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General MMA Chat/News mk2

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    #4982
    shrapnel222
    Registered Users Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭shrapnel222


    Levi Huge Source wrote: »
    The sumo wrestler (I think?) who lost his tooth because he didn't know he could get kicked on the ground was definitely a highlight :pac:

    the worst part was the refereeing. the guy was beaten to a pulp, and the refs instead of stopping it called the corner/doc/etc. rather than stopping it. shamrock tapped in front of the ref also like 5 times, yet the ref didn't see it. shocking stuff all round in every fight


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    #4983
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Watch Kron fight and you'll get an idea.

    Kron is probably more rounded than both though.

    But yeah, the likes of Sheilds, Maia, Kron. They'd all be the modern versions of the lads.

    I think Rickson might have been more in the GSP mould in the modern era though.


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    #4984
    Lukker-
    Registered Users Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Big John McCarthy actually wanted to fight and represent the Gracie's at UFC 1 but the Gracie's wanted someone smaller against bigger guys to demonstrate how effective BJJ was.


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    #4985
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,414 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Lukker- wrote: »
    Big John McCarthy actually wanted to fight and represent the Gracie's at UFC 1 but the Gracie's wanted someone smaller against bigger guys to demonstrate how effective BJJ was.
    I think that was at UFC 2, he was at UFC with Rorion, and wanted to enter. But they want to keep going with Royce, for the reasons you said.
    Royce wasn't chosen as the best of the Gracie fighters. He was chosen as the smallest. Rickson was probably best at the time.

    Royce might not even be in the top 3 of all time if it were not for the early UFC's.


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    #4986
    Fromvert
    Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    Lukker- wrote: »
    Big John McCarthy actually wanted to fight and represent the Gracie's at UFC 1 but the Gracie's wanted someone smaller against bigger guys to demonstrate how effective BJJ was.

    Think that was the same reason they went with Royce over Rickson with Rickson being bigger and more muscled compared to Royce's slender frame.
    Google tells me Rickson wanted too much money to do it.


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    #4987
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    I thought they didn't send Rickson because he was an animal and they wanted to demonstrate that JiuJitsu was about technique not strength no?


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    #4988
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,414 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    TimRiggins wrote: »
    I thought they didn't send Rickson because he was an animal and they wanted to demonstrate that JiuJitsu was about technique not strength no?
    As with everything Gracie family, there's probably different versions depending on who you ask.
    And probably none of which are the full truth.


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    #4989
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    We were robbed of Rickson v Sakuraba anyways thats for sure,


    Jones v Hendo booked for an ebi rules grappling event Dec 11th.


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    #4990
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,414 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Gamebred wrote: »
    We were robbed of Rickson v Sakuraba anyways thats for sure,
    Yeah, I could never figure out why that one never happened.
    Saku even called him out at one point. You'd think it was an obvious match after he beat Royce.


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    #4991
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Mellor wrote: »
    Yeah, I could never figure out why that one never happened.
    Saku even called him out at one point. You'd think it was an obvious match after he beat Royce.

    Didn't he kind of just stop after his son died? Was talk of a fight happening around the time iirc


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    #4992
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,414 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    Didn't he kind of just stop after his son died? Was talk of a fight happening around the time iirc
    Yeah, I think you're right. Just had a read of wiki there to check timelines/history.

    Rickson was offer the Sakuraba fight twice, after he bear Royler and again after Royce. He turned both down, and booked other fights.
    Rockson died shortly afterwards and Rickson never fought again. You have think that they'd have eventually made the match up otherwise.


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    #4993
    Depp
    Registered Users Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    TimRiggins wrote: »
    I thought they didn't send Rickson because he was an animal and they wanted to demonstrate that JiuJitsu was about technique not strength no?

    thats what I've heard anyway, Royce was the smallest/weakest of them so he got the nod to show with maximum effect how effective bjj was. Crazy to see how far the sport has come in such a relatively short time though!


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    #4994
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Mellor wrote: »
    Yeah, I think you're right. Just had a read of wiki there to check timelines/history.

    Rickson was offer the Sakuraba fight twice, after he bear Royler and again after Royce. He turned both down, and booked other fights.
    Rockson died shortly afterwards and Rickson never fought again. You have think that they'd have eventually made the match up otherwise.


    It's OK, Ralek eventually won back the family's honor. And the turned into a little turd.


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    #4995
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,476 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    It's OK, Ralek eventually won back the family's honor. And the turned into a little turd.

    There was a screenshot of a Facebook or IG comment of his where he said something along the lines of "metamoris wasn't created to pay debts, it was about showcasing the best of jiu jitsu".

    Would be surprised if many continue to deal with him.


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    #4996
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    There was a screenshot of a Facebook or IG comment of his where he said something along the lines of "metamoris wasn't created to pay debts, it was about showcasing the best of jiu jitsu".

    Would be surprised if many continue to deal with him.


    Just signed to Bellator.


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    #4997
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,476 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    Just signed to Bellator.

    Yeah, but that relationship works the other way round - they pay him instead of vice versa!


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    #4998
    dashoonage
    Registered Users Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    Lads/Ladies

    Has no bone jones been stripped of the interm belt so ?


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    #4999
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    dashoonage wrote: »
    Lads/Ladies

    Has no bone jones been stripped of the interm belt so ?

    Who cares, that belt literally means nothing in the UFC.


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    #5000
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,736 ✭✭✭ASOT


    dashoonage wrote: »
    Lads/Ladies

    Has no bone jones been stripped of the interm belt so ?

    Yep part of the ban is to have any titles taken!


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    #5001
    dashoonage
    Registered Users Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    ASOT wrote: »
    Yep part of the ban is to have any titles taken!

    i take it the interm is done away with so. Proper order.


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    #5002
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    I think they've forgotten about it.


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    #5003
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    I wouldn't be surprised if they just ignored it and didn't bother announcing anything.


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    #5004
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Isnt Nevada going to impose a punishment on him too? seen it somewhere that hes gotta answer to them now.


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    #5005
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users Posts: 12,342 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Levi Huge Source wrote: »
    The sumo wrestler (I think?) who lost his tooth because he didn't know he could get kicked on the ground was definitely a highlight :pac:

    Lost 3 teeth. One flew out of the cage, 2 others stayed embedded in Gordeau's foot* as removing them needed surgery and he didn't want to pull out. So they taped over the teeth and he continued.

    *UFC officials have denied this over the years but both Tuli (the Sumo) and Gordeau have confirmed it.


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    #5006
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Isnt Nevada going to impose a punishment on him too? seen it somewhere that hes gotta answer to them now.

    That's always the way. It was Nevada who gave Diaz the ridiculous ban for pot, not the USADA. State athletic comission bans tend to be less than UASDA/WADA and are usually backdated.

    Will probably be a 6-12 month retroactive ban.


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    #5007
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    That's always the way. It was Nevada who gave Diaz the ridiculous ban for pot, not the USADA. State athletic comission bans tend to be less than UASDA/WADA and are usually backdated.

    Will probably be a 6-12 month retroactive ban.


    Hefty fine too probably.


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    #5008
    NightmareUFC
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭NightmareUFC


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bU7MwADlOk


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    #5009
    JoeyJJ
    Registered Users Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭JoeyJJ


    Chris don't throw too many high kicks.


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    #5010
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Gian Villante is the biggest typical american jock moron had to turn off the mma hour there after 5 minutes of listening to him absolute headwrecker.


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    #5011
    TheNap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 786 ✭✭✭TheNap


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Gian Villante is the biggest typical american jock moron had to turn off the mma hour there after 5 minutes of listening to him absolute headwrecker.

    Tell us how you really feel


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