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    #1322
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    I just don't know what to say anymore..It's like Oprah is handing out belts for everyone. Funk me.


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    #1323
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Sure we even have an interim ufc 200 thread until Paully makes the real thing, things are gone out of control.


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    #1324
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,850 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    What if.......OSP wins.......


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    #1325
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Further proof to the idiots who think its a sport where you get what you deserve and titles have any meaning other than commercial advantages.


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    #1326
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    What if.......OSP wins.......



    If OSP beats Jones ill get an OSP tattoo :pac:


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    #1327
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    What if.......OSP wins.......

    The world would go into melt down.


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    #1328
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    ASOT wrote: »
    Sure we even have an interim ufc 200 thread until Paully makes the real thing, things are gone out of control.

    I was actually thinking about that the other day that it's sad that Paully won't? get the official 200 thread....


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    #1329
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    I was actually thinking about that the other day that it's sad that Paully won't? get the official 200 thread....

    It happened the last time, just close that one let him open the official one with the fight card etc, has to be done!


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    #1330
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    ASOT wrote: »
    It happened the last time, just close that one let him open the official one with the fight card etc, has to be done!

    Happened the last time but 200 is a landmark. I doubt the mods will close it.


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    #1331
    martyos121
    Registered Users Posts: 21,390 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Gamebred wrote: »
    If OSP beats Jones ill get an OSP tattoo :pac:

    Screenshotted that just in case. ;)


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    #1332
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    Happened the last time but 200 is a landmark. I doubt the mods will close it.

    Let's start a go fund me to get Paully the 200 thread.


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    #1333
    shrewdness
    Registered Users Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭shrewdness


    If interim titles ever meant much, they don't mean anything now. Everyone knows it's just a no. 1 contender fight. It used to be a way of having a fight headline over another title fight like with 189, but that didn't matter for the Conor-Nate fight! It means they can hype up a big "champion vs. champion" unification fight aswell, but if they keep doing it this often that will lose it's special attraction.

    It's a joke having an interim title fight for this, but Jones is the real champ anyway so I'm not too bothered in that regard. But it's a bit mad seeing OSP in a "title" fight, interim or not. I can't see a situation where he wins but just imagine...


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    #1334
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    ASOT wrote: »
    Sure we even have an interim ufc 200 thread until Paully makes the real thing, things are gone out of control.

    If the UFC200 is the interim thread then is the gambling thread the interim interim unofficial ufc200 thread?


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    #1335
    martyos121
    Registered Users Posts: 21,390 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Don't really mind the interim belt being on the line, it's not a real title and it gives it more of a big fight feel IMO.

    It could also indicate that Cormier could be out for a long time with this injury unfortunately.


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    #1336
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    martyos121 wrote: »
    Don't really mind the interim belt being on the line, it's not a real title and it gives it more of a big fight feel IMO.

    It could also indicate that Cormier could be out for a long time with this injury unfortunately.

    Good point actually. Could be a pretty serious injury. All these interim titles bother me though. It's basically a marketing tool.


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    #1337
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    Good point actually. Could be a pretty serious injury. All these interim titles bother me though. It's basically a marketing tool.

    He has a interosseous membrane injury to his leg, having a look around the Web it seems like a fancy word for a sprain but I could be way off.


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    #1338
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    martyos121 wrote: »

    It could also indicate that Cormier could be out for a long time with this injury unfortunately.


    I think they're expecting the NYC card to be in the final 1/4 of the year(Oct,Nov or Dec). Would DC have the balls to defend against Jones in NYC? I doubt it but it would be a huge fight to put on there


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    #1339
    mdwexford
    Registered Users Posts: 11,279 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    This is a complete joke, why in fcuks name is another interim being created. Especially vs a fighter who doesn't deserve to be within a street of a title fight.


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    #1340
    martyos121
    Registered Users Posts: 21,390 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    Good point actually. Could be a pretty serious injury. All these interim titles bother me though. It's basically a marketing tool.

    That's all it is, but that's why I don't get why people get worked up about it. At the end of the day it's a business and that business belongs to the Fertittas, so they can do whatever they see fit as far as I'm concerned. We still get all the big fights we want to see, and I'm not one who cares about the implications of those fights, I just want to see the best vs. the best.

    I get why people don't like it though, because that sort of thing is important to a lot of people, just not to me.


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    #1341
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭ASOT


    martyos121 wrote: »
    That's all it is, but that's why I don't get why people get worked up about it. At the end of the day it's a business and that business belongs to the Fertittas, so they can do whatever they see fit as far as I'm concerned. We still get all the big fights we want to see, and I'm not one who cares about the implications of those fights, I just want to see the best vs. the best.

    I get why people don't like it though, because that sort of thing is important to a lot of people, just not to me.

    I'm of the same feeling as yourself, I don't care what thwre fighting for it could be a blue Peter badge, aslong as the fights good and we got the big fights that's what matters.


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    #1342
    martyos121
    Registered Users Posts: 21,390 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Devastator wrote: »
    I think they're expecting the NYC card to be in the final 1/4 of the year(Oct,Nov or Dec). Would DC have the balls to defend against Jones in NYC? I doubt it but it would be a huge fight to put on there

    He's not a draw no matter what he says so he'll defend wherever they tell him to and thank them for the cheque after.

    NYC is the right way to go with it if Cormier is healthy by then.


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    #1343
    SureYWouldntYa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    I wonder was the decision to make it an interim title fight made after they knew it was going to be OSP

    Surely Rumble, if he was offered the fight, would have taken it for an interim title


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    #1344
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    martyos121 wrote: »
    That's all it is, but that's why I don't get why people get worked up about it. At the end of the day it's a business and that business belongs to the Fertittas, so they can do whatever they see fit as far as I'm concerned. We still get all the big fights we want to see, and I'm not one who cares about the implications of those fights, I just want to see the best vs. the best.

    I get why people don't like it though, because that sort of thing is important to a lot of people, just not to me.

    I think I need to change my mindset to be honest. The way things have gone with the ufc it is, like you say, all about the business. I just remember the old days where it was good, honest two of the best guys beating the hell out of each other for a title.


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    #1345
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    martyos121 wrote: »
    He's not a draw no matter what he says so he'll defend wherever they tell him to and thank them for the cheque after.

    NYC is the right way to go with it if Cormier is healthy by then.


    OH I know hes not the draw but Im just thinking back to a podcast I remember hearing him on back in December. The question was put to him about defending against JJ and what would he think about it if it was in NY. He started giving out thats hes the champ blah blah blah and why should JJ get the advantages of fighting in his home state and have the crowd behind him blah blah


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    #1346
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    SureYWouldntYa wrote: »
    I wonder was the decision to make it an interim title fight made after they knew it was going to be OSP

    Surely Rumble, if he was offered the fight, would have taken it for an interim title

    I doubt the interim would have mattered to Rumble. The opportunity to beat Jones is better than any plastic belt. He mustn't be ready. To be honest he probably weighs 250lbs


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    #1347
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,819 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Gamebred wrote: »
    If OSP beats Jones ill get an OSP tattoo :pac:

    If you're really serious you'll get a tattoo that says " if mendes had a full camp he would've won"


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    #1348
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    I think I need to change my mindset to be honest. The way things have gone with the ufc it is, like you say, all about the business. I just remember the old days where it was good, honest two of the best guys beating the hell out of each other for a title.
    martyos121 wrote: »
    That's all it is, but that's why I don't get why people get worked up about it. At the end of the day it's a business and that business belongs to the Fertittas, so they can do whatever they see fit as far as I'm concerned.


    I'm a traditionalist sports fan and I want to watch the best compete against the best but you're right, its just about business now, especially as money is increasing. Plenty of examples around other sports.

    "Champions" league in football can have upto 5 teams from 1 league going into the competition. They're even talking about in future teams that have won it getting priority no matter where they finish in their league.

    In the premier league darts it started out with the top 8 ranked players(rankings based on earning over 2 years). A few years ago it was increased to 10 players and only the top 4 ranked players automatically getting in with 6 wild cards split between the promoter & sky, ensuring they can keep their 'big name' players in even if they're playing crap.

    I had another example from another sport which I can't remember anymore :rolleyes::( but basically business is business and they'll scrap the fair side of sports for money


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    #1349
    shrewdness
    Registered Users Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭shrewdness


    SureYWouldntYa wrote: »
    I wonder was the decision to make it an interim title fight made after they knew it was going to be OSP

    Surely Rumble, if he was offered the fight, would have taken it for an interim title

    Apparently Rumble is just after a dental procedure and can't even wear a mouthpiece at the minute.


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    #1350
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    Heres the video of DW announcing and trying to justify the fight.

    Apparently DC only out for upto 6 weeks, so UFC200 would be very possible



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    #1351
    lougal88
    Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭lougal88


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    I think I need to change my mindset to be honest. The way things have gone with the ufc it is, like you say, all about the business. I just remember the old days where it was good, honest two of the best guys beating the hell out of each other for a title.

    At what point do people think it became all about business/money?

    IMO it used to be the best fighters in the division fighting for the belts.


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