Excessive moderation sucking the fun out of AH

Penny Tration · 06-02-2016 12:21pm

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Well, it is yourself and File making the point that this conduct is rampant throughout AH. So ill wait for actual links before trawling through half the site myself. Shouldn't be too hard to link even a handful if things are that bad.

I said it was. not is. I've clearly said the mods did a good job in clamping down on it.

Sheep Lover · 06-02-2016 12:22pm

Penny Tration wrote: »

I've included in my post what I believe it is - being too immature to debate something without insulting people.

Being a "delicate flower" is also open to interpretation, as our back and forth here is showing.

And I've stated that I believe being intimidated by a computer screen constitutes being a "delicate flower"

Penny Tration · 06-02-2016 12:24pm

Sheep Lover wrote: »

And I've stated that I believe being intimidated by a computer screen constitutes being a "delicate flower"

I think they're intimidated by what's being said to/about them, not by the computer screen.

Sheep Lover · 06-02-2016 12:27pm

Penny Tration wrote: »

I think they're intimidated by what's being said to/about them, not by the computer screen.

Funny, I'm laughing here too. But seriously? Intimidated by what they see on Boards? It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad. Still waiting on those links Penny.

Insect Overlord · 06-02-2016 12:28pm

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Funny, I'm laughing here too. But seriously? Intimidated by what they see on Boards? It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad. Still waiting on those links Penny.

Would you say the same thing to kids getting abusive texts or Snapchats, or to people bullied on the like of Ask.fm? Just words on a screen, yeah?

MadDog76 · 06-02-2016 12:30pm

Beasty wrote: »

I'll turn the question round - do you want AH to be intimidating - essentially putting people who would otherwise post off?

Isn't that the problem though? Posters being "intimidated" by words on a screen and (some) Mods catering to that ....... wtf?

Maybe I'm just not sensitive or easily intimidated, so I struggle to empathise with these highly-strung sensitive souls.

Sheep Lover · 06-02-2016 12:32pm

An File wrote: »

Would you say the same thing to kids getting abusive texts or Snapchats, or to people bullied on the like of Ask.fm? Just words on a screen, yeah?

That's quite different and you know. I'll await the "Ugh but said just words on screen" reply. In this context it's words on screen, unless posters on boards are being bullied, threatened with physical violence etc. In which case I'd like a linked example.

Also, I'd hope the adults on here would have better coping skills in relation to personal abuse than a child would...

Renegade Mechanic · 06-02-2016 12:57pm

MadDog76 wrote: »

Isn't that the problem though? Posters being "intimidated" by words on a screen and (some) Mods catering to that ....... wtf?

Maybe I'm just not sensitive or easily intimidated, so I struggle to empathise with these highly-strung sensitive souls.

You're not alone. My god the ****e I've had said straight to my my face.. All I've done is start laughing!! So when it comes to words on a screen, I can't even begin to feel anything towards them. Good or bad. They're just words. Even if they're horribly nasty, or suspiciously nice, they're likely from someone on the other side of the country.

Mabye I'm slightly autistic or something..

Permabear · 06-02-2016 12:59pm

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Sheep Lover · 06-02-2016 1:01pm

Permabear wrote: »

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Any examples of such severe bullying or personal abuse that someone would take their own life? Specifically in AH if you wouldn't mind.

Permabear · 06-02-2016 1:10pm

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Sheep Lover · 06-02-2016 1:14pm

Permabear wrote: »

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Thought so, as there is none. The Helen Lovejoy types are hopping on the "think of the children!!" argument but still fail to provide links..

MadDog76 · 06-02-2016 1:15pm

Permabear wrote: »

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Maybe they should be wrapped in cotton wool and told not to post in After Hours?

No wait, the rest of us will just post bland opinions and pat ourselves on the back for being so "kind" and "nice" even if it's all built on a lie.

Permabear · 06-02-2016 1:27pm

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Nodin · 06-02-2016 1:43pm

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Well if you find an internet forum "intimidating" you must be quite the delicate flower who should probably steer clear of the internet and maybe the outside world too.

Not everybody fancies being called a "rape apologist" without the proper right of reply.

Penny Tration · 06-02-2016 1:54pm

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Any examples of such severe bullying or personal abuse that someone would take their own life? Specifically in AH if you wouldn't mind.

I'm not going to link anything or get too much into it out of respect for the person targeted, but there was a fairly well known incident of a person who posted in AH being targeted by other boards users, leaving the victim suicidal because of how bad it became.

Many people will know what I'm talking about, but sorry, no links.

Sheep Lover · 06-02-2016 2:07pm

Penny Tration wrote: »

I'm not going to link anything or get too much into it out of respect for the person targeted, but there was a fairly well known incident of a person who posted in AH being targeted by other boards users, leaving the victim suicidal because of how bad it became.

Many people will know what I'm talking about, but sorry, no links.

Might be true but who knows. I've never heard of it and I've never even heard whispers of it. And I've been on boards a while...

Sheep Lover · 06-02-2016 2:08pm

Nodin wrote: »

Not everybody fancies being called a "rape apologist" without the proper right of reply.

Eh?

Nodin · 06-02-2016 2:10pm

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Eh?

It goes on. Most back off rather than put up with it. I don't think they're being "delicate".

Sheep Lover · 06-02-2016 2:15pm

Nodin wrote: »

It goes on. Most back off rather than put up with it. I don't think they're being "delicate".

No idea what this is about, any chance of a link?

Dyr · 06-02-2016 2:59pm

Lads with 2013 and 2014 reg dates going on about how much AH is than it was in the "yorema" days

Get off stage lads, foolin no-one with that carry on.

Sheep Lover · 06-02-2016 3:01pm

Bambi wrote: »

Lads with 2013 and 2014 reg dates going on about how much AH is than it was in the "yorema" days

Get off stage lads, foolin no-one with that carry on.

Er, well in my case this is not my first account.

Dyr · 06-02-2016 3:08pm

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Er, well in my case this is not my first account.

We have a confession lads, take him away.

libelula · 06-02-2016 3:30pm

Bambi wrote: »

Lads with 2013 and 2014 reg dates going on about how much AH is than it was in the "yorema" days

Get off stage lads, foolin no-one with that carry on.

lol noob

oscarBravo · 06-02-2016 3:41pm

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

You're not alone. My god the ****e I've had said straight to my my face.. All I've done is start laughing!!

I know someone who isn't bothered by getting soaked to the skin whenever it rains. Therefore anyone who wears a raincoat is a pathetic weakling.

This idea that, because you personally aren't troubled by what other people say on the Internet, then anyone should be allowed to say anything they want on the Internet, is such a bizarrely self-centred one that it quite frankly surprises me that anyone will say it out loud.

Earthhorse · 06-02-2016 3:47pm

What we've learned from this thread so far: seamus's comedic timing is impeccable; ken may have been the victim of grade inflation; Whoopsa is the greatest human being since Jesu Christi; boards is bigger than reddit and peace is war.

Dial Hard · 06-02-2016 3:50pm

Bambi wrote:

We have a confession lads, take him away.

Re-regging is perfectly allowable as long as it's not done to get around a siteban.

Pink Fairy · 06-02-2016 3:51pm

Dial Hard wrote: »

Re-regging is perfectly allowable as long as it's not done to get around a siteban.

Yeah, on my 5th or 6th now....I'm starting to feel like a cat whis getting to the end of his time

Earthhorse · 06-02-2016 3:58pm

Beasty wrote: »

I'll turn the question round - do you want AH to be intimidating - essentially putting people who would otherwise post off?

And I'll turn the question back round again - does AH need to be all things to all people?

Okay, so you find it less intimidating to post there than you previously did but should the forum cater to your whims? Personally speaking I find it a less interesting place to post than before so am less likely to post there; should it cater to mine?

People can admonish us for romanticising the good old days of After Hours but they're also trying to sell us a pup about the bad old days. There was a problem with repetitive catch phrases and not taking misogyny seriously enough but the way some of you talk AH was a ghetto where it wasn't safe for women to post after dark.

I've never envied the job of AH mods and right now they find themselves at a point where not only is the forum more active than ever but it's populated with people who are more sensitive than ever (not a criticism, just an observation). By deduction that means they have to deal with a more specialised set of complaints and a greater volume of them than ever before.

Ironically, despite this sanitisation of AH, in some ways I think it has gotten worse. The racism you used to encounter in there was casual, cheap and forgettable; now it's more pernicious with the recent debates on immigration in Europe being a case in point. That's likely just a reflection of current affairs to a certain extent but it's worth noting that in the past that class of customer would have been mercilessly slaughtered and laughed out of AH by many of the regulars.

Beasty · 06-02-2016 4:20pm

I'm not saying it needs to be all things to all people

Some say moderation is excessive. Some probably think modding is not harsh enough. I'm saying I prefer it as it is, rather than as it was.

Excessive moderation sucking the fun out of AH

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