Destiny 2.0 Rumours and Gossip

Mitch Connor · 19-05-2017 10:30am

syboit wrote: »

Well, this is the rumour/gossip thread

Hopefully we'll see more at E3, will be interesting to hear more from the streamers that were present yesterday once they get back home.

I know - i was only pointing out where the info originally came from, and that the post it originates from has not been verified by what we have been told or seen so far.

Speculate away - just providing a bit of context to that speculation (where I can).

SolvableKnave · 19-05-2017 10:40am

https://twitter.com/T1gigz/status/865274767452000256

wexdevil · 19-05-2017 11:34am

Really looking forward to playing it on the PC.

Mickeroo · 19-05-2017 11:36am

wexdevil wrote: »

Really looking forward to playing it on the PC.

I'll probably try the beta on there for sure to see how it runs but I'm going to have to stick with Xbox for full release as most of the people I play with will be on there.

Mitch Connor · 19-05-2017 11:42am

Have to say I was shocked when Mrs500Watts said the gameplay reveal was PS4 gameplay. It looks incredible. So incredible I am still not sure she is right! King Gothalion was saying it is PC on his stream yesterday but he wasn't at the event and was basing that on particle effects and things like that being PC graphic card things and not available on the consoles.

FAILSAFE 00 · 19-05-2017 11:47am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Have to say I was shocked when Mrs500Watts said the gameplay reveal was PS4 gameplay. It looks incredible. So incredible I am still not sure she is right! King Gothalion was saying it is PC on his stream yesterday but he wasn't at the event and was basing that on particle effects and things like that being PC graphic card things and not available on the consoles.

After the presentation the audience played the game on PS4 Pro.

wexdevil · 19-05-2017 11:51am

Mickeroo wrote: »

I'll probably try the beta on there for sure to see how it runs but I'm going to have to stick with Xbox for full release as most of the people I play with will be on there.

I'll probably switch back and forth between the two, but yeah going to get some idea how it runs on my turd of a pc but I do plan on getting a new gfx card before it releases on pc.

Mitch Connor · 19-05-2017 11:52am

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

After the presentation the audience played the game on PS4 Pro.

MrWoodhouse - one of the Destiny Reddit Mods was at the reveal and said the PC version looks significantly better than the PS4 version - but said the PS4 version looked great. If the reveal gameplay was PS4 I can’t even begin to think what the PC version looked like (apart from smoother at 60/120fps).

Generic might have some more insight into it - may have got more specific details off MrWoodhouse.

As an aside - Generic, were you running the DetinyReddit twitter last night and replied to me?

SolvableKnave · 19-05-2017 11:58am

May get the Pro. May get it on PC. May be divorced by end September.

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wexdevil · 19-05-2017 12:09pm

apparently night&day difference between console an pc version(so basically like every other game)

dat 60fps tho* though i think its uncapped too

SolvableKnave · 19-05-2017 12:15pm

wexdevil wrote: »

apparently night&day difference between console an pc version(so basically like every other game)

dat 60fps tho*

Is anyone really surprised by this anymore? PC version of any game, if done correctly, should be visually superior. Here's to hoping that Vicarious port the game correctly, so it doesn't end up among all the other bug-ridden ports.

Mickeroo · 19-05-2017 12:15pm

I honestly didn't think the graphics looked much different from the first game in the footage they showed.

wexdevil · 19-05-2017 12:17pm

SolvableKnave wrote: »

so it doesn't end up among all the other bug-ridden ports.

Yeah, I really hope its a decent port. If it was a crappy port I think I'd end up just playing it on consoles.

Thank god we no longer have to go back to orbit to change activities!

SolvableKnave · 19-05-2017 12:19pm

wexdevil wrote: »

Yeah, I really hope its a decent port. If it was a crappy port I think I'd end up just playing it on consoles.

Thank god we no longer have to go back to orbit to change activities!

PS4 will be where I play. Question is OG or Pro?

We may not be going to Orbit anymore, but we will still have a flying ship loading screen, though hopefully not for as long.

TitianGerm · 19-05-2017 12:22pm

SolvableKnave wrote: »

PS4 will be where I play. Question is OG or Pro?

We may not be going to Orbit anymore, but we will still have a flying ship loading screen, though hopefully not for as long.

I wonder what it'll be like on Scorpio? Maybe 60FPS (except in Crucible)

Riesen_Meal · 19-05-2017 12:23pm

emmetkenny wrote: »

I wonder what it'll be like on Scorpio? Maybe 60FPS (except in Crucible)

Doubt it, it will have to maintain multiplayer parity with the standard Xbox One version - same way the Pro has to with the standard PS4, anything that's an advantage just isn't allowed unfortunately...

wexdevil · 19-05-2017 12:24pm

Console wise I'll be playing on the scorpio for sure, I can't see them having it 60fps on scorpio/pro and then having it locked 30fps on the regular consoles.

Though it would be nice!

TitianGerm · 19-05-2017 12:26pm

Fieldog wrote: »

Doubt it, it will have to maintain multiplayer parity with the standard Xbox One version - same way the Pro has to with the standard PS4, anything that's an advantage just isn't allowed unfortunately...

Hence why I said except Crucible, you could lock the frame rate at 30 there. PvE shouldn't matter if it's 30 or 60.

Riesen_Meal · 19-05-2017 12:30pm

emmetkenny wrote: »

Hence why I said except Crucible, you could lock the frame rate at 30 there. PvE shouldn't matter if it's 30 or 60.

Don't get your hopes up...

60 is still an advantage IMO how quickly you can point your gun, and if someone in your party isn't at same it's just not going to work

I don't think they would have it going from 30 - 60 in a game like Destiny, it would be too jarring on the eyes

I'd love to be disproven but I'd bet the house on it...

And I don't bet... :P

Kimbot · 19-05-2017 12:31pm

Also having some users on 30fps and some on 60fps during raids is going to cause issues isnt it?

Riesen_Meal · 19-05-2017 12:34pm

jonnycivic wrote: »

Also having some users on 30fps and some on 60fps during raids is going to cause issues isnt it?

Yeah, with speed of people hitting bosses at same time etc, can't see it working tbh

Good enough explanation here about tick rates :

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_one/comments/59ab19/question_what_is_the_difference_between_a_30hz/

Mickeroo · 19-05-2017 12:41pm

It would work fine, it does in pretty much every game on pc. Outside of pro players it won't make a difference in PvP either.

TitianGerm · 19-05-2017 12:47pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

It would work fine, it does in pretty much every game on pc. Outside of pro players it won't make a difference in PvP either.

My thoughts exactly.

Same goes for PC in Multiplayer. On games you could have guys running medium at 60FPS and others high at 120FPS.

At the end of the day in Destiny a guy with a ****ty internet connection will have more benefit over a guy with a solid connection than someone playing the game at 30 v 60FPS.

Mickeroo · 19-05-2017 12:52pm

Fieldog wrote: »

Yeah, with speed of people hitting bosses at same time etc, can't see it working tbh

Good enough explanation here about tick rates :

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_one/comments/59ab19/question_what_is_the_difference_between_a_30hz/

That's talking about tickrate not fps i think, Destiny only had a 10hz tickrate as far as I know.

SolvableKnave · 19-05-2017 12:55pm

in case anyone was wondering, a Switch release is highly unlikely. :rolleyes:

Mitch Connor · 19-05-2017 12:59pm

wexdevil wrote: »

apparently night&day difference between console an pc version(so basically like every other game)

dat 60fps tho* though i think its uncapped too

but apparently the gameplay reveal was PS4. If thats the case I am more than delighted with what the PS4 version looks like.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 19-05-2017 12:59pm

people are confusing fps with something else.

its how many frames are rendered per second on screen - gives smoother motion.

so if your thumbstick is set to max turn speed in a 30fps game, you're not going to be turning twice as fast in a 60fps games, you just have smoother motion.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 19-05-2017 1:01pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

but apparently the gameplay reveal was PS4. If thats the case I am more than delighted with what the PS4 version looks like.

I think people forget what a gorgeous looking game destiny 1 actually is. Its just that they're getting the chance to properly exploit the artwork now that they dont have to design with ps3 / xbox 360 in mind.

Mitch Connor · 19-05-2017 1:01pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

That's talking about tickrate not fps i think, Destiny only had a 10hz tickrate as far as I know.

THat was only for ammo crates iirc.

Health/position and other stuff that directly effects gameplay were every frame or twice every frame.

EDIT: its every frame.

https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45459/7_This-Week-at-Bungie--11172016

What is Destiny’s network tick rate?
Combat damage is sampled at 30Hz (30 times per second). We track and network how your shots land in every frame of gameplay you can see. You receive updates on systems like scoring or ammo spawn timers from an Activity Host at 10Hz (10 times per second).

Riesen_Meal · 19-05-2017 1:11pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

That's talking about tickrate not fps i think, Destiny only had a 10hz tickrate as far as I know.

10hz, really?

Yeah I know they are different to FPS but it would give you an idea if it can be supported server side - with a 10hz tick rate it definitely won't be...

BF1 has some 45hz servers so that's why I thought it may be possible at first, if it's 10hz you can forget about it

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