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General MMA Chat/News mk2

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    #872
    dashoonage
    Registered Users Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    It will happen when Conor says it can happen.


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    #873
    califano
    Registered Users Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    Im predicting the 1st event will be for servicemen only/mainly.They will water it down in some way anyway.


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    #874
    Awesomeness
    Registered Users Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭Awesomeness


    Seery v horiguchi at UFC Rotterdam. Excellent fight


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    #875
    stephenl15
    Registered Users Posts: 5,885 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    Extremely high ranked opponent for Seery to land, happy days:D


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    #876
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    You just know Bruce lee is going to point fight all night and win a decision,hope im wrong but I doubt it.


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    #877
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,381 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Gamebred wrote: »
    You just know Bruce lee is going to point fight all night and win a decision,hope im wrong but I doubt it.

    Who/What fight are you talking about?


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    #878
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Mellor wrote: »
    Who/What fight are you talking about?

    :pac: Horoguchi v Seery


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    #879
    That_Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Awesomeness wrote: »
    Seery v horiguchi at UFC Rotterdam. Excellent fight

    That is going to be one hell of a fight. Great test for Neil.


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    #880
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    califano wrote: »
    Im predicting the 1st event will be for servicemen only/mainly.They will water it down in some way anyway.


    What makes you think that? I would have thought the 1st event they would put on a really strong card and try to rake in as much money as possible from it. They could put on like a fight week with maybe a FN or TUF finales the night or 2 before the PPV event. Really try to make up for lost time


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    #881
    califano
    Registered Users Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    Devastator wrote: »
    What makes you think that? I would have thought the 1st event they would put on a really strong card and try to rake in as much money as possible from it. They could put on like a fight week with maybe a FN or TUF finales the night or 2 before the PPV event. Really try to make up for lost time

    Just in the bargaining tussle and to be given the licence to justify New York stickyness in the first place. By NY granting it this will be their bringing something to the city so to speak. To make it like the whole thing is a very savory thing indeed!. Likely im wide of the mark but i think NY will have something sneaky into the bargain to want to look good. The whole thing will sound like a fundraiser!.


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    #882
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    califano wrote: »
    Just in the bargaining tussle and to be given the licence to justify New York stickyness in the first place. By NY granting it this will be their bringing something to the city so to speak. To make it like the whole thing is a very savory thing indeed!. Likely im wide of the mark but i think NY will have something sneaky into the bargain to want to look good. The whole thing will sound like a fundraiser!.

    With such a landslide victory I don't know if they would have needed to do much bargaining. From what I understand the reason it wasn't passed so far was down to 1 man whose company is a rival to zuffa which they say is why he kept blockign the vote. Now he's out of the way, they were allowed to vote and we're now here.

    I think with the revenue a UFC event would generate would be more than enough for NY, especially if they do have McGregor on the card.

    All guess work ATM, suppose we'll know better in a few months


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    #883
    Awesomeness
    Registered Users Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭Awesomeness


    Lorenzo said they plan to do a big show. If the do it upstate maybe a bit smaller but if its at MSG I expect it to be up there with the likes of 200.

    Jones and Weidman likely as headliner and co-main.


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    #884
    bur
    Registered Users Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭bur


    Jones for the HW title would be great for their first NY card.


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    #885
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,146 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    califano wrote: »
    Just in the bargaining tussle and to be given the licence to justify New York stickyness in the first place. By NY granting it this will be their bringing something to the city so to speak. To make it like the whole thing is a very savory thing indeed!. Likely im wide of the mark but i think NY will have something sneaky into the bargain to want to look good. The whole thing will sound like a fundraiser!.

    I’d put the chances of this being practically zero.

    They weren’t bargaining for it, this was the first time it made it to a vote at this stage and they won by a huge majority. What they were doing up to this point was educating and putting pressure on those blocking it, they weren’t making concessions (aside from probably telling certain officials that they’d spread the UFC money around the State and not just NYC).

    They’ll be going huge with this event to try to revitilise/energise the market and they’re not going to a) lose massive money on ticket sales and b) distract from the UFC in NYC narrative by switching it to be all about the military. They already have a regular event for the troops and it’s pretty half assed, I cant see them going from that to turning over what is likely to be one of the biggest events they’ve ever had.

    Even if they were to do a huge event for the military, NYC wouldn’t even make sense given that it’s not even an area with a high number of troops or their families are based (especially if compared to the overall population). A massive number would have to travel there and pay for accommodation.


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    #886
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Ariel gone from Fox /UFC in whatever capacity he was, but diasspointed love Ariel on the fox coverage, bit convinient he broke the Diaz/McGregor 2 story now he's gone. More time to focus on MMAFighting now though.


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    #887
    xtal191
    Registered Users Posts: 6,370 ✭✭✭xtal191


    ASOT wrote: »
    Ariel gone from Fox /UFC in whatever capacity he was, but diasspointed love Ariel on the fox coverage, bit convinient he broke the Diaz/McGregor 2 story now he's gone. More time to focus on MMAFighting now though.

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    #888
    lougal88
    Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭lougal88


    ASOT wrote: »
    Ariel gone from Fox /UFC in whatever capacity he was, but diasspointed love Ariel on the fox coverage, bit convinient he broke the Diaz/McGregor 2 story now he's gone. More time to focus on MMAFighting now though.

    He was the first person to break the Mcgregor vs Diaz rematch. My initial thought was that maybe he was not supposed to leak this Information and has been reprimanded?


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    #889
    That_Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    lougal88 wrote: »
    He was the first person to break the Mcgregor vs Diaz rematch. My initial thought was that maybe he was not supposed to leak this Information and has been reprimanded?

    Was listening to the MMA Hour on Monday and he was saying that he isn't in the business of speculation. He's simply reporting on the news given to him and went on to say that he has too much respect for UFC officials to not confirm anything ahead of them.

    Harsh really.


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    #890
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭ASOT


    lougal88 wrote: »
    He was the first person to break the Mcgregor vs Diaz rematch. My initial thought was that maybe he was not supposed to leak this Information and has been reprimanded?

    Yep exactly, it's not the first thing he's been first on either, I would have done the same also to be fair.


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    #891
    martyos121
    Registered Users Posts: 21,390 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    That_Guy wrote: »
    Was listening to the MMA Hour on Monday and he was saying that he isn't in the business of speculation. He's simply reporting on the news given to him and went on to say that he has too much respect for UFC officials to not confirm anything ahead of them.

    Harsh really.

    Harsh how? The way he worded that statement made it seem like it was his decision to leave, I suppose we'll find out the real story soon but I think he's been finding it difficult working at FOX because of the conflict of interests. A major part of his job is breaking news stories about MMA and working with the UFC's main broadcasting partner sort of goes against his ability to do that.

    If it's true that ESPN want to expand their coverage of MMA (don't have any concrete sources on that but it comes up now and again) then he could very well have been on the phone to them recently.

    Ariel was just as relevant to MMA fans before he signed for FOX, I believe him when he says he doesn't really need the job (paraphrasing a bit there but it's essentially the message he was conveying IMO).


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    #892
    maximoose
    Registered Users Posts: 9,202 ✭✭✭maximoose


    martyos121 wrote: »

    If it's true that ESPN want to expand their coverage of MMA (don't have any concrete sources on that but it comes up now and again) then he could very well have been on the phone to them recently.

    Reddit detectives pointed out that Ariel recently followed and was followed back by an ESPN talent producer, so you never know!


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    #893
    martyos121
    Registered Users Posts: 21,390 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    maximoose wrote: »
    Reddit detectives pointed out that Ariel recently followed and was followed back by an ESPN talent producer, so you never know!

    Literally just after seeing that haha, my speculation game is strong. :cool:


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    #894
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    martyos121 wrote: »
    Literally just after seeing that haha, my speculation game is strong. :cool:


    You're some spoofer marty :pac:


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    #895
    martyos121
    Registered Users Posts: 21,390 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Gamebred wrote: »
    You're some spoofer marty :pac:

    My sources confirm that is correct Gamebred.


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    #896
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Brandao popped for weed


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    #897
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    When does Diaz pop for weed?


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    #898
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Gamebred wrote: »
    When does Diaz pop for weed?

    Right after he gets a hit off that mad new bong he got.


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    #899
    lougal88
    Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭lougal88


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    Right after he gets a hit off that mad new bong he got.

    209 mutha-f*cka!! That's wuts up!!


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    #900
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Didn't something go on with Ariel and FOX a few years back? I think it has been a pretty rocky relationship for quite some time now.


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    #901
    John_D80
    Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    Paully D wrote: »
    Didn't something go on with Ariel and FOX a few years back? I think it has been a pretty rocky relationship for quite some time now.

    I have vague recollections of him being vocally critical of the Fox deal that the UFC made. And then all of a sudden he ends up doing work for them.

    Pretty sure it was him anyway.


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