Destiny 2.0 Rumours and Gossip

dudeeile

jonnycivic wrote: »

4v4 might turn out to be a good idea but I think people really should hold off and wait until you play the game before knocking it. They may end up bringing back 6v6 or maybe even an 8v8 mode in the future

If anything I would have expected them to up the fireteam sizes for PvP, now I'd be worried that they are going to pack 6v6 into maps designed specifically for 4v4 combat. Absolutely crazy decision to have this disconnect between PvE and PvP but they obviously have their reasons.

gimli2112

dudeeile wrote: »

If anything I would have expected them to up the fireteam sizes for PvP, now I'd be worried that they are going to pack 6v6 into maps designed specifically for 4v4 combat. Absolutely crazy decision to have this disconnect between PvE and PvP but they obviously have their reasons.

Good point. Read this and thought it would be like playing Battlefield on a COD map. 32v32 on nuketown would be fun.

FAILSAFE 00

jonnycivic wrote: »

Also having some users on 30fps and some on 60fps during raids is going to cause issues isnt it?

No.

Gears of war 4 horde mode is 30 FPS on Xbox and it also runs on PC at an unlocked frame rate.

For example I cross play using my PC at 100 FPS with other Xbox players who are playing at 30 FPS. No issues.

Riesen_Meal

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

No.

Gears of war 4 horde mode is 30 FPS on Xbox and it also runs on PC at an unlocked frame rate.

For example I cross play using my PC at 100 FPS with other Xbox players who are playing at 30 FPS. No issues.

Is GoW 4 cross platform?

Must pick that up on PC when I can, loved the first 3, wasn't into the Judgements one though

FAILSAFE 00

Fieldog wrote: »

Is GoW 4 cross platform?

Must pick that up on PC when I can, loved the first 3, wasn't into the Judgements one though

It is.

Everything except the PvP multiplayer for obvious reasons.

Campaign, co-op and horde mode are all cross platform.

My name is URL

dudeeile wrote: »

If anything I would have expected them to up the fireteam sizes for PvP, now I'd be worried that they are going to pack 6v6 into maps designed specifically for 4v4 combat. Absolutely crazy decision to have this disconnect between PvE and PvP but they obviously have their reasons.

I'd love to know what that reason is other than to cater for one cohort of players.

Can't for the life of me understand why they're doing away with 6v6 across the board in Crucible. Why they didn't leave it as is and run seasonal competitive 4v4 modes alongside it is a mystery to me.

Playing 8 man games on maps designed for 12 would be better than playing 12 man games on maps designed for 8 =/

Kimbot

My name is URL wrote: »

I'd love to know what that reason is other than to cater for one cohort of players.

Can't for the life of me understand why they're doing away with 6v6 across the board in Crucible. Why they didn't leave it as is and run seasonal competitive 4v4 modes alongside it is a mystery to me.

Playing 8 man games on maps designed for 12 would be better than playing 12 man games on maps designed for 8 =/

Thats the thing tho, we dont know if the maps are designed for 8 or 12 yet.

Mickeroo

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

It is.

Everything except the PvP multiplayer for obvious reasons. Is Gears not locked to 60fps on Windows 10?

Campaign, co-op and horde mode are all cross platform.

They're actually making the PvP crossplay soon too last I heard (might already have happened).

jonnycivic wrote: »

Thats the thing tho, we dont know if the maps are designed for 8 or 12 yet.

When he announced the 4v4 change last night he said they wanted to be able to design the PvP from the ground up with a specific team size mind (or something along those lines), so they essentially said the maps will be designed for 4v4. From my understanding that was the main reasoning behind having the one team size across the board anyway.

Absolutely no reason they couldn't have a few bigger maps designed for a 6v6 playlist though.

SolvableKnave

Being an ex WoW player, I liked this.

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/865268791374077952

SolvableKnave

https://twitter.com/FrenchinBunmeat/status/865564341080391680

nevelator

Watched a youtube clip of PvP there. I like the addition of the team breakdown and super progression. The fact that they show your location should help make better call-outs ("there a hape of them beside the thing over there" may become a thing of the past).
Also shows who picked up power ammo and where.

SolvableKnave

nevelator wrote: »

Watched a youtube clip of PvP there. I like the addition of the team breakdown and super progression. The fact that they show your location should help make better call-outs ("there a hape of them beside the thing over there" may become a thing of the past).
Also shows who picked up power ammo and where.

You mean, no more Generic asking "Which Inside?" :eek:

SolvableKnave

PC Gamer interview with David Shaw on the PC Version.

Is it still peer-to-peer in terms of the multiplayer? Are there dedicated servers?

It is a complicated typology. We do not have dedicated servers for Destiny 2 on PC.

Generic Dreadhead

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Generic might have some more insight into it - may have got more specific details off MrWoodhouse

I'll ask him. I haven't really been on Reddit etc since we got to Dublin.

Didn't get to watch the reveal until like 10pm by the time I was back in my gaf and settled.

As an aside - Generic, were you running the DetinyReddit twitter last night and replied to me?

Nope. Not me. 90% chance it was your man Fuzzle that we did those raids with

Generic Dreadhead

I think the pairing with Battle.net is a master stroke and a Win - Win - Win.

They get greater control of their games price point
Active Battle.net players will already have some friends through the service ready to team up etc
Since the game will require a Battle.net account and maintain a medium price point, less trolls should hopefully pop up.
Finally Battle.net has a a lot of game types, RTS, Cards, Squad Based PvP etc but it doesn't have a dedicated "twitchy" FPS, so this plugs that gap so t o speak.
Also you will have players get it for PC and perhaps get other Blizzard games then

It works for Bungie, works for Blizzard and works for Activision.

Only downside is you won't see the usual craic where the game is like €15 after 6 months on PC

sniper_samurai

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

I think the pairing with Battle.net is a master stroke and a Win - Win - Win.

They get greater control of their games price point
Active Battle.net players will already have some friends through the service ready to team up etc
Since the game will require a Battle.net account and maintain a medium price point, less trolls should hopefully pop up.
Finally Battle.net has a a lot of game types, RTS, Cards, Squad Based PvP etc but it doesn't have a dedicated "twitchy" FPS, so this plugs that gap so t o speak.
Also you will have players get it for PC and perhaps get other Blizzard games then

It works for Bungie, works for Blizzard and works for Activision.

Only downside is you won't see the usual craic where the game is like €15 after 6 months on PC

Also stricter control over anti cheating policy.

AtticusFinch86

Considering throwing my lot in for the Destiny 2 pre-order. Would I need to own a copy of the original or could I play it as a standalone game? I'd be willing to get the original if it were a pre-requisite

Mitch Connor

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Also stricter control over anti cheating policy.

Probably not. They seem to only be controlling log in and sales. Bungie running the servers and administration of any anti cheat system - no reason (yet) to think they'll be any better this time around.

Mickeroo

AtticusFinch86 wrote: »

Considering throwing my lot in for the Destiny 2 pre-order. Would I need to own a copy of the original or could I play it as a standalone game? I'd be willing to get the original if it were a pre-requisite

It's a completely new game so you don't need the first one.

Mitch Connor

No private pvp match option at the launch of destiny 2. Very odd and disappointing.

Wonder if it will eventually come back as custom matches rather than private matches.

Huge blow to any form of competitive destiny - might not even be possible from the outset. I think this is a huge negative for destiny 2.

AdamD

If true that's shambolic. I'm continually baffled by games being released without private games when 10 years ago every game had it..

OptimusTractor

Mitch Connor wrote: »

No private pvp match option at the launch of destiny 2. Very odd and disappointing.

Wonder if it will eventually come back as custom matches rather than private matches.

Huge blow to any form of competitive destiny - might not even be possible from the outset. I think this is a huge negative for destiny 2.

Strange alright because if they did consult PvP streamers you'd imagine this would be one of the main suggestions.

DeSelby83

I hope that D2 is a little kinder to players who don't have time to grind. Don't know how it would be done but I definitely wont be able to put in half the time I did on D1 but would like to think I can still get good loot and not be expected to grind raids/strikes over and over for a slim chance of getting good gear.
But still very much looking forward to it. D1 was definitely the most fun I've had playing games in years

Riesen_Meal

OptimusTractor wrote: »

Strange alright because if they did consult PvP streamers you'd imagine this would be one of the main suggestions.

Pretty sure some if not all of the online Halo's launched with no custom and private PvP at the start and they always came in via an update, seems strange though in this day and age....

OptimusTractor

Fieldog wrote: »

Pretty sure some if not all of the online Halo's launched with no custom and private PvP at the start and they always came in via an update, seems strange though in this day and age....

Never played any of the Halo games so I don't know myself.

Though I've watched Red vs Blue.

Tazzimus

Finally pre ordered this today. GET HYPE

Wonda-Boy

Ahhh the old gang back together again.....


#JUSTICE4WONDA3OY

syboit

Interesting it was mentioned aswell that the new area European dead zone, has an original chunk of the traveller on the ground from the time it was stopped leaving earth.

wexdevil

Fieldog wrote: »

Pretty sure some if not all of the online Halo's launched with no custom and private PvP at the start and they always came in via an update, seems strange though in this day and age....

I remember playing customs in halo 2 back when it launched and they were definitely in 3 from the get go.

Wonda-Boy

As long as the new game has multiple jumping platforms in a raid then its worth €100 alone, the amount of craic I had with peeps on that section alone either drunk or even worse sober was mental!!!