Looking for suggestions replacement for mira elite 2

patsyrockem

I need to replace my old mira elite 2 electric shower which has finally given up after 12 years. I was going to go for the mira QT but have just seen a negative post about the same shower and this has unnerved me. Can anyone recommend a replacement, I live in an area with fairly good pressure. I also have a water softening system if that makes a difference. Thanks

corkgsxr

What negative? It's too quiet?

patsyrockem

Motor had to be replaced after a few weeks.

corkgsxr

patsyrockem wrote: »

Motor had to be replaced after a few weeks.

That a once off thing or was there more saying it?

Sleeper12

corkgsxr wrote:

That a once off thing or was there more saying it?

It's not a one off. A third of all qt showers we've fitted are quieter, a third are the same noise as the old mira elite and a third are noisier. Some have a very high pitch noise, like a dentist drill. We have a lot of complaints afterwards and a very high level of them needing repair under the warranty. Mira Ireland Mira UK won't release of spare parts price list and I find this worrying
The shower itself is a sturdier build than other Mira showers and could be a good shower once they sort out the pump issues. Remember its only out a few months. I'm looking at it the same way a lot of people look at a new version of Windows. A lot of people won't upgrade till sp1 comes out. The jury is still out on this model.

corkgsxr

Feck. Iv fitted a few and all quieter and Iv yet to have a callback.

Still time will tell

Sleeper12

corkgsxr wrote:

Feck. Iv fitted a few and all quieter and Iv yet to have a callback.

We've fitted over 50 now. Two we ended up putting Triton t90z in, in the end. The owners didn't like the high pitch sound of the motor. They are working on modifying the motor so they know there an issue but at the same thing they are still selling dodgie ones until the problem is fixed.
Hopefully they'll have it sorted in a few months

patsyrockem

Am I better off putting in a T90 instead, are there any issues that I need to be aware of? Have had triton showers before in another house without any issues. Thanks to all for your help.

Sleeper12

patsyrockem wrote:

Am I better off putting in a T90 instead, are there any issues that I need to be aware of? Have had triton showers before in another house without any issues. Thanks to all for your help.

The elite is portrait shaped & triton landscape shaped. Assuming that your shower is tiled behind & you have about 4 inches of free space to the right of your mira then a t90 will go in easy enough without moving the pipe or cable.

Sleeper12

Sorry to say yet another call this morning about a Mira Elite Qt that was fitted in October. Sounds like yet another pump needs replacing.

patsyrockem

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Sorry to say yet another call this morning about a Mira Elite Qt that was fitted in October. Sounds like yet another pump needs replacing.

That's not good, hedging towards an alternative at the moment even though a plumber recommended the QT. I need to check if the triton is going to be suitable.

Sleeper12

patsyrockem wrote:

That's not good, hedging towards an alternative at the moment even though a plumber recommended the QT. I need to check if the triton is going to be suitable.

Triton also do a T900pi. This is the same footprint as the mira elite.

shakeymathuna

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Triton also do a T900pi. This is the same footprint as the mira elite.

My shower,a Mira Elite 2, packed in yesterday and, due to the bad reports re it"s replacement, I'm looking at replacing it with Triton T900PI. When you say that it has the same footprint as the mira does that mean that there is no problems replacing it as regards electricals and plumbing?

I was quoted 292 euro for the Triton by a Cork supplier today.The T80si is available on Amazon for 207 euro.How sure are you that the T80si is one and the same as the T900pi.

Apologies for the longwinded question and thanks for your help.

Sleeper12

shakeymathuna wrote: »

My shower,a Mira Elite 2, packed in yesterday and, due to the bad reports re it"s replacement, I'm looking at replacing it with Triton T900PI. When you say that it has the same footprint as the mira does that mean that there is no problems replacing it as regards electricals and plumbing?

I was quoted 292 euro for the Triton by a Cork supplier today.The T80si is available on Amazon for 207 euro.How sure are you that the T80si is one and the same as the T900pi.

Apologies for the longwinded question and thanks for your help.

I own Dublin's largest independent shower repair company. The Triton T80SI Pumped electric shower is the same as the Triton T900pi. Look out for the word PUMPED
If the Triton T90SR fits in even better

shakeymathuna

Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.

whosedaddy?

Sleeper12 wrote: »

We've fitted over 50 now. Two we ended up putting Triton t90z in, in the end. The owners didn't like the high pitch sound of the motor. They are working on modifying the motor so they know there an issue but at the same thing they are still selling dodgie ones until the problem is fixed.
Hopefully they'll have it sorted in a few months

Hi Sleeper12,
11month on, the question still is - has Mira successfully fixed the motor problem???

/daz

Sleeper12

whosedaddy? wrote:

Hi Sleeper12, 11month on, the question still is - has Mira successfully fixed the motor problem???

A lot of the casings are cracking & breaking now. Some showers have pulled through the screws and are left hanging by the water pipe and electric cable.
It's my opinion that this shower should be removed from the market. They need to go back to the drawing board and start from scratch. Worst shower ever

whosedaddy?

thanks a lot.
I have had casing issues with the Elite ST as well. Their plastic is deffo not the best.. if only the Triton T90sr was a closer match to the ST footprint. (i.e. portrait)

whosedaddy?

got a good deal on the Triton for 240. The noise is no comparison with the old Elite. I'm delighted with the replacement.

smjm

whosedaddy? wrote: »

got a good deal on the Triton for 240. The noise is no comparison with the old Elite. I'm delighted with the replacement.

Any problem fitting it?

whosedaddy?

smjm wrote: »

Any problem fitting it?

A bit of tile cutting and extra elbow fitting to accommodate the different location of the pipe connector. It is a bit awkward when pipe is coming from behind. But got it worked out. Only annoying thing is that the landscape format (and location of pipe) doesn't cover the old fixing holes from the Elite.

Sleeper12

whosedaddy? wrote:

got a good deal on the Triton for 240. The noise is no comparison with the old Elite. I'm delighted with the replacement.

Where can you get them for 240? That is a great price. I'd be interested in a few at that price myself

Sleeper12

whosedaddy? wrote:

A bit of tile cutting and extra elbow fitting to accommodate the different location of the pipe connector. It is a bit awkward when pipe is coming from behind. But got it worked out. Only annoying thing is that the landscape format (and location of pipe) doesn't cover the old fixing holes from the Elite.

Tiny blob of silicone or grout to suit the tile colour and you'll never know the difference

whosedaddy?

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Where can you get them for 240? That is a great price. I'd be interested in a few at that price myself

Got as an online quote from one of the builders providers (Officially advertised at 265). As it ce from he manager the guys on floor couldn't argue it to be a mistake. I think I was just lucky. :-)

Haven't had any coloured silicone at home , temp waterproofing with a bit of clear silicone till I get coloured.

Shefwedfan

Hope it is ok to post up here and pull this back up

Currently renovating a house I bought, doing the finishing touchs now and noticed the ensuite has Mira Elite 2. It doesn't sound great to be honest and looks to be as old as the hills.

Every other house I have been in I had a Triton and in the bathroom in this house there is Triton so probably looking to replace with Triton, also based on history above Mira doesn't look the best.

If I get a T900pi(http://secure.tritonshowers.ie/electric-showers/t900pi-electric-shower.html) are they easy to fit? Are all the pipes etc in same spot?

I have always installed showers myself so just wondering will there be any issues?

I also seen the T80 shower from Triton? Not sure what they are for? Thanks

Sleeper12

Shefwedfan wrote:

If I get a T900pi(

Shefwedfan wrote:

are they easy to fit? Are all the pipes etc in same spot?

Pipes and cable are the same. Both showers are portrait shaped and have roughly the same footprint.
My personal preference would be to fit the Triton t90sr silent shower. This one is landscape shaped but plumbing and cable in the same place. If your shower is tiled behind & you have a few inches to spare on the right hand side of the shower it'll be an easy swap.

Shefwedfan wrote:

I also seen the T80 shower from Triton? Not sure what they are for? Thanks

Mira elite, triton t90 and t900pi are all tank fed showers. T80 is different, it's a mains fed shower

Shefwedfan

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Pipes and cable are the same. Both showers are portrait shaped and have roughly the same footprint.
My personal preference would be to fit the Triton t90sr silent shower. This one is landscape shaped but plumbing and cable in the same place. If your shower is tiled behind & you have a few inches to spare on the right hand side of the shower it'll be an easy swap.

Would love the SR and buying one to replace a T90xr I have. I am just concerned there would be gaps and I am left putting filler in around the shower. Haven't took off the shower yet so might take into that this evening and see how it fits...thanks

tiger57

Hi. Hope someone can help. I have a Mira Elite electric shower, fitted some years ago. There appears to be a leak from the shower, from slight staining evident on the ceiling below. In checking the interior of the shower (as a possible source), I notice a significant blackening of the area surrounding the electric cables. Is this normal? If the shower is in need of replacement, is the Mira Elite QT worth considering or are there still issues with this. Would the Triton T90 SR be a better bet. Could the T90 SR be fitted to replace the original Mira Elite without having to disrupt/re-do the existing electrical and plumbing supply. Sorry for all the questions. Thanks

Sleeper12

tiger57 wrote:

Hi. Hope someone can help. I have a Mira Elite electric shower, fitted some years ago. There appears to be a leak from the shower, from slight staining evident on the ceiling below. In checking the interior of the shower (as a possible source), I notice a significant blackening of the area surrounding the electric cables. Is this normal? If the shower is in need of replacement, is the Mira Elite QT worth considering or are there still issues with this. Would the Triton T90 SR be a better bet. Could the T90 SR be fitted to replace the original Mira Elite without having to disrupt/re-do the existing electrical and plumbing supply. Sorry for all the questions. Thanks

Your electric shower if leaking will leak into the shower or bath. What you are describing is a leak in the tiles or trap but definitely nothing to do with the electric shower
I really don't see this as a shower replacement type of thing but if you do go down that road I'd suggest staying away from the Mira Elite Qt

Shefwedfan

Just as FYI, Triton T90sr is for sale at 250 in woodies

theaceofspies

Hi everyone,
Our Mira Elite 2 packed up today - which Triton option would be best that would avoid moving the existing water feed and screw/wall fittings i.e which Triton has same profile as the Mira Elite 2?
Thanks!

Sleeper12

theaceofspies wrote:

Hi everyone, Our Mira Elite 2 packed up today - which Triton option would be best that would avoid moving the existing water feed and screw/wall fittings i.e which Triton has same profile as the Mira Elite 2? Thanks!

The triton t900pi is almost the same footprint as the mira elite 2. The triton t90sr is a different footprint but is a much quieter shower. Why don't you get a few prices for a professional to supply and fit the t90sr. It might not be as expensive as you think.

Shefwedfan

theaceofspies wrote: »

Hi everyone,
Our Mira Elite 2 packed up today - which Triton option would be best that would avoid moving the existing water feed and screw/wall fittings i.e which Triton has same profile as the Mira Elite 2?
Thanks!

I installed the t90sr to replace the Elite. The wall was tiled. It just had a hole with electric cable and water sticking out.

I was able to connect up all the electrics and nearly had water connected but had to change connection, the plumber was on site anyway so he just connected it. Took him 5 mins.

There is at least 2 visible screw hole left, I need to pull out the wall plugs and just get some filler....but not a bad job in end

The sr is silent....does anyone feel the pressure is less than older models? maybe I just miss the noise

neerb

Hi I only installed a Mira elite last week - re the noise I don't notice much difference it's same as the others . The big problem I Am having is the pressure - the flow is very weak and I understood it has a pump fitted is there anything I can do to fix this ?

Sleeper12

neerb wrote: »

Hi I only installed a Mira elite last week - re the noise I don't notice much difference it's same as the others . The big problem I Am having is the pressure - the flow is very weak and I understood it has a pump fitted is there anything I can do to fix this ?

Not all Mira Elite QT showers are lemons. Fingers crossed you have a good one.
Did you install it yourself or did you use a professional?
Was it a full new installation? or did you replace an old broken electric shower?
What is the make & model of the old shower?

turbostan

Hi Sleeper12
I've been following your interesting posts lately re replacing a Mira Elite 2 with the Triton T90sr.
I'm in the same situation now, and I'm hoping you can advise me please.
I want to get the Triton but I'm just wondering if it will be an easy enough swap from the Mira.
The wall is tiled, and there's 145mm between my old shower and the wall.
Do you think this will be enough space to allow installation of the Triton without too much trouble?
Thanks!

Sleeper12

The mira elite qt is 270mm wide and the triton t90sr is 322mm so you'll have plenty of space

turbostan

Sleeper12 wrote: »

The mira elite qt is 270mm wide and the triton t90sr is 322mm so you'll have plenty of space

Great, thanks for that info ðŸ‘

neerb

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Not all Mira Elite QT showers are lemons. Fingers crossed you have a good one.
Did you install it yourself or did you use a professional?
Was it a full new installation? or did you replace an old broken electric shower?
What is the make & model of the old shower?

Many thanks for your reply
It was s full installation by a qualified bathroom company I had the whole bathroom gutted retiled and replaced all ware . I am having an electrician look at the pressure as it is so low I was very surprised as it has a pump in it .
The model was triton

Sleeper12

An electric shower can heat & pump out around 4 litres of hot water per minute at this time of year. A power shower pumps out previously heated water 10 to 20 litres per minute. Is it possible that you are confusing the two types of showers?
If you can get good pressure with the dial all the way to cold then it's either a faulty element or you are expecting power shower results from an electric shower.
What did the installer say about it? Are they happy with the pressure?

Is it a triton or a mira elite qt? They are two different manufacturers

neerb

Sleeper12 wrote: »

An electric shower can heat & pump out around 4 litres of hot water per minute at this time of year. A power shower pumps out previously heated water 10 to 20 litres per minute. Is it possible that you are confusing the two types of showers?
If you can get good pressure with the dial all the way to cold then it's either a faulty element or you are expecting power shower results from an electric shower.
What did the installer say about it? Are they happy with the pressure?

Is it a triton or a mira elite qt? They are two different manufacturers

Hi - I opted for the electric shower as I wanted the option of always having the option to shower however when i looked into electric showers I understood the Mira elite had a pump in it ( not the same as a pumped shower I know ) . I have used electric ones before and they have been fine however this one is very weak and the head can only flow on one setting ( any of the others ) reduce it to a weak trickle as such .

The shower is a Mira elite qt . I have booked an electrician to look at it however he thinks it might be an issue with the filter I hope it's a simple fix

Sleeper12

neerb wrote:

The shower is a Mira elite qt . I have booked an electrician to look at it however he thinks it might be an issue with the filter I hope it's a simple fix

The filter for the Mira Elite Qt is on the outside of the shower. It's something you could try yourself and may save a call out fee. It's on the bottom left of the shower.
If there is a fault with the shower Mira will repair it for free under their warranty

Metric Tensor

Hi Sleeper. I hope you don't mind me dragging up an old thread and asking you for your expertise!

I just bought got a Mira Elite QT to replace a Mira Elite ST. Fully installed by my plumber today and fitted exactly over the screw holes of my previous Mira which was my reason for getting it.

Unfortunately I didn't read all the bad reviews here before making the purchase!!

Anyway it appears I've been mostly lucky so far -
no cracks, it is very silent and if turned up it will make the water very hot indeed. (I've only had one shower yet so hopefully it will stand the test of time.)

However, I can't help but feeling that it has less power / weaker flow than the ST model it directly replaced. I even put the head of the old one back on to check and I thought it felt weaker than I remember. Im aware that it might well be in my head because the old one is out of service for two weeks and I've been using a different shower in the meantime. But I'm just wondering have you had any similar comments from customers or have you any ideas re how I might improve it?

Thanks.

Sleeper12

Metric Tensor wrote:

Unfortunately I didn't read all the bad reviews here before making the purchase!!

Not all mira elite qt showers are duds. We get weeks with no complaints and then weeks like last week with two noisy motors and one leak.

There is a smaller pump in the Mira Elite Qt. This is why it is quieter than the older models. Smaller pump means that it pumps less water. You'll only notice this with the dial all the way to cold.
When you reduce the flow for hot water you should get the same flow /pressure as your old shower as they are both 9kw showers.

Mira & triton came out with the wider shower head two years ago. I like them but a lot of people feel that they are getting less water. You'll find using the old mira head that the pressure will seem to improve.

Metric Tensor

Thanks Sleeper.

I feared that the smaller quieter pump may be to blame. I thought it felt weaker with hot water even with the old head on it but I could be misremembering - maybe the jet like noise level of my previous ST made it feel like there was more water coming out of it!

Any thoughts on the aerator type shower heads that make the velocity seem higher? Would it be worth investing in one?

Appreciate the help.

Sleeper12

Metric Tensor wrote: »

Thanks Sleeper.

I feared that the smaller quieter pump may be to blame. I thought it felt weaker with hot water even with the old head on it but I could be misremembering - maybe the jet like noise level of my previous ST made it feel like there was more water coming out of it!

Any thoughts on the aerator type shower heads that make the velocity seem higher? Would it be worth investing in one?

Appreciate the help.

They aren't recommended for electric showers as they can sometimes make the water temperature hard to control. Having said that I've seen them work & any homes I'm in they always ask that I don't take away the aerator head, so they must be happy with the results.

It's worth a punt. If it doesn't work out it'll make a nice present or you'll get half your money back on Dundeal or Adverts

Metric Tensor

Spot on. Thanks a mill - appreciate it.

turbostan

Hi Sleeper

As I mentioned earlier, I bought the Triton T90sr and I have to say I'm happy with it in general.
Its quiet and has good water pressure so we like it a lot.
However, there's one thing that bothers us greatly, and that's the time it takes to reheat.
It warms up pretty fast initially for the first user.
But then when its restarted for the next user it runs COLD WATER for ages, up to 4 or 5 minutes, and as you can imagine this feels like even longer during the chaotic morning scramble!
This happens always. It doesn't matter if the gap between showers is 5 mins or 1 hour.
While I understand that they all restart cold for safety reasons or whatever, this is a bit extreme.
Does this sound normal?
It was never like this with any of our previous showers and it's driving us all crazy here!!!

Sleeper12

turbostan wrote:

As I mentioned earlier, I bought the Triton T90sr and I have to say I'm happy with it in general. Its quiet and has good water pressure so we like it a lot. However, there's one thing that bothers us greatly, and that's the time it takes to reheat. It warms up pretty fast initially for the first user. But then when its restarted for the next user it runs COLD WATER for ages, up to 4 or 5 minutes, and as you can imagine this feels like even longer during the chaotic morning scramble! This happens always. It doesn't matter if the gap between showers is 5 mins or 1 hour. While I understand that they all restart cold for safety reasons or whatever, this is a bit extreme. Does this sound normal? It was never like this with any of our previous showers and it's driving us all crazy here!!!

Lots of people have been saying this about all new electric showers in the last year or so. The EU changed the regulations on a TCO inside the shower for safety reasons. Some TCOs can be more sensitive than others. I test for this when I install a shower. If it looks too sensitive I usually replace it with the TCO from the old shower and everyone is happy.

Given triton a buzz 01 6286845 and explain what is happening. Most likely they will replace the TCO under warranty.

turbostan

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Lots of people have been saying this about all new electric showers in the last year or so. The EU changed the regulations on a TCO inside the shower for safety reasons. Some TCOs can be more sensitive than others. I test for this when I install a shower. If it looks too sensitive I usually replace it with the TCO from the old shower and everyone is happy.

Given triton a buzz 01 6286845 and explain what is happening. Most likely they will replace the TCO under warranty.

Thanks for that great information Sleeper, I'll give them a call tomorrow and see what they say. Cheers for that, I'll update here when I hear more

Ronan H

For anyone interested. The Triton T90 SR is reduced from 289 to 239 at the moment in Woodies...

...but if any of you buy them before I come back with my AXA card tomorrow, there'll be war!

R