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    #5102
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Size would probably be a big factor but I'd love to see Khabib v Aldo, Jose has the best TD defence in mma history imo and would light khabib on fire I reckon.


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    #5103
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Think aldo v khabib would be a huge mismatch. Think khabib is too big and would maul aldo


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    #5104
    califano
    Registered Users Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


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    If what Rogan said is true, that RDA was unconscious and unresponsive for three minutes while weight cutting there's no way he should of been allowed fight. Negligence from anyone involved, sometimes you have to save people from themselves.

    Is there such thing as being unconscious and responsive?. I thought being unresponsive is the determining part of being unconscious?. I've never seen a responsive unconscious person anyway.
    Mellor get in here!


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    #5105
    finglashoop
    Registered Users Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    califano wrote: »
    Is there such thing as being unconscious and responsive?. I thought being unresponsive is the determining part of being unconscious?. I've never seen a responsive unconscious person anyway.
    Mellor get in here!

    Could you be unconscious but respond to certain stimuli? The auld hammer to the knee test?


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    #5106
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    finglashoop wrote: »
    Could you be unconscious but respond to certain stimuli? The auld hammer to the knee test?

    usually its to the sole of the foot, the pen/pin prick


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    #5107
    MartyMcFly84
    Registered Users Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭MartyMcFly84


    Or smelling salts are used to bring people around.

    I think if someone is unresponsive they do not react to these kinds of stimulus.


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    #5108
    Lukker-
    Registered Users Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    He was only unconscious for 3 minutes, I doubt they had smelling salts on hand to try and bring him back.

    Unless there was a doctor close by I'd say they just checked his pulse


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    #5109
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Lukker- wrote: »
    He was only unconscious for 3 minutes, I doubt they had smelling salts on hand to try and bring him back.

    Unless there was a doctor close by I'd say they just checked his pulse

    If someone is unconscious and unresponsive for 3 minutes they are at severe risk of going into arrest and medics would assume the worst and prepare for using a defib and possibly begin CPR upon arrival.

    BTW, you can be unconscious and responsive. As stated above poking the soles of the feet, shining a light in the eyes, sternum rubs or a host of other ways are used to determine responsiveness or lack there of.


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    #5110
    stephenl15
    Registered Users Posts: 5,885 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    Jonathan Liew of the Telegraph...

    "Do not be fooled by Conor McGregor - UFC is the sadistic Donald Trump equivalent of elite sport"

    "The UFC is huge. It's getting huger. And the whole industry and artifice that's grown up around it has convinced lots of people that this is a proper sport worth taking seriously. After all, if it looks and sounds like a sport, it probably is, right?

    No, not really. It's car-park brutality. It's fringe madness. Its president is a sexist and its most famous fighter is a delusional charlatan. Giving it a primetime slot on BT Sport doesn't change that, any more than putting a racist loony in the White House doesn't make him any less racist or any less loony.

    This week's column, on how the world turned a shade of UFC."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/mma/2016/11/16/do-not-be-fooled-by-conor-mcgregor---ufc-is-the-sadistic-donald/


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    #5111
    martyos121
    Registered Users Posts: 21,391 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    I think uninformed articles like that are best left ignored and not quoted here. Leave them to their anciently outdated opinions.


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    #5112
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    What's the guesses for the London card main event? Bisping out of the picture surely he fights on ppv?

    My guess is Manuwa or Gunni hopefully the later, hope to **** its not filled with Pickett Breese and people like that.


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    #5113
    stephenl15
    Registered Users Posts: 5,885 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    martyos121 wrote: »
    I think uninformed articles like that are best left ignored and not quoted here. Leave them to their anciently outdated opinions.

    Apologies:)


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    #5114
    brinty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Gamebred wrote:
    My guess is Manuwa or Gunni hopefully the later, hope to **** its not filled with Pickett Breese and people like that.

    Isn't breese gone from UFC


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    #5115
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Gamebred wrote: »
    What's the guesses for the London card main event? Bisping out of the picture surely he fights on ppv?

    My guess is Manuwa or Gunni hopefully the later, hope to **** its not filled with Pickett Breese and people like that.

    If I had to put money on it I'd guess Manuwa also. I could see Manuwa v Bader (presuming he wins at the weekend) or Manuwa v Gustafsson 2.

    Hopefully we will see a bit of an Irish contingent on it too. Gunni (co-main v someone like Saffedine or maybe even Leon Edwards might be an option) and Ais would be nice.


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    #5116
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib/status/799015923013169152



    zzz where have we heard this before, funny thing is UFC would happily let him sit out imo stupid tweet.


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    #5117
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Gamebred wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib/status/799015923013169152



    zzz where have we heard this before, funny thing is UFC would happily let him sit out imo stupid tweet.

    he is right to take a stand to be fair


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    #5118
    0byme75341jo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    Gamebred wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib/status/799015923013169152



    zzz where have we heard this before, funny thing is UFC would happily let him sit out imo stupid tweet.

    You'd swear he was a draw the way he's talking :rolleyes: It wouldn't surprise me if the UFC see him as more trouble than he's worth tbh..


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    #5119
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    he is right to take a stand to be fair


    He's fought about twice in 2 or 3 years he has no right to call any shots with the UFC one of them being against a part time electrician.


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    #5120
    John_D80
    Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    brinty wrote: »
    Isn't breese gone from UFC

    Seriously?

    What happened? Another Tri-Star casualty?


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    #5121
    Depp
    Registered Users Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Levi Huge Source wrote: »
    You'd swear he was a draw the way he's talking :rolleyes: It wouldn't surprise me if the UFC see him as more trouble than he's worth tbh..

    I think he actually thinks he is one! I'd honestly think dana sees this and laughs...


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    #5122
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Gamebred wrote: »
    He's fought about twice in 2 or 3 years he has no right to call any shots with the UFC one of them being against a part time electrician.

    He has been injured, thats like saying cruz didnt deserve a shot. Seriously if anyone doesn't think he is a legit threat and one of a few challenges for conor they are being blinded by the fact conor is irish.


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    #5123
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Jon Jones v Dan Henderson and Miesha Tate v Jessica Eye at Submission Underground 2 on December 11th.


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    #5124
    0byme75341jo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    Paully D, you're not the fella from the42.ie are you? :pac:


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    #5125
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Levi Huge Source wrote: »
    Paully D, you're not the fella from the42.ie are you? :pac:

    I've actually been asked that a couple of times.

    I'm not. I'd have thought the dribble I posted on here would be proof enough as Dollery is an excellent writer :pac:


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    #5126
    Lukker-
    Registered Users Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Ferguson deserves the shot over Habeeb IMO. But I'd prefer if Khabib got it, I think he's the easier fight. Ferguson is much more rounded and would have a decent height + reach advantage over Conor, plus he's got an iron chin.

    Either way, Conor has 2 very tough prospects to face at LW next.


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    #5127
    xtal191
    Registered Users Posts: 6,372 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Pretty sure Breese is still with the UFC, thought he planned on moving up to middleweight


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    #5128
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Paully D wrote: »
    Jon Jones v Dan Henderson and Miesha Tate v Jessica Eye at Submission Underground 2 on December 11th.


    I dont get the JJ Hendo match up? hes nearly 50 ffs whats he gonna do to Jones? its submission grappling not a wrestling match (wouldnt do **** anyway if it was)


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    #5129
    martyos121
    Registered Users Posts: 21,391 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    stephenl15 wrote: »
    Apologies:)

    Ah no need to apologise man, I just don't like idiots like that getting clicks, they don't deserve them.


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    #5130
    Useful.Idiot
    Registered Users Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Useful.Idiot


    Gamebred wrote: »
    I dont get the JJ Hendo match up?

    More a circus match-up than anything. Think it's just playing along with the storyline of JJ being the opponent Hendo always wanted to fight but never got a chance to while also letting JJ keep his name relevant during his suspension.


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    #5131
    mdwexford
    Registered Users Posts: 11,279 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    He has been injured, thats like saying cruz didnt deserve a shot. Seriously if anyone doesn't think he is a legit threat and one of a few challenges for conor they are being blinded by the fact conor is irish.

    Cruz was the champion who never lost his belt. He had much more of a right to a shot than a guy who had one good win ever before his injury.

    Khabib looks the part but still has two good wins and has had major injuries. Ferguson deserves the shot far more in my view.


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