never lost... the guy who's a drug cheating a**hole... who's p155ed more chances up against the wall

That_Guy

http://www.ufc.ie/

Zero-Cool

Rory MacDonald just signed with Bellator, hope he gets a quick title shot and wrecks house!

http://www.flocombat.com/article/45513-breaking-rory-macdonald-signs-with-bellator

That_Guy

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Rory MacDonald just signed with Bellator, hope he gets a quick title shot and wrecks house!

http://www.flocombat.com/article/45513-breaking-rory-macdonald-signs-with-bellator

That is one hell of a coup. I hope he gets paid big.

martyos121

Sad to see him go but I think Bellator got him at the tail end of his career. That fight with Robbie Lawler took something serious out of him that I'm not sure he'll ever get back. Hearing him talk about his fight with Wonderboy makes me think he'll never be the same fighter again.

Hope he makes a boatload of cash though, he really deserves it.

martyos121

Rousey definitely not fighting on the NYC card in November, according to Dana:

http://mmajunkie.com/2016/08/will-ronda-rousey-return-at-ufc-205-in-new-york-city-definitely-not-dana-white-says

John_D80

martyos121 wrote: »

Sad to see him go but I think Bellator got him at the tail end of his career.

I know he has a fair few tough fights behind him but isn't he only 25 ot 26 or something??

mailburner

I'd have put a lot of money on rory being future champ, so close but yet so far and probably a good time to go

purely by coincidence i watched his second fight v condit earlier, at 20yrs of age he owned condit for two rounds which was incredible
great fight for anyone who hasn't seen it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYX4tg3elRI

mailburner

martyos121 wrote: »

That fight with Robbie Lawler took something serious out of him that I'm not sure he'll ever get back. Hearing him talk about his fight with Wonderboy makes me think he'll never be the same fighter again.

Hope he makes a boatload of cash though, he really deserves it.

I think you might be right and he'll never beat the likes of wonderboy (not now anyway)

John_D80 wrote: »

I know he has a fair few tough fights behind him but isn't he only 25 ot 26 or something??

only 27 and might well have been top 5 in the division for another 4/5yrs without getting the belt
I feel myself if he wasn't waiting around so long for gsp to vacate the belt he might have been champ

ricero

Reports today that GSP is to return at ufc 206 in Toronto in December


http://www.lowkickmma.com/UFC/report-georges-st-pierre-to-return-at-ufc-206/

Wrongway1985

martyos121 wrote: »

Sad to see him go but I think Bellator got him at the tail end of his career. That fight with Robbie Lawler took something serious out of him that I'm not sure he'll ever get back. Hearing him talk about his fight with Wonderboy makes me think he'll never be the same fighter again.

Hope he makes a boatload of cash though, he really deserves it.

Massively disagree on the notion his career is on the wind down, of course the last 2 fights have him well off the pace for a title shot even though he holds wins over Maia and the current champ. Guys like Wonderboy,Condit/Maia,Cowboy (I know only just cracking top 15 but is a bigger name than a lot in between which we know can certainly lead to jumping the queue) and even a returning Nick Diaz have certainly pushed Rory well out of discussion for a title fight.

However the man is 27! That's nearly 20 years younger than Dan Henderson who fights for the title next month!...And more to the point younger than EVERY current champ in EVERY division!

He just recently became a father not long after the Wonderboy bout there was some stuff when he was interviewed he talked about like being more serious when it came to finances, he was never flustered over money and never really cared as long as he had enough to get by sort of thing but having a child put things into perspective a bit more and realized hang on I'm not getting paid enough sort of job.

I'd say his head was all over the place going into the last fight got that sort of vibe off him when he spoke on the MMA about testing free agency.

Go make some nice $$$ with Bellator instead of waiting for imminent rematches to get back to title contention sit that out. Attempt to get the Bellator strap in 1-2 fights against fresh competition...And hopefully down the line see him back in the UFC by the time he hits 30.

mdwexford

Surprised Rory is going to Bellator.

Wonder what kind of money is on offer.
Must be very big to leave the UFC, bad career move so must be a huge financial increase.

ASOT

mdwexford wrote: »

Surprised Rory is going to Bellator.

Wonder what kind of money is on offer.
Must be very big to leave the UFC, bad career move so must be a huge financial increase.

Its the best move for his family anyway, gent of a man delighted he's getting what he deserves.

mdwexford

ASOT wrote: »

Its the best move for his family anyway, gent of a man delighted he's getting what he deserves.

Yeah financial security is even more important when you start having kids.

Always been a big fan, disappointed I won't be able to see him in the UFC anymore.

Didn't think the new owners would be letting talent like him leave.

ASOT

mdwexford wrote: »

Yeah financial security is even more important when you start having kids.

Always been a big fan, disappointed I won't be able to see him in the UFC anymore.

Didn't think the new owners would be letting talent like him leave.

Exactly, got look after number one first. It will be out soon how much he's gotten, it must have been a lot anyway because the UFC wouldn't match it!!

Wrongway1985

mdwexford wrote: »

Surprised Rory is going to Bellator.

Wonder what kind of money is on offer.
Must be very big to leave the UFC, bad career move so must be a huge financial increase.

Since when did making more money for the same role but for a different company in any job become a bad career move

Bad career move for you, best move for the man himself

Paully D

mdwexford wrote: »

Surprised Rory is going to Bellator.

Wonder what kind of money is on offer.
Must be very big to leave the UFC, bad career move so must be a huge financial increase.

He got less than $60,000 for his war with Lawler.

Even if Bellator were to double that it's not a huge chunk for them for a real next level type signing and that would be a massive difference for Rory himself.

SureYWouldntYa

Imagine if he held out for one more round against Lawler, or finished him in the 3rd

He'll probably get more money in the short to medium term, long term if he became the champ at 170 he'd have been raking it in

ASOT

Paully D wrote: »

He got less than $60,000 for his war with Lawler.

Even if Bellator were to double that it's not a huge chunk for them for a real next level type signing and that would be a massive difference for Rory himself.

I'd say its 300k minimum. Paul Daley is looking to fight him, that would be a good scrap.

mdwexford

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Since when did making more money for the same role but for a different company in any job become a bad career move

Bad career move for you, best move for the man himself

Going from the biggest organisation in the world with loads of viewers and the best fighters in the world etc to a much lesser organisation is a bad career move.

Even if he wins the Bellator title it's nothing compared to the UFC belt.
He won't have the respect or legacy if he never returns to the UFC.

I have already said its a good financial move.
I'm not saying he's taken the wrong option here.

Paully D wrote: »

He got less than $60,000 for his war with Lawler.

Even if Bellator were to double that it's not a huge chunk for them for a real next level type signing and that would be a massive difference for Rory himself.

It's the minimum I'd expect him to leave for.

Possibly a signing fee and then being able to get sponsorships as well.

Subcomandante Marcos

I've heard that Rory's deal with Bellator dwarfs Meatheads and will make more per fight than Askern is at OneFC as Base pay alone as well as giving him the ability to use his own personal sponsorships.

No brainer for Rory. 6 fight deal with Bellator, he'll finish it by 30/31 and then he can see the lay of the land.

Like strikeforce a few years back Bellator will eventually become a legitimate competitor with the UFC in terms of attracting talent but unlike strikeforce they have a company worth tens of billions behind them.

I honestly can't believe that UFC are letting him go Didn't he come to Ireland last time UFC came to Ireland to meet the fans? I remember he did a skit with Owen Calgan (buzz from hardy bucks)

Wrongway1985

mdwexford wrote: »

Going from the biggest organisation in the world with loads of viewers and the best fighters in the world etc to a much lesser organisation is a bad career move.

Doesn't matter how many more viewers the UFC have it doesn't directly affect the fighters pay sadly.

Less viewers, more money so who cares. Rory might never be a UFC champion but will easily walk into Bellator as the main attraction an even bigger deal than Benson Henderson who is widely regarded by the masses as having an unlikable personality and is a boring fighter to top it off despite getting his hands on the LW belt he'll most likely be remembered as the guy who got hit with the showtime kick.

mdwexford wrote: »

Even if he wins the Bellator title it's nothing compared to the UFC belt.
He won't have the respect or legacy if he never returns to the UFC.

The same UFC belt he failed to get his hands on when he got the shot? There's no guarantee he would ever become champ and the route became longer by losing to Wonderboy. He'd most likely need 2 fights to get back into contention so a shot could come when 2 years time?

As regards legacy, pretty sure his spirit in the Lawler fight cemented that. However no title won and apparently not a guy for the UFC to match Bellator's offer for. Stick with the UFC even though they don't value him as much as the rival or leave...No brainer

Deleted User wrote: »

I honestly can't believe that UFC are letting him go Didn't he come to Ireland last time UFC came to Ireland to meet the fans? I remember he did a skit with Owen Calgan (buzz from hardy bucks)

Ya sent as a guest fighter,he has some Irish roots too

ASOT

There's also no guarantee Rory wins the bellator belt either Koreshkov is a beast, he put an absolute beat down on Benson

scudzilla

would Bellator ever come and do an event here? would it be financially viable?

Wrongway1985

scudzilla wrote: »

would Bellator ever come and do an event here? would it be financially viable?

I think the London event prices were well...UFC prices doubt they'd get away with that here

Zero-Cool

Quick work from UFC. On the bright side, Gunni is top 10 now.

https://twitter.com/MMAHEAT/status/768537532774559744

Paully D

scudzilla wrote: »

would Bellator ever come and do an event here? would it be financially viable?

If Gallagher racks up another win or two I definitely think they'll look into it.

Lukker-

UFC replacing McDonald with CM Punk.