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Every last one of them was trying to do the McGregor/Sonnen act. My god..... I mean why not be themselves? Was refreshing to see Weidman and Gastelum actually be nice to each other. Jones coming out with the belt was ace

ricero

Pity we didnt get to see bisping and romero there that would of been a good laugh

cligy

Michael Johnson's attempts at smacktalk were just cringeworthy.

wonderfullife

Anyone who likes BJJ will probably love this article on Demian Maia by Dana's favorite journalist Jonathan Snowden. It's really really good.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2709268-ufc-211-he-could-be-ufc-champion-and-he-doesnt-throw-punches

It's a way to discover self-consciousness and to understand yourself better, to learn how to control yourself under pressure. All of these values, the things that are important in jiu-jitsu, are just as important in everyday life. This is something I can help give to other people.

Hazys

Nobody should be cheering for Jon Jones but Cormier makes it so easy. Cormier's need for approval off the crowd is pathetic. All he has to do is keep his mouth shut and let Jon Jones F it up by himself but he constantly feels the need to throw Jones under the bus but it only backfires on him.

Jones to his credit is owning the bad guy persona for once and that honesty is more relatable than the needy Cormier persona.

Hazys

Hazys wrote: »

Nobody should be cheering for Jon Jones but Cormier makes it so easy. Cormier's need for approval off the crowd is pathetic. All he has to do is keep his mouth shut and let Jon Jones F it up by himself but he constantly feels the need to throw Jones under the bus but it only backfires on him.

Jones to his credit is owning the bad guy persona for once and that honesty is more relatable than the needy Cormier persona.

Yeah from watching interviews with Jon I think he is probably a bad guy in real life and has a massive ego problem, all Jon cares about is Jon. In saying that the man knows how to play a crowd and in my opnion is the greatest fighter of all time, his failed drug test is the one time when I believe a fighter saying they didn't do it on purpose.

I think Bones finishes DC this time, I can see him being very motivated and out for the finish. Jon been practicing his bjj for the last year? Any chance of him subbing DC in later rounds?

wonderfullife

Hazys wrote: »

Nobody should be cheering for Jon Jones but Cormier makes it so easy. Cormier's need for approval off the crowd is pathetic. All he has to do is keep his mouth shut and let Jon Jones F it up by himself but he constantly feels the need to throw Jones under the bus but it only backfires on him.

Jones to his credit is owning the bad guy persona for once and that honesty is more relatable than the needy Cormier persona.

I thought DC upped his trash-talk game and came across far better today. More natural and less forced.

You're right though there's still an undercurrent of "I just want to be loved" but he just strikes me as the big cuddly teddy bear type of fella away from fighting I'd say he's a pushover at home.

Lukker-

Is Tj vs Cody off?

Mellor

wonderfullife wrote: »

Many people are saying these are nonsensical/horrible match-ups for Gunnar and Charlie, in particular.

What are the upsides for Gunni or Charlie here? If they both win, they go nowhere. If they both lose, then Gunni slips down below Ponzibbio, Usman, maybe even Saffedine if he beats RDA. If Charlie loses he gets cut.

If Shelby was in a favour-doing mood he wouldn't be offering no-win fights.

At first I thought it was a silly match up for Gunni, because I didn't immediately know who Ponzi was. But since then I've seen he's actually ranked 13th, so a match with Gunni at 9th is fairly normal.
Obviously most fighter will always want to be looking ahead in the rankings. But it can't always work out like that. From what I understand most top 10 fighters were unavailable.

I just saw TJ offered to go to 125 and fight DJ for the belt and DJ said he has no interest in fighting TJ......... I mean the guy should be jumping at a chance for a more headliner fight and to make some extra money. Hopefully Dana just makes that fight, would be interesting as all hell if TJ can make that weight.

Mellor

Sounds like BS from TJ. Playing games with Cody. And DJ's not getting dragged into it

Mellor

Mellor wrote: »

Sounds like BS from TJ. Playing games with Cody. And DJ's not getting dragged into it

I mean I know DJ is quite but getting dragged into this stuff and having some fun with some headlines is what could maybe make him more marketable. Considering he is breaking numbers for lowest viewed fox events etc, if he wants his big pay day he is going to have to play the media game a little.

dulux99

The ease at which Jones gets under DC's skin looks bad for DC. When they were about to square off at the end and Jones had his own belt, DC was was actually beside himself with rage, and we're still 2/3 months from the fight

wonderfullife

Mellor wrote: »

Sounds like BS from TJ. Playing games with Cody. And DJ's not getting dragged into it

Dana was very keen on TJ v DJ at the Press Gaggle last night. Basically said if Cody's stem cell treatment doesn't fix it, that he'd be down for making that fight.

Gamebred

They wont allow DJ main event a July card anyways horrible for business as much as I'd like to see it.

Pighead

wonderfullife wrote: »

Dana was very keen on TJ v DJ at the Press Gaggle last night. Basically said if Cody's stem cell treatment doesn't fix it, that he'd be down for making that fight.

I think he actually said that the stem cell treatment has been tried already and didn't work so they are sending him to a place in Germany which pretty much always fixed the type of injury he has. He said all the top athletes go to this place and they always get fixed up.

AlmightyCushion

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I mean I know DJ is quite but getting dragged into this stuff and having some fun with some headlines is what could maybe make him more marketable. Considering he is breaking numbers for lowest viewed fox events etc, if he wants his big pay day he is going to have to play the media game a little.

DJ could be on the biggest selling PPV card of all time and he still wouldn't get a big pay day. He doesn't get PPV points, in his contact he gets a higher pay for show and win bonuses instead.

Lukker-

Pighead wrote: »

wonderfullife wrote: »

Dana was very keen on TJ v DJ at the Press Gaggle last night. Basically said if Cody's stem cell treatment doesn't fix it, that he'd be down for making that fight.

I think he actually said that the stem cell treatment has been tried already and didn't work so they are sending him to a place in Germany which pretty much always fixed the type of injury he has. He said all the top athletes go to this place and they always get fixed up.

The blanket stem cell treatment the UFC seems to provide never works. Raging Al said the specialist he saw couldn't believe the UFC were offering treatment that had no proven benefits for the injury he had. They would only pay a fraction of his surgery he actually needed. Seem to push stem cells as some magic bullet placebo fix instead of coughing up and helping fighters recover the right way.

dulux99

DJ has come out and said he has no interest in fighting Dillashaw at 125...honestly I have zero sympathy for dj these days. Probably the only fight available that people would he excited for and he comes out and publicly announces that he doesn't want it. Yet he's the first one to cry and whinge that he's not a star. You can't expect people to give a crap about you when you don't seem to care about being in exciting fights yourself.

Zero-Cool

Yupp, no doubt he's one of the best in the world but no one gives a **** about his defense record. I'd prefer a TJ fight over 5 more fights against people he's already beat. He won't risk his run against TJ and the excuse that TJ isn't a champ doesn't fly, would be his most interesting and profitable fight in years.

Very hard to listen to DC try the hard man talk about fighting in the street. The only reason he stays alive fighting Jon is the rules of the Octagon.

Weak summer line up. Highlight was MJ saying he eats his **** whole.

Lukker-

TJ doesn't move the needle, so loads of risk for little reward. It'd be a fight that hardcore fans would love, but very few casuals.

dulux99

Lukker- wrote: »

TJ doesn't move the needle, so loads of risk for little reward. It'd be a fight that hardcore fans would love, but very few casuals.

No flyweight fight ever moves the needle. Atleast the hard core fans will be excited for DJ vs Dillashaw. Itd be the only time there would ever be true excitement for a DJ main event. Neither the casual nor the hard-core fans give a toss about DJ vs Benavidez 3

Gamebred

UFC will make him fight TJ if they really want it, who else is he meant to fight now Ray Borg or something gtfo.

ricero

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Yupp, no doubt he's one of the best in the world but no one gives a **** about his defense record. I'd prefer a TJ fight over 5 more fights against people he's already beat. He won't risk his run against TJ and the excuse that TJ isn't a champ doesn't fly, would be his most interesting and profitable fight in years.

Very hard to listen to DC try the hard man talk about fighting in the street. The only reason he stays alive fighting Jon is the rules of the Octagon.

Weak summer line up. Highlight was MJ saying he eats his **** whole.

Dunno about it being weak some cracking fights coming up like

Aldo vs holloway
cowboy vs lawlor
tj vs no love (hopefully)
nunes vs shekshenko
dc vs jones
weidmann v gastelum
and my personal favorite of lewis vs hunt

Zero-Cool

More meant that summer conference was weak. Aldo v Holloway should be absolute fireworks, if Aldo pulls out I'll go ****ing mad!

wonderfullife

wonderfullife wrote: »

Sean Shelby literally just granted Artem the Cub Swanson fight after a social media campaign by Artem/John for the fight.

Artem then loses and initiates another campaign for the Doo Ho Choi fight.

I thought the timing of the announcement on the Doo Ho Choi - Andre Fili fight was more of a "I'm the matchmaker here not you lads. Pipe down".

I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Sean Shelby hands Artem a fight with Zabit Magomedshapirov as a complete 'stop annoying me!'. Zabit is a killer, just signed to the UFC and a fight Artem has little to gain from and every likelihood of losing. Whereas Jason Knight is a (relatively) high profile fight with something to gain in winning.

I'm not saying fighters shouldn't campaign for opponents (of course they should) but constantly tagging Shelby in requests for big fights on the back of a loss and a 2-3 UFC record is probably not a good idea.

https://twitter.com/RusHammerMMA/status/863596247961268225

ASOT

Wonder mate your gone off the deepend with some of the stuff your posting.

martyos121

Rumble Johnson is just after confirming what his next step is now that he's retired, and it's not to do with American football as reported;

Weed farming. Anthony, you're truly doing the lord's work.

Full story: http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/5/14/15639738/anthony-johnson-reveals-next-step-in-his-career-after-ufc-retirement

Lukker-

Lukker- wrote: »

TJ doesn't move the needle, so loads of risk for little reward. It'd be a fight that hardcore fans would love, but very few casuals.

Yeah.... That argument would work if TJ was asking DJ to move up to 135, he isn't! TJ is saying he will fight at 125, therefore DJ should fight all comers at 125. DJ just knows it a tough fight but everyone is claiming he is the 'goat'... then he should prove it.

Point being: I was of the opinion all along that if DJ is complaining about not making enough money he should go to 135 and do a super fight or something, his said "why should I have to move up weight".... which is fair enough but TJ is coming to 125 so fight the man.

Mellor

Deleted User wrote: »

...but TJ is coming to 125 so fight the man.

TJ says he is coming to 125. But I'll believe it when I see it.
He's never been close to that light before, even in college wrestling, and he's probably carrying more muscle these days.