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ASOT

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Taylor could easily meet Cyborg at 140. She goes up 5lb, Cyborg comes down 5. Bring it on.

Cybord wants to fight at 154 in boxing apparently

DrPhilG

Would there really be more money in boxing than in MMA for Cyborg?

I mean outside of the elite like McGregor vs Mayweather is there really much money to be made for MMA fighters crossing over? Especially women's boxing.

I'd have thought that Cyborg made a lot more than Taylor in their last fights.

Admittedly I have no clue what kind of money Taylor is making but Cyborg made $200k basic in her last fight and presumably a lot more adding sponsorship and PPV points if she gets them.

Wrongway1985

The 2 women on the undercard of the MayMac payout was 5k defeats 3.5k

TimRiggins

Heather Hardy did a good interview on the MMA Hour awhile ago and by all cases it seems women make far more money in MMA than Boxing.

Eyes Down Field

ASOT wrote: »

Cybord wants to fight at 154 in boxing apparently

Which doesn't make sense. Because she's not going to make any real money fighting the bums in that division. Avoiding Hammer and Taylor.

Katie would smash her.

Mellor

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Which doesn't make sense. Because she's not going to make any real money fighting the bums in that division. Avoiding Hammer and Taylor.

Katie would smash her.

I'm assuming you are completely unfamiliar with Cyborgs weight history.
There's no way she easily makes 140 all things considered. She made 140 once in MMA and it was a huge struggle, potentially damaging. 145 isn't exactly easy either. Anything below that is off limits for her imo.
The laws of physics and biology of course apply, and she physically could drop mass, for an easy cut to 140, or even 135. But she won't do it. She has a strong attachment to her size and power and just refuses to give it up.

wonderfullife

Will never happen but I'd love to see what Andy Ryan or JK could do with Katie giving her maybe 4 years to get her ready for MMA. Sinead Kavanagh is doing ok with her transition over from boxing and Katie was light years ahead of her in pure boxing fundamentals.

It might change but the ceiling for earnings in MMA is far higher for women than it is currently in boxing.

Lukker-

wonderfullife wrote: »

Will never happen but I'd love to see what Andy Ryan or JK could do with Katie giving her maybe 4 years to get her ready for MMA. Sinead Kavanagh is doing ok with her transition over from boxing and Katie was light years ahead of her in pure boxing fundamentals.

It might change but the ceiling for earnings in MMA is far higher for women than it is currently in boxing.

Taylor should stick to boxing, bit late for her to transition IMO and she's pushing to improve the ruleset for women in boing.

Paully D

Cowboy vs Till confirmed as the main event for Gdansk.

What a change from Santos vs Materla :pac:

MartyMcFly84

The issue people who have professional fights in another art when they transition to MMA is that they almost always have to go straight to pro MMA.

Say a guy has a number of pro boxing or muay thai fights. He is going to have a lot of issues getting matched as and 0-0 MMA fighter, or even getting matched at an amateur level. Chances are they will get matched against someone seasoned, and more than likely at a pro level. These day fighters can have 15-20 ammy fights before going pro. 8-10 years ago in Ireland you just turned pro and that was that with no previous fight experience.

It makes it very difficult to cut your teeth in a new sport when you dont have the option to fight amateur to work things out.

It can be very off putting for someone who is a confident pro level at their art to go into MMA and get tooled by a relative journey man in MMA

Mellor

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

The issue people who have professional fights in another art when they transition to MMA is that they almost always have to go straight to pro MMA.

Say a guy has a number of pro boxing or muay thai fights. He is going to have a lot of issues getting matched as and 0-0 MMA fighter, or even getting matched at an amateur level. Chances are they will get matched against someone seasoned, and more than likely at a pro level. These day fighters can have 15-20 ammy fights before going pro. 8-10 years ago in Ireland you just turned pro and that was that with no previous fight experience.

It makes it very difficult to cut your teeth in a new sport when you dont have the option to fight amateur to work things out.

It can be very off putting for someone who is a confident pro level at their art to go into MMA and get tooled by a relative journey man in MMA

A guy with a string of pro boxing/muay thai shouldn't be anywhere near a 0-0 ammy fight imo. Same goes for a jiu jitsu black belt.
But a 15 fight amateur should be happy to take on a 0-0 Muay Thai fighter as one of his last fights before he turns pro. In the past straight pro was the only option. But the fact ammys have more fights these days benefits the situation imo.

Ronda had 3 or 4 ammy fight before she went pro.

Paully D

Manuwa says he will be fighting in Gdansk. They've really turned that card around.

Villante is the only ranked opponent not matched, so it must be him I'd guess.

cloudatlas

Oh here we go: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057785376

Zero-Cool

Ugh you made me click into after hours

Ultimate Seduction

I am a big McGregor fan and a frequent wanker, but I've wanked long before I heard of UFC. I'm sure there is similar drop off in **** during big soccer, American football games ECT.

cloudatlas

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Ugh you made me click into after hours

Sorry I felt dirty too, but it appeared on the homepage list and I clicked on the title out of curiosity. Have a long hot shower with a scouring brush you'll be fine in a few days.

Eyes Down Field

One of my favorite UFC fighters is RDA, Looking forward to watching him later tonight, He's stepping up a weight class to fight Magny. There is a huge height different between the two me. I feel RDA's best bet is to take him to the ground, take away the height advance, It will be interesting to see how he approches the first exchange

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9qWDCMdUcI

EagererBeaver

RDA will surely try to leg kick the ****e out of Magny the way Larkin did. Larkin absolutely butchered his legs. RDA's last fight was at WW btw.

callaway92

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

One of my favorite UFC fighters is RDA, Looking forward to watching him later tonight, He's stepping up a weight class to fight Magny. There is a huge height different between the two me. I feel RDA's best bet is to take him to the ground, take away the height advance, It will be interesting to see how he approches the first exchange

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9qWDCMdUcI

You know he fought Welterweight against Saffedeine in his win earlier this year too right?

Eyes Down Field

callaway92 wrote: »

You know he fought Welterweight against Saffedeine in his win earlier this year too right?

Yeah forgot about that fight. Was thinking of the Ferguson fight as the last one, but your right he did fight some nobody since then

callaway92

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Yeah forgot about that fight. Was thinking of the Ferguson fight as the last one, but your right he did fight some nobody since then

Ehm... ok

Zero-Cool

Gas stuff out of Mitch

https://twitter.com/MitchClarkeMMA/status/906904440669536256

Zero-Cool

I absolutely cannot wait for this fight! Huge uphill battle for Rose but she can get a sneaky sub I think. No way she wins if she stays standing.

https://twitter.com/UFCEurope/status/907575625908719616

dashoonage

I'll be getting my ticket tomorrow hopefully :P

ricero

Fair play to the ufc. Thats a fantastic fight card, lets just hope it sticks together

cloudatlas

Rose is going to get her ass handed to her.

ianob7

As Zero-Cool already mentioned Rose has no chance on the feet whatsoever in my opinion .. Rose by sub is a possibility however.

That MSG card is shaping up very nicely indeed

maximoose

ianob7 wrote: »

That MSG card is shaping up very nicely indeed

If Holloway v Edgar gets added it'll be an unbelievable card

dashoonage

maximoose wrote: »

If Holloway v Edgar gets added it'll be an unbelievable card

I dont think it can now. That would be 4 titles... we could see aldo and cub land there though!

Ultimate Seduction

Think they should ad another 1 or 2 big fights. At least one of the fights announced already won't go ahead.