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New Development Royal Canal Park D15

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10 noriordan78


    I used this crowd <mod snip> It was the dearer of the two I priced up (€200) but seemed more reputable. Found the guy to be good, definitely spotted things I wouldn't have although one or two things have cropped up since which he hadn't noticed (fairly minor).


    P.S. He did point out that the drainage in our garden was awful but didn't include it as part of the snag list as I assume it must not be something that is generally covered. He suggested digging a trench at the bottom of the garden and covering it with rocks. The trench has been dug, I didn't buy enough rocks at the time and haven't gotten around to getting more but it hasn't worked thus far as it is, the garden is still sodden even if it hasn't rained for a few days so worth looking out for.

    cronos wrote: »
    I'm interested in same. Can you please send any suggestions on to me also. Pricing as many options as I can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    Rcp is Dublin City council not fingal.
    The council actually reduced the number of spaces provided during the planning process. The developer had it higher then 1.5 per unit.

    I think whether you experience a problem depends on your own situation and where you are in the development. We have two spaces and are on a side road. Guests park in our space if one of us isn't home. If that's not the case blocking us in or parking on the footpath has been fine if not exactly a perfect solution. Obviously that's not an option if you're on the main roads.

    Maybe I'm overly optimistic but no one I know who lives close to the better public transport lines (Luas & dart) has two cars, it's all only one, often little used. Long term I think the problem will ease when the Luas opens in a year and ease further if they ever build the new train station. Similarly if ALDI opens in the development, a big reason for needing a car for apartment owners is gone.

    I also know the management committee are looking at ways of controlling visitor parking better. No decisions yet as far as I know though.

    Finally there are spaces to be put in at the end of bridge avenue, which were there but removed during construction. That's probably exacerbating the current situation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭janeybaby


    Bruncvik wrote: »
    We are going to call the builders about the ceiling fan tomorrow. It hasn't leaked for a long time, but we got so much water pouring (not dripping) down the tube between the holidays that the fan may have gotten damaged (it was making a nasty grinding noise before we turned it off). So now that the builders are back, we'll be requesting a fix asap.

    Is the issue with the Heron, Ash or both types? Have people had trouble trying to get the builders back to fix the problem at all?

    Also for the people who had problems with the kitchen fixtures - were they replaced/fixed in a speedy timeframe?


  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭Bruncvik


    janeybaby wrote: »
    Is the issue with the Heron, Ash or both types? Have people had trouble trying to get the builders back to fix the problem at all?
    With a single exception (extractor fans, when the entire street was scheduled), we never managed to get the builders to come back to fix anything. There isn't all that much to fix - snagging caught nearly everything - but unless you take a vacation, go into the build site and drag the foreman to your door, they wouldn't even come look at the problem. I did exactly that once, the foreman took notes of the issues, promised a fix, and I've never seen anyone again. Tom, in the office, had promised a fix on a certain day, and when we called the next day, he didn't even know whether the builders came to our place. In our most extreme case, we gave the builders a set of our keys (when they were fixing the extractor fan along the entire street), and those then got lost for nearly three weeks. Tom kept promising the keys the next day, whenever I called, and they never materialized. I ended up sending an e-mail to Ballymore's legal department telling them that we'd notify our insurance company of their responsibility for any theft or damage in the house, and only then the keys were returned to us.

    All that said, those aggravation are absolutely tiny compared to what we would have had if we purchased an older house or apartment. Overall, we're very happy we have the house, so far extremely pleased with its convenience and modern technology, that almost puts it into the 21st century. I don't regret our purchasing decision, but I wish I took into account (and budget) that I'd be completely on my own once I get they keys to the property.
    janeybaby wrote: »
    Also for the people who had problems with the kitchen fixtures - were they replaced/fixed in a speedy timeframe?
    Not for us. I attached handles to all drawers and underside cabinets, which made them optically straighter, and with a single exception, we fixed the rails on the drawers, so that they don't fall off them anymore.


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭nordstrom


    minkey wrote: »
    Hi

    Just two Questions.
    1. I noticed some houses have Satellite Dishes at the front. Is this OK according to the Management Company? For some reason I thought there was something about this not being allowed. Id be interested in just getting a dish or the Free to Air and broadband only rather than having to sign up for a TV contract, just wondering if anyone else has gone down that route or has any tips

    2. Has anyone decided to put a shed in the in back garden. Again I remember reading something in the Management Company guide about the height of the shed not being higher than the fence (dont have the doc to hand to confirm). Again just checking it anyone had issues with this

    Thanks

    This may be too late to help you but...

    1. This is what I did. For about 280 euros you can have someone install a dish (mine is at the rear and not visible) and a saorview aerial. Either they can run the cables directly in to your TV, or if you want more than one tv you can run the cables to the utility room and distribute from there using the cables already installed. I installed a multiswitch in the utility room, this means I can distribute both satellite and terrestrial signals to up to 4 rooms, and have the ability to watch and record at the same time. I did this for future-proofing and it may be overkill for you. Total cost of my installation including one set top box was about 450. I then got Vodafone broadband which I think has 100mb speed, enough to easily stream Netflix or YouTube in hd or 4K even.

    2. You'll be grand with a shed poking up a little bit over the wall


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    janeybaby wrote: »
    Is the issue with the Heron, Ash or both types? Have people had trouble trying to get the builders back to fix the problem at all?

    Also for the people who had problems with the kitchen fixtures - were they replaced/fixed in a speedy timeframe?

    The kitchen people are extremely hard to get in contact with and out to fix things. We had multiple broken drawers and missing shelves plus wrong taps.


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭janeybaby


    Bruncvik wrote: »
    With a single exception (extractor fans, when the entire street was scheduled), we never managed to get the builders to come back to fix anything. There isn't all that much to fix - snagging caught nearly everything - but unless you take a vacation, go into the build site and drag the foreman to your door, they wouldn't even come look at the problem. I did exactly that once, the foreman took notes of the issues, promised a fix, and I've never seen anyone again. Tom, in the office, had promised a fix on a certain day, and when we called the next day, he didn't even know whether the builders came to our place. In our most extreme case, we gave the builders a set of our keys (when they were fixing the extractor fan along the entire street), and those then got lost for nearly three weeks. Tom kept promising the keys the next day, whenever I called, and they never materialized. I ended up sending an e-mail to Ballymore's legal department telling them that we'd notify our insurance company of their responsibility for any theft or damage in the house, and only then the keys were returned to us.

    All that said, those aggravation are absolutely tiny compared to what we would have had if we purchased an older house or apartment. Overall, we're very happy we have the house, so far extremely pleased with its convenience and modern technology, that almost puts it into the 21st century. I don't regret our purchasing decision, but I wish I took into account (and budget) that I'd be completely on my own once I get they keys to the property.


    Not for us. I attached handles to all drawers and underside cabinets, which made them optically straighter, and with a single exception, we fixed the rails on the drawers, so that they don't fall off them anymore.

    Thanks for getting back to me Bruncvik and sorry to be pedantic but do you think it was the quality of the fixtures used being poor or would you say that they were just not installed properly?

    While I take your point on the above being small aggravations, at the same time it doesn't reflect well that there is a serious lack of communication between the builders, Sherry Fitz and Ballymore. Especially considering the substantial amount of money you are handing over for what they are selling as top rated houses. In my view, if that's what is being sold then everything counts, even the small details like how things are installed in a new home.
    I have to say the fact that you had to fix the kitchen up yourself when the house is brand, makes me think the kitchen installs are a bit shoddy despite how they look.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 390 ✭✭tradesman


    Manion, Why did you have to contact the kitchen company to fix things? Surely the builders should have got onto them to sort it out for you as you are their customer!
    All house purchasers please take note - YOU ARE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY for a product that is not up to scratch! Get back onto the person you bought the house from or have been dealing with onsite & get any issues sorted out ASAP. Do not let it drag on. Kick up a fuss. The louder you shout the sooner you will be heard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭fret_wimp2


    Take a short video of the snags.
    Post it on facebook, tagging sherry fitz & the builders. Same on Twitter.
    Post it on the property pin. Put it up here.

    Send an email to Sherry Fitz with links to everywhere. Nothing works at getting attention like bad publicity.

    social media has turned "thats out of warranty" into "no problem, we'l sort that for you right away, apologies for any hassle" for me more than a few times.

    Its very little effort and could make a big difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭RandomAccess


    Those quality issues are a bit of a concern.. But more concerning is the lack of progress in remedying the issues.

    I tried to pm some posters who had positive experiences with solicitors when purchasing in RCP but I didn't get a response, can anyone who fits the bill send me the details of the solicitor they used and the approx amount that was paid for the service.

    Many thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Beans_On


    Does anybody have any info on the new phase and availability for 3 beds/4beds?

    emailed for info last week but no reply yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭Bruncvik


    janeybaby wrote: »
    Thanks for getting back to me Bruncvik and sorry to be pedantic but do you think it was the quality of the fixtures used being poor or would you say that they were just not installed properly?
    I believe they weren't installed well. Now take that with a grain of salt (or a boulder, if you wish) - my previous experience is from assembling IKE furniture. But to me, it appears that the rails for drawers are not installed at the same height on both sides (hence the crooked drawers), or the dividers where the rails are installed are a tad too far apart. Same with the hinges - they may not be precisely attached.

    Out of personal preference, I wish they used a slightly different design for the doors and drawers - I find their edges very sharp and uncomfortable to use, which is why I installed handles. And while we're at it, I'm not overly excited about the materials used in the bathrooms. In fact, if I had the chance to do it again and had extra time before moving in, I'd try to request the house without the kitchen and bathroom furnishings, and had someone else do those for me. As it stands, I estimate we'd be replacing them in 10-15 years' time, instead of the originally expected 20-25 years.
    fret_wimp2 wrote:
    social media has turned "thats out of warranty" into "no problem, we'l sort that for you right away, apologies for any hassle" for me more than a few times.
    I think this thread fulfills some of that function already. I remember seeing suggestions that people don't close on the houses until every last item on their snag list is completed (Ballymore tends to promise fixes after closing on the house). If people follow this suggestion, it may strain the builder financially a little, with a few days' delays in the final payment. If they feel this is hurting them, they'll improve. However, with the current housing situation in Dublin, I still think that these houses are such a good deal that they'll have no problems finding buyers for everything they build.


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭janeybaby


    Well my husband called last week to find out about the new phase going on sale and Sherry Fitz said that there was still 4 remaining units unsold from phase 3, so doesn't look like they are finding buyers pronto for these, seen as they went on sale in September. People are wise enough - probably googling and finding this thread seeing the crap people have had to put up with.

    I know we definitely won't be purchasing one of those new houses for that amount unless all of those small things such as kitchen install, requesting keys back from builders, leaks, exact prices for things etc were 100% done properly. It is so bad for Ballymore and Sherry Fitz to think it's acceptable as well so I hope other potential buyers for next phase proceed with caution after reading all of previous buyers experiences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,335 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    janeybaby wrote: »
    Well my husband called last week to find out about the new phase going on sale and Sherry Fitz said that there was still 4 remaining units unsold from phase 3, so doesn't look like they are finding buyers pronto for these, seen as they went on sale in September. People are wise enough - probably googling and finding this thread seeing the crap people have had to put up with.

    I know we definitely won't be purchasing one of those new houses for that amount unless all of those small things such as kitchen install, requesting keys back from builders, leaks, exact prices for things etc were 100% done properly. It is so bad for Ballymore and Sherry Fitz to think it's acceptable as well so I hope other potential buyers for next phase proceed with caution after reading all of previous buyers experiences.

    I suspect alot of people though are holding out for the next phase as you get a view of the canal and not situated on the main road in and out of RCP rather than those remaining 3 are not desirable.
    That is certainly the boat I am in

    Has anybody any thoughts predictions on what price Herons will be in next phase ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭fret_wimp2


    I suspect alot of people though are holding out for the next phase as you get a view of the canal and not situated on the main road in and out of RCP rather than those remaining 3 are not desirable.
    That is certainly the boat I am in

    Has anybody any thoughts predictions on what price Herons will be in next phase ?

    Phase 2 were 20k up on phase 1. Expect at least that, and probably more, considering the ftb new house scheme and other factors pushing people away from renting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭cronos


    I suspect alot of people though are holding out for the next phase as you get a view of the canal and not situated on the main road in and out of RCP rather than those remaining 3 are not desirable.
    That is certainly the boat I am in

    Has anybody any thoughts predictions on what price Herons will be in next phase ?

    Which are the 3 remaining? What numbers?


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭janeybaby


    I suspect alot of people though are holding out for the next phase as you get a view of the canal and not situated on the main road in and out of RCP rather than those remaining 3 are not desirable.
    That is certainly the boat I am in

    Has anybody any thoughts predictions on what price Herons will be in next phase ?

    I take your point Bandana boy but there are people who wouldn't be in a position but want a new build, therefore left with ones that are 'not desirable'. That, combined with the new ftb incentive, they still haven't sold - you'd have to wonder why given the housing shortage and rent crisis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    Exactly the same thing happened this time last year, 4 or 5 of the first wave (October) Herons were still available when the 2nd phase launched in January. They sold quickly with the 2nd phase of houses. I'd venture that like last years houses they did sell, and then returned to the market because people changed their minds, couldn't secure mortgages etc. December and January being quiet for house sales, difficult to sell aspects, possible buyers being unaware that the houses are available and as Bandana boy says a very enticing next wave about to launch means they haven't resold.

    As for the idea that our buyer experience has been terrible. I can't speak for everyone, only ourselves, but our buyer experience has been wonderful. We haven't had to contend with a leaking vent but any niggling problem we've had has been fixed right away. The problems are smaller then 99% of people buying non-newbuilds will find in their first six months in a house. Yes, everything should be perfect but drawer runners in the kitchen are tiny in the grand scheme of house maintenance. If changing a lock puts you off buying a house, then I'd venture to suggest you don't buy a house. One should always change the locks on any house you buy, no matter the circumstances. You never know who else might have a key even with a thousand reassurances from the seller.

    The house itself is brilliant. No drafts, constant comfortable temperature, always on hot water, bright and sunny, good sized rooms, never hear the neighbours. All around great to live in. The area is great too. All the amenities I could ask for within easy reach. We lived nearby anyway and chose to stay in the area and I can think of at least four sets of neighbours I know who did the same thing. That to me speaks for itself.

    In short, if anyone is reading this thread and taking our minor quibbles as a reason not to buy, don't.
    This is a great development to live in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭janeybaby


    With the greatest of respect, I don't think anybody is using those reasons not to buy these builds. The point being made is more that for a new house, the majority of buyers would expect a lot more polish on the smaller details such as what was mentioned. It seems you bought some time ago though so, potentially the developers/decorators were paying more attention to detail, with another two phases of building & sales to go. I'm not suggesting that is the case but it is possible.

    We also live in the area currently ourselves and are very happy here. In my view however, if we were to buy in the last phase we will be extremely cautious after reading the experiences some buyers have had. First time buyers are new to the whole process and my feeling is that it is unfair to screw them by providing shoddy fixtures/lack of communication etc after handing over their hard earned cash.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29 googlewhack


    Hi! My girlfriend and I are buying a house on bridge avenue and are due to move in next month. Looking forward to it and find comments on this thread very useful!

    I'm a little worried about traffic noise as my ears can be quite sensitive to it! Can any residents on bridge Avenue or royal canal Avenue please let me know your opinions on the level of traffic noise that you can hear from within the houses?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭fret_wimp2


    anyone know the exact house types that are still available?
    there are a few different types of the 4 bed.

    Also anyone know anything about phase 3, like when the houses will be available?

    I asked sherry fitz but they had lttle detail and were more concerned with selling the remaining 4 bedrooms from phase 2.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    I'm unsure if people have realistic expectations of buying a property. There are always issues, you do your snagging and try to catch them. If you buy you will have problems and frustrations. There is a lot of advise on this thread on how to deal with Ballymore and hopefully avoid these issues.

    Anyway, noise level of royal canal avenue can take getting used to. There are buses and trucks using the route that you will hear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭cronos


    Manion wrote: »
    I'm unsure if people have realistic expectations of buying a property. There are always issues, you do your snagging and try to catch them. If you buy you will have problems and frustrations. There is a lot of advise on this thread on how to deal with Ballymore and hopefully avoid these issues.

    Anyway, noise level of royal canal avenue can take getting used to. There are buses and trucks using the route that you will hear.

    I disagree. If you purchase a new product or service you expect it to be fit for purpose. As far as I'm concerned the need for snagging is bad form on the quality of the delivery of the builder. It's fine if what the snagger finds is trivial, however, if they are finding loads of issues or things like kitchen's are just not done properly, that's really not them doing a quality job. Think this allowance for builders doing a bad idea came from the celtic tiger era and it isn't good enough.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,940 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    cronos wrote: »
    I disagree. If you purchase a new product or service you expect it to be fit for purpose. As far as I'm concerned the need for snagging is bad form on the quality of the delivery of the builder. It's fine if what the snagger finds is trivial, however, if they are finding loads of issues or things like kitchen's are just not done properly, that's really not them doing a quality job. Think this allowance for builders doing a bad idea came from the celtic tiger era and it isn't good enough.

    Snagging is around a lot longer than the Celtic tiger. I remember my parents snagging their home in 1996.

    The same thing happens in car production, the dealers have to carry out a PDI check before handing over to the customer.

    Like everything, mistakes can happen but I do agree major items should be picked up by a decent foreman before the new owner gets to snag.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 390 ✭✭tradesman


    Here is the kitchen section of a house I recently snagged. It was not in Royal Canal Park, it was located in D16. In total the house had 237 snags! By the way the wardrobe units were also SCANDALOUS. It's like the builders don't care about what they are giving to the customer. Also the customer if they employ someone to snag the house then they do not have to do it. I often wonder what the finishing foremen / foremen actually do for their wages. Pride in their work seems to have gone out the window. It is a disgrace the way a customer is told the house is ready to snag when there are 237 items wrong with it. If I was the foreman I would not be calling the customer until the house was completely finished & I would be very disappointed if they found 2 or 3 items wrong - I would sack myself!

    KITCHEN:

    KITCHEN UNITS ARE SCANDALOUS.

    1) Door catches on the frame & is damaged at the lock section. Door needs to be replaced.
    2) Skirting board is marked under the window.
    3) Window needs cleaning & the top junction with the frame needs attention.
    4) The radiator to the back of the room is not sitting on the radiator bracket.
    5) Wall fixing holes are showing under the wall light fixing points - see green tape.
    6) LHS door is catching on the other door.
    7) Remove the protective tape from the door frames.
    8) Seal the gaps around both roof windows.
    9) Both window sash frames are damaged under the window handles.
    10) Floor unit is very dirty - paint splashes, mud etc. The top of the unit is loose & the unit appears to be unlevel.
    11) Back socket box (blank cover) above the floor unit is black in colour. Change to match the others.
    12) Drawers have debris left inside.
    13) Fixing caps required in all kitchen units, shelf brackets are damaged, hinge covers are missing.
    14) Sealant required around the gas hob unit.
    15) LHS wall unit beside the hob has been roughly fitted at the lower hinge.
    16) Wall light fitting under the wall unit has damaged the unit when being fitted.
    17) Second hinge arm needed on the top of the small unit & also the small unit overhead the oven.
    18) Door to the utility does not close. Also the door does not open fully to 90 degrees.
    19) Seal the RHS architrave to the wall & paint the RHS edge.
    20) Screw missing on the top hinge of the door.
    21) Seal the tall larder / cooker unit to the wall on both sides.
    22) No shelves fitted to the tall larder unit.
    23) Tall larder unit hits the oven unit frame.
    24) All units are filthy.
    25) Screw fixing caps required.
    26) 1 No. light fitting not working.
    27) Ceiling rose not fitted.
    28) Rear of the island unit is filthy.
    29) Granite worktop overhead the LHS doors is scratched.
    30) Units are filthy.
    31) Hinge cover caps not fitted on both LHS doors to both units.
    32) In the RHS unit the electric box needs fitting properly.
    33) The soft closers need adjusting.
    34) Above the fridge unit the holes need filling & the electric point has been fitted too high.
    35) Water & gas stopcocks are not readily accessible & the areas around these stopcocks requires attention.
    36) Gaps behind the large drawer units need fitting


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    Is that in rcp?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 390 ✭✭tradesman


    No it was a house in D16. Not all houses have that many faults. I have had about 5 that have had over the 200. Most come in anything from 120 - 180 mark. I wish there wasn't as many faults because it takes me longer to snag the house & also type the report afterwards! I was in a house once that had 52 faults & I considered it to be a very well built house which I would have gladly moved into myself the same day. I actually came out of the house & said to myself that man should get a medal for building the house so well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 noriordan78


    Hi,

    I had the guy from KN around today who installed my phoneline. I asked about Bridge Avenue and he said he thought 1-7 were already wired up, wasn't sure about the others but he said if they hadn't been they would be shortly as they're not overly busy this month. You will still need to ring eir to book the installation though.

    I rang eir after he left to ask about broadband and TV. I was told it could take 3-5 working days for it to come up on their system that the phoneline had been installed to move it on but to ring back on Tuesday to see if it had been done by then and then they would be able to process the order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭cronos


    Hi,

    I had the guy from KN around today who installed my phoneline. I asked about Bridge Avenue and he said he thought 1-7 were already wired up, wasn't sure about the others but he said if they hadn't been they would be shortly as they're not overly busy this month. You will still need to ring eir to book the installation though.

    I rang eir after he left to ask about broadband and TV. I was told it could take 3-5 working days for it to come up on their system that the phoneline had been installed to move it on but to ring back on Tuesday to see if it had been done by then and then they would be able to process the order.

    Thank you for asking about bridge avenue. Not sure you mean by 1-7, perhaps 21 to 27? Do you have the phone number and who I need to talk to in Eir to organize that? I could just ring their main line but I've seen people ring multiple times and not get the right person.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 noriordan78


    Sorry wasn't sure of numbers, he referred to the houses being lived in as having been done so guess they're the ones closest to Royal Canal Avenue.

    This was number on an email to ring if changing an appointment 1800 580 500 so I assume it's the one to ring to make one too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    cronos wrote: »
    I disagree. If you purchase a new product or service you expect it to be fit for purpose. As far as I'm concerned the need for snagging is bad form on the quality of the delivery of the builder. It's fine if what the snagger finds is trivial, however, if they are finding loads of issues or things like kitchen's are just not done properly, that's really not them doing a quality job. Think this allowance for builders doing a bad idea came from the celtic tiger era and it isn't good enough.

    You have to have realistic expectations around the hassle you will have. That's not to say you have to cut the builders slack. I've had them back maybe a dozen times and there is no excuse for the way they left the ground floor.

    I do wonder what level of inspection took place before handover as some of the stuff would have been caught by anyone with two eyes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    For those interested it would appear that royal canal avenue broadband is still limited to 8 mb. Eircom claim 20 mb bit that is only if you get no voice call traffic enabled on the line.

    Eircoms line checker will tell you what's available at specific addresses. A few doors down can get 100 mb. As can the houses at the back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭cronos


    kceire wrote: »
    Snagging is around a lot longer than the Celtic tiger. I remember my parents snagging their home in 1996.

    The same thing happens in car production, the dealers have to carry out a PDI check before handing over to the customer.

    Like everything, mistakes can happen but I do agree major items should be picked up by a decent foreman before the new owner gets to snag.

    My profession is software testing. I work with software developers every day. If we gave the customer the software the developers built directly I can assure you that the computer you're working on right now wouldn't work. But companies invest money in doing these things properly as they know that development is a different skill to quality assurance and working to tight deadlines can make developers try to cut corners. Same reason pharma plants have a QA department.

    If you think it's normal for builders to think like this, then you have been conditioned to think it. It's one thing to have a snagger, it's another thing to have obvious snaggs.

    I amn't talking about the RCP guys here. I'm more talking about the construction industry generally. Don't want to continue to take this off topic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    Some anti social behaviour the last two nights along the canal. Two Muppet's going up and down on a motorized skateboard at a 1130. This was extremely loud and audible within the house.

    Seemed to be targeting the new houses as the stopped at one point just to rev the thing outside of the houses.

    Anyone else seen this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭maciektok


    I saw it on wednesday or thursday, These kids live in the RCP i think, I rang the Gardai but they did not show up, I'd say anytime you see it just ring the Gardai and the managment company, Sooner or later they are going to hit a pedestrian with it!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Nhol78


    Can the management company check the cameras around the area, it might be worth asking them if this happens again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭fret_wimp2


    maciektok wrote: »
    just ring the Gardai and the managment company

    Gardai wont do anything about someone revving an engine loudly.
    Theres a bus stop oudisde our apartment in a very reputable Southside location.
    Twice in the past 4 weeks kids have taking to demolishing the bush shelter outside the apartment.

    I rang the gardai each time and although the kids hung around for 20+ minutes drinking and damaging the shelter, no gardai turned up.

    As long as its nothing too serious, try not let it bother you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭fret_wimp2


    Cheeky question but how much were "the swan" 4 bed houses going for in phase 1?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,335 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    fret_wimp2 wrote: »
    Gardai wont do anything about someone revving an engine loudly.
    Theres a bus stop oudisde our apartment in a very reputable Southside location.
    Twice in the past 4 weeks kids have taking to demolishing the bush shelter outside the apartment.

    I rang the gardai each time and although the kids hung around for 20+ minutes drinking and damaging the shelter, no gardai turned up.

    As long as its nothing too serious, try not let it bother you.

    Regular disturbance like that you would be better served talking to your community officer during the week.
    He will get some patrols in place to catch this faster than emergency call outs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭fret_wimp2


    Regular disturbance like that you would be better served talking to your community officer during the week.
    He will get some patrols in place to catch this faster than emergency call outs.

    Thsts useful info, thanks. It's unfortunate that the gardai can't see X number of calls comming in from an area and schedule patrols automatically, instead of hoping people will know to contact their community officer.

    Anywho, that's a discussion for a different thread.

    I'll get onto the community officer


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    Does anyone have the details of the community office.

    I approached the youths last night and the response was threat of assault and property damage. Called the Gardai, who did drive by. The Garda indicated I was the first call despite this going on for over an hour.

    I agree they do appear to be in the development. Too much gets blamed on cabra and finglas, these two looked like local Muppet's.

    Fine welcome to the neighborhood.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭maciektok


    what time was this at?? sorry to hear that. we are here over 6 months and haven't noticed any antisocial behaviour. did you tell the Gardai that you were threatened?? also I think we should speak to the managment company cause at the end of the day we are paying for security


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    11:30 last night. I did inform the Gards which is probably the only reason they came by. Ill get onto the management company now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭fret_wimp2


    From what i read there was a queue when the last phase came up for availability.
    Anyone got any advice for when the next batch come up for offer to help increase chances of getting one?
    Appreciate a PM from anyone who queued for the last release.
    Thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    fret_wimp2 wrote: »
    From what i read there was a queue when the last phase came up for availability.
    Anyone got any advice for when the next batch come up for offer to help increase chances of getting one?
    Appreciate a PM from anyone who queued for the last release.
    Thanks!


    We were in the second phase along the canal. People were queing up from the night beforehand. It apparently was a bit shambolic in terms of the queue and there were numerous resets of the queue list maintained by Sherry Fitz. We arrived about 3 hours before kickoff and there was something like 27 people a head of us for 22 or so houses. Most people however were queuing for the smaller 3 bed houses.


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭janeybaby


    fret_wimp2 wrote: »
    anyone know the exact house types that are still available?
    there are a few different types of the 4 bed.

    Also anyone know anything about phase 3, like when the houses will be available?

    I asked sherry fitz but they had lttle detail and were more concerned with selling the remaining 4 bedrooms from phase 2.

    I was told the following 4 still remain -

    14 Bridge Avenue (390k)
    30 Bridge Avenue (390k)
    8 Bridge Avenue (410k)
    14 Royal Canal Avenue (420k)

    You'll get the map on their website and be able to find out what types these are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    janeybaby wrote: »
    I was told the following 4 still remain -

    14 Bridge Avenue (390k)
    30 Bridge Avenue (390k)
    8 Bridge Avenue (410k)
    14 Royal Canal Avenue (420k)

    You'll get the map on their website and be able to find out what types these are.


    Jaysis that's some price inflation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭cronos


    Manion wrote: »
    Jaysis that's some price inflation.

    I think the Bridge Avenue 390k ones have not gone up much. I'd say they are worth 400k personally. Think that's a smaller increase than average house price increases last year.

    Is the extra 20k on 8 Bridge Avenue for the second parking space? Is that it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭janeybaby


    cronos wrote: »
    I think the Bridge Avenue 390k ones have not gone up much. I'd say they are worth 400k personally. Think that's a smaller increase than average house price increases last year.

    Is the extra 20k on 8 Bridge Avenue for the second parking space? Is that it?

    I'm not sure to be honest Cronos. When we viewed the show houses we were told by Sherry Fitz that it is 10k extra for the additional car park space. So the 20k wouldn't really add up unless they've moved the goal posts and now its 20k for the extra space - I wouldn't be at all surprised. Could also be relative to the new help to buy scheme for first time buyers.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    cronos wrote: »
    I think the Bridge Avenue 390k ones have not gone up much. I'd say they are worth 400k personally. Think that's a smaller increase than average house price increases last year.

    Is the extra 20k on 8 Bridge Avenue for the second parking space? Is that it?


    I looked back through my emails and can see the prices for these are the same as when they were released. They are substantially more expensive than the phase 2 houses though. I suppose that's to be expected as the development matures people are taking less of a risk and demand is more focused.


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