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    #4142
    JoeyJJ
    Registered Users Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭JoeyJJ


    al iaquinta isn't going to be fighting any time soon by the looks of it, pity i liked him.

    http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/al-iaquinta-explains-why-hes-not-competing-in-his-dream-fight-at-ufc-205-091916


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    #4143
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    JoeyJJ wrote: »
    al iaquinta isn't going to be fighting any time soon by the looks of it, pity i liked him.

    http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/al-iaquinta-explains-why-hes-not-competing-in-his-dream-fight-at-ufc-205-091916

    Crazy that someone going into their 10th fight is only getting $26,000


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    #4144
    theteal
    Registered Users Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    Mr. Manager wrote: »
    Crazy that someone going into their 10th fight is only getting $26,000

    They want top quality professional fighters but pay them peanuts. . .and then take their sponsorship away. Makes perfect sense!


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    #4145
    JoeyJJ
    Registered Users Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭JoeyJJ


    And a top 15 guy, who is a decent watch when fighting, always comes to fight.


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    #4146
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    JoeyJJ wrote: »
    And a top 15 guy, who is a decent watch when fighting, always comes to fight.

    This! It's not like he's boring or anything. I really enjoyed him in TUF and his career afterwards. Rated him very highly


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    #4147
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,198 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    More and more fighters are going to be jumping ship. Both Rockhold & Weidman have come out and said they're not being paid enough recently.

    It will be a small process, but I think Bellator will be getting stronger and stronger over the next few years. Sure they have the Bendos & Rory's of the world, but once the prospects like Iaquinta, Duffy etc. start refusing new contracts and going over the Bellator, then they'll really start to become players!


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    #4148
    [Deleted User]
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    More and more fighters are going to be jumping ship. Both Rockhold & Weidman have come out and said they're not being paid enough recently.

    It will be a small process, but I think Bellator will be getting stronger and stronger over the next few years. Sure they have the Bendos & Rory's of the world, but once the prospects like Iaquinta, Duffy etc. start refusing new contracts and going over the Bellator, then they'll really start to become players!

    It's up to fans to go with them too. Lots of fans are only into UFC. At Bellator in London it was barely half full, even with MVP and Paul Daley on the card.

    Nothing will change while the money is rolling in. Price rises, loyalty programs ending, less fightclub perks, tickets sold with zero events. It's all about the $$$$


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    #4149
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Mr. Manager wrote: »
    Crazy that someone going into their 10th fight is only getting $26,000

    Absolutely, and crazy also to think that Nate was only paid $20,000 for fighting Johnson in December (which I think was around his 20th UFC fight?).

    He got the same amount as a win bonus on top of that but still crazy low for a fighter that has fought that much for the company.

    I know he lost a hefty chunk of those fights but still and all.

    RDA hurting his foot seems to have been the best thing to happen to Nate Diaz.


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    #4150
    TimRiggins
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    https://twitter.com/allelbows/status/777935032908263424

    Northcutt on Mickey Gall

    OH MY GOD SHOTS FIRED!!


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    #4151
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    It feels to me like it's getting ever closer to some sort of fighter strike or similar. More and more are starting to speak out about unhappy with their conditions.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if something happens within the next 12 months.


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    #4152
    [Deleted User]
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    Paully D wrote: »
    It feels to me like it's getting ever closer to some sort of fighter strike or similar. More and more are starting to speak out about unhappy with their conditions.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if something happens within the next 12 months.

    definitely going to happen. Will take the right person to convince them all to raise their hand though. Shocking that they banned Al Iaquinta from receiving bonuses for 3 fights because he went to the beach when he was sick.


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    #4153
    Deadst4r
    Registered Users Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Deadst4r


    Not sure if this is UFC news but..



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    #4154
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Paddy Pimblett is pretty average on The MMA Hour IMO. He (understandably) seems very nervous.

    It was a great opportunity to make himself know to the American audience and get them intrigued, the vast majority of who won't know who he is, but I don't think any of them will be scrambling to see his first UFC fight. There are clearly a couple of rehearsed lines too (e.g. "he says he came to take over, I'm here to conquer".)

    There has been lots of comparisons to McGregor but compare that to McGregor's first appearance with Ariel and it's levels apart.


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    #4155
    TimRiggins
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    Paully D wrote: »
    It feels to me like it's getting ever closer to some sort of fighter strike or similar. More and more are starting to speak out about unhappy with their conditions.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if something happens within the next 12 months.

    Yeah it seems very week now its happening. More and more stories of fighters struggling to make ends meat.

    The Reebok deal did really f*ck them over big time. It's scandalous.


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    #4156
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Ah come on Paddy.

    Ariel has given him a great opportunity here, asking him who he wants for his debut and what's the dream scenario. The worst possible answer you can give here is "anyone, I don't care" or similar, which is exactly what Pimblett says.


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    #4157
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Journalists snooping on here for stories :)

    https://twitter.com/IsMiseDaniel/status/777797489302839296


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    #4158
    theteal
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    I just cannot take to Pimblett - saw his last 2 fights, he just strikes me as a Scouse Jay from the Inbetweeners. Not a chance the Yanks can understand what he's saying either!


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    #4159
    finglashoop
    Registered Users Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    Paully D wrote: »
    Journalists snooping on here for stories :)

    https://twitter.com/IsMiseDaniel/status/777797489302839296

    Ha.


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    #4160
    dashoonage
    Registered Users Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    Paully D wrote: »
    Journalists snooping on here for stories :)

    https://twitter.com/IsMiseDaniel/status/777797489302839296

    We could have some fun with this lads...

    Might Mouse vs Bones to headline 205.


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    #4161
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Just the 24 pounds for Cyborg to lose over the next few days just to make 140 :eek:

    http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/9/19/12976442/cris-cyborg-still-needs-to-lose-24-pounds-before-friday-weigh-in


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    #4162
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,736 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Paully D wrote: »
    Just the 24 pounds for Cyborg to lose over the next few days just to make 140 :eek:

    http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/9/19/12976442/cris-cyborg-still-needs-to-lose-24-pounds-before-friday-weigh-in

    Thats insane i hope shes ok because that cut will nearly kill her.

    In chael related news, massive implications if he fails a test.

    http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/9/19/12952766/chael-sonnen-says-he-loses-100-percent-of-purse-and-faces-500000-fine


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    #4163
    Mellor
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    More and more fighters are going to be jumping ship. Both Rockhold & Weidman have come out and said they're not being paid enough recently.

    It will be a small process, but I think Bellator will be getting stronger and stronger over the next few years. Sure they have the Bendos & Rory's of the world, but once the prospects like Iaquinta, Duffy etc. start refusing new contracts and going over the Bellator, then they'll really start to become players!
    I'm glad fighters are making moves to get better pay. But they need to focus on making better deals going forward and stop playing the victim card over past pay. They got paid what they agreed. Nobody forced them and it's only since McGregor money that they are feeling short changed.
    Fair enough, new signings take what they can't get. But Chris and Luke were MW champs, the onus is on them imo.



    Belator will help out one it two fighters who jump first, but the rest are screwed. For every former UFC fighter getting 6 figures, there 8 guys on the undercard getting $2k or less.


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    #4164
    Lukker-
    Registered Users Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    ASOT wrote: »
    In chael related news, massive implications if he fails a test.

    http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/9/19/12952766/chael-sonnen-says-he-loses-100-percent-of-purse-and-faces-500000-fine

    I'm inclined not to he'd lose a 100% of his purse or get a 500k fine, it's a bit unprecedented.

    In Chael's own words, "Heels lie".


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    #4165
    Lukker-
    Registered Users Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Mellor wrote: »
    I'm glad fighters are making moves to get better pay. But they need to focus on making better deals going forward and stop playing the victim card over past pay. They got paid what they agreed. Nobody forced them and it's only since McGregor money that they are feeling short changed.
    Fair enough, new signings take what they can't get. But Chris and Luke were MW champs, the onus is on them imo.



    Belator will help out one it two fighters who jump first, but the rest are screwed. For every former UFC fighter getting 6 figures, there 8 guys on the undercard getting $2k or less.

    The problem with Weidman and Rockhold was they had no provisions in their contracts as to what happened if they lost their belts. Both were happy and making champion money while it lasted but once they lost it they reverted to their original contracts.

    TJ Dillashaw is back earning 20/20 once he lost the belt.

    I think the Bellator option will improve affairs of the fighters. Testing free agency is the result of people trying to get improved contract offers and IMO more and more fighters will be doing it.


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    #4166
    stephenl15
    Registered Users Posts: 5,885 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    Only just seen rewards is being scrapped :( Literally can't afford anything either with 1945 pts. Guess I'll be getting a 1mth sub to fight pass


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    #4167
    maximoose
    Registered Users Posts: 9,202 ✭✭✭maximoose


    Fight pass, you mad? Look at all those sweet, sweet wallpapers you could get :pac:

    I have about 4k points, suppose a few months fight pass is better than nothing


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    #4168
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    What's the trick to getting the 1 month fight pass??? I have the points for 3 of them. I select 3 in the quantity drop down. Confirm. Confirm again. Then nothing happens :/


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    #4169
    John_D80
    Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    Mr. Manager wrote: »
    What's the trick to getting the 1 month fight pass??? I have the points for 3 of them. I select 3 in the quantity drop down. Confirm. Confirm again. Then nothing happens :/

    I'm having trouble redeeming my last few points as well when I try to get the FightPass subscription.


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    #4170
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,736 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Gus v Lil Nog slated for Fight Night 100. Scoggins v Pedro Munhoz also.


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    #4171
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Mellor wrote: »
    I'm glad fighters are making moves to get better pay. But they need to focus on making better deals going forward and stop playing the victim card over past pay. They got paid what they agreed. Nobody forced them and it's only since McGregor money that they are feeling short changed.
    Fair enough, new signings take what they can't get. But Chris and Luke were MW champs, the onus is on them imo.



    Belator will help out one it two fighters who jump first, but the rest are screwed. For every former UFC fighter getting 6 figures, there 8 guys on the undercard getting $2k or less.

    Most of them agreed deals before the reebok deal was put into place so they were working out their income on the bases of fight pay + sponsorship, most were making far more from sponsorship than fight pay, losing the sponsorship money and getting a ****ty few k from reebok is crippling a lot of them.


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