General MMA Chat/News mk2

DrPhilG

He has claimed medical treatment, but hasn't said what kind.

Dick pill excuse incoming...

Subcomandante Marcos

Be aware that it could be something as simple as an undeclared inhaler when talking about these things.

Mellor

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Be aware that it could be something as simple as an undeclared inhaler when talking about these things.

Yeah sure. It could be something reasonable. But let's not forget Rothwell was flagged before. For super-dosing while on TRT.

It's quite impressive that he was able to recover from that crippling hypogonism he had. He's very lucky that his body no longer needed TRT after it was made illegal.
:rolleyes:

finglashoop

Mellor wrote: »

The under the care of a physician excuse won't remotely fly if he didn't disclose the treatment when given an opportunity to, and/or didn't attempt to go down the TUE route. If it was some sort of hormone treatment he'll rightfully be laughed at.
The latest fad of asking forgiveness instead of permission is fast becoming the new TRT.

Worked for cyborg. I presume they are told what they are flagged for. Go to their doctor and find an ailment they would need the drug that flagged. Hey Presto, hope you are valuable enough to the ufc to be given a tue.

finglashoop

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Be aware that it could be something as simple as an undeclared inhaler when talking about these things.

Werent most of the irish rugby team on inhalers at one stage?

In this era of usada is there no procedure where you would have to disclose everything your gp gives you?

riffmongous

finglashoop wrote: »

Werent most of the irish rugby team on inhalers at one stage?

In this era of usada is there no procedure where you would have to disclose everything your gp gives you?

Not just them..

70% of top UK swimmers and third of Team Sky cyclists suffer from some form of condition, especially exercise-induced asthma

it seems your chances of being a top athlete are limited unless you have asthma :pac:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/28/asthma-elite-athletes-study-swimmers-cyclist-eid

Zero-Cool

211 has added Eddie v dustin officially. Also cejudo for pettis and maia v masvidal.

ASOT

211 is absolutely jam packed.

maximoose

Yeah 211 is looking great now, imagine if Tony/Khabib was added too :eek:

dashoonage

maximoose wrote: »

Yeah 211 is looking great now, imagine if Tony/Khabib was added too :eek:

Its probably the safest card to put it on. If either pulled out its still a stacked card.

MrStuffins

I think the best fight to make is actually Ferguson v Nate Diaz for the Interim LW Title.

Khabib can't pull out and still bang the "I've beaten everyone" drum. If you get the opportunity and pull out due to your own unprofessionalism, then you go to the back of the queue!

Ferguson v Diaz would be a bigger fight, more trash talk, more hype, great stylistic match up and whatever the outcome will set up a huge fight v Conor McGregor!

DrumSteve

MrStuffins wrote: »

I think the best fight to make is actually Ferguson v Nate Diaz for the Interim LW Title.

Khabib can't pull out and still bang the "I've beaten everyone" drum. If you get the opportunity and pull out due to your own unprofessionalism, then you go to the back of the queue!

Ferguson v Diaz would be a bigger fight, more trash talk, more hype, great stylistic match up and whatever the outcome will set up a huge fight v Conor McGregor!

All depends on Tony taking that fight also, he's next in line at the moment.

dashoonage

DrumSteve wrote: »

All depends on Tony taking that fight also, he's next in line at the moment.

So is Yoel, next in line means jack ****. The only way tony is getting a shot at the maclife is with an interim belt around his waste. If they offer him that vs Diaz then he would be a fool not to take it.

MrStuffins

DrumSteve wrote: »

All depends on Tony taking that fight also, he's next in line at the moment.

I'm sure he'll take it for an Interim belt and a load of cash!

The White Feather

Daniel Cormier is p*ssed off about the poster for UFC210. He is small but Rumble is huge! He does have a point !

"What is this? How many favors did Rumble have to call in to make this **** happen? Just remember last time the challenger looked so big on the poster RDA beat cowboy in one round."

https://www.instagram.com/p/BRYjNfkAN7d/

martyos121

Big Red Johnson will destroy him though. Cormier looks extremely pale in that photo, can't be a good sign.

0byme75341jo28

Not a chance Diaz will take a fight with Ferguson for a shot at McGregor. As it stands he's nearly guaranteed a trilogy fight and a big pay day, at some stage - a loss to Ferguson and that might never happen. Definitely not worth the risk.

Zero-Cool

UFC seriously need to hire this guy, savage poster

https://twitter.com/Bosslogic/status/839514737381519360

SureYWouldntYa

It makes little sense considering Cormier has beaten Rumble

That would have been a fantastic poster for Rumble Jones after Rumbles KO streak

AlmightyCushion

The White Feather wrote: »

Daniel Cormier is p*ssed off about the poster for UFC210. He is small but Rumble is huge! He does have a point !

"What is this? How many favors did Rumble have to call in to make this **** happen? Just remember last time the challenger looked so big on the poster RDA beat cowboy in one round."

https://www.instagram.com/p/BRYjNfkAN7d/

See, Woodley was right. The UFC are racist and that's why they made DC so small on the poster.

ASOT

There posters have been dog**** since the takeover.

Mellor

finglashoop wrote: »

Worked for cyborg. I presume they are told what they are flagged for. Go to their doctor and find an ailment they would need the drug that flagged. Hey Presto, hope you are valuable enough to the ufc to be given a tue.

Except that the UFC have no say in it. It's not like the where they handled the overseas bans. And not every PED will have a plausible ailment. Like I don't think they'll buy it if Big Ben says he's got polycystic ovary syndrome.

finglashoop

Mellor wrote: »

Except that the UFC have no say in it. It's not like the where they handled the overseas bans. And not every PED will have a plausible ailment. Like I don't think they'll buy it if Big Ben says he's got polycystic ovary syndrome.

They've set a precedent so if he can find an ailment that he can use these meds the outcome should be the same for him as cyborg.

I dont believe the ufc have no influence with usada.

dashoonage

Mmmm....this looks more appealing that 209 on paper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Belfort_vs._Gastelum

dashoonage

Edgar vs Yair official for 211...most stacked card since 205?

ricero

dashoonage wrote: »

Edgar vs Yair official for 211...most stacked card since 205?

And im sitting here hoping they announce another big fight for 210

dashoonage

ricero wrote: »

And im sitting here hoping they announce another big fight for 210

210....the awkward moment between 209 and 211

Kabliblekebabley and Tony onto 211 and a man would have to consider a few days in dollars.

ASOT

Flights for 211 are 515e with singapore airlines, great flight times also. 14hrs going over 11 coming back.

kumate_champ07

finglashoop wrote: »

They've set a precedent so if he can find an ailment that he can use these meds the outcome should be the same for him as cyborg.

I dont believe the ufc have no influence with usada.

he was in a car crash when he was young in which his best friend died, apparently the accident effected his bodies hormonal production ,which can happen after severe bodily trauma.

Mellor

finglashoop wrote: »

They've set a precedent so if he can find an ailment that he can use these meds the outcome should be the same for him as cyborg.

I dont believe the ufc have no influence with usada.

Cyborg was one out of many athletes assessed by USADA. And by no means the norm. You can't just pick the favourable results and claim precedent.

They also aren't retards. If he claims an obscure illness, or an impossible illness they are going to do their due diligence on it.

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

he was in a car crash when he was young in which his best friend died, apparently the accident effected his bodies hormonal production ,which can happen after severe bodily trauma.

That was the excuse he used 3 years ago when he went on TRT.
Funnily that he medically needed TRT to be healthy when it was legal. But as soon as it was illegal, he suddenly no longer really needed it.

Based on that anything he says now should really be inspected and met with a :rolleyes:.
If he claims a hormone issue now, they should cross check that with his blood samples on file. Should be easy to expose any lies.