Excessive moderation sucking the fun out of AH

Potatoeman

I'll share my last experience of AH moderation.

Mod A (political mod in AH thread) derails thread and people respond.
Mod B (AH mod) threatens to close thread
I point out the thread was derailed by another mod. I get a warning and my post is deleted. I respond to the warning as it is reported as back-seat moderation while my issue was that one mod was threatening to close the tread while another was derailing it. I didn't bother pushing it further at the time because I couldn't be bothered for a warning but don't threaten to close a thread when it's another mod derailing it as it's going to annoy people.

I also noticed another AH mod ban someone for misogyny when the post wasn't really misogynistic.

My issues would be closing threads and even banning people because certain people don't like discussing certain things just discourages certain discussions.

Penn

Potatoeman wrote: »

I'll share my last experience of AH moderation.

Mod A (political mod in AH thread) derails thread and people respond.
Mod B (AH mod) threatens to close thread
I point out the thread was derailed by another mod. I get a warning and my post is deleted. I respond to the warning as it is reported as back-seat moderation while my issue was that one mod was threatening to close the tread while another was derailing it. I didn't bother pushing it further at the time because I couldn't be bothered for a warning but don't threaten to close a thread when it's another mod derailing it as it's going to annoy people.

I also noticed another AH mod ban someone for misogyny when the post wasn't really misogynistic.

My issues would be closing threads and even banning people because certain people don't like discussing certain things just discourages certain discussions.

If Mod A isn't an AH mod then the fact they're a mod is irrelevant. Mods are normal users outside of the forums they mod. So yes, if you were questioning and complaining about it on thread then that's backseat moderation and against the rules.

KERSPLAT!

Pretty sure the issue was AH mod A is taking part in discussion, AH mod B asks everyone, including mod A, to get back on topic, poster above questions/discusses Mod B warning so his post is removed. What is the issue?

Discussing moderation on thread does nothing more than derail a thread even more. This particular thread warning was to bring a thread back on topic, your post was keeping it off topic.

Potatoeman

My issue was with the threat to close the tread. It usually seems like an easy out.

osarusan

I have no issue with AH modding. It's fine.


This thread shows just how dire Feedback is when moderation is the issue though.


We must nearly be at the point where Dav comes along and says 'ENOUGH' and closes the thread.

steddyeddy

For a free site Boards is run very well. We all love each other really.

Nodin

steddyeddy wrote: »

For a free site Boards is run very well. We all love each other really.

We wha?

Cookie_Monster

Penn wrote: »

Admittedly, there are probably few posters who could pull off such a comment, but considering the type of poster seamus is and his usual style of posting, to me it was very obvious he was joking.

It really wasn't...

MadDog76

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

It really wasn't...

I'd be of the opinion that Seamus decided after posting that the post was a "joke" .......... another Poster on here suggested that the post might have been meant to be humorous and Seamus ran with that defence.

K-9

So he was serious in telling them to go back to playing with their train sets. I don't believe ye believe that at all.

Azalea

MadDog76 wrote: »

I'd be of the opinion that Seamus decided after posting that the post was a "joke" .......... another Poster on here suggested that the post might have been meant to be humorous and Seamus ran with that defence.

Yup. Afraid that's how it looked imo.

steddyeddy

In fairness I think it's bs because the original joke maker himself whinged about a far less offensive comment I made to him. I got carded and not even given a chance to explain my intent.

The Moldy Gowl

Azalea wrote: »

Yup. Afraid that's how it looked imo.

You're afraid?
Best get off the internet and go back knitting.

Gowlasauras Rex

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

You're afraid?
Best get off the internet and go back knitting.

Get your ass back to the utd thread Gowl

MadDog76

K-9 wrote: »

So he was serious in telling them to go back to playing with their train sets. I don't believe ye believe that at all.

In fairness K-9, the post was abusive in tone and aggressive in nature ......... there was also nothing even remotely funny in the post.

Dyr

Penn wrote: »

If Mod A isn't an AH mod then the fact they're a mod is irrelevant. Mods are normal users outside of the forums they mod. So yes, if you were questioning and complaining about it on thread then that's backseat moderation and against the rules.

You, me, every other poster and the yorkshire terrier out in the street know that's absolute bollocks. Mods will not step on other mods the majority of the time.

The Moldy Gowl

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Get your ass back to the utd thread Gowl

I'm done with the soccer forum. Perma banned.
I'm over on reddit now.

K-9

I've warned an admin a few times so not sure on that one at all, banned a mod or 2 as well.

The Moldy Gowl

K-9 wrote: »

I've warned an admin a few times so not sure on that one at all, banned a mod or 2 as well.

Admins can't be banned though.
They are coded into boards.



(I believe)

KERSPLAT!

Bambi wrote: »

You, me, every other poster and the yorkshire terrier out in the street know that's absolute bollocks. Mods will not step on other mods the majority of the time.

No, your post is bollocks, as you put it.

A mod received a card in AH last week.

Plenty of mods have received warnings, infractions and bans.

Penn

Bambi wrote: »

You, me, every other poster and the yorkshire terrier out in the street know that's absolute bollocks. Mods will not step on other mods the majority of the time.

I've carded & banned plenty of mods over the years. The fact they were mods of different forums factored into my decision by 0.000diddlysquat%.

If I still had access to the AH mod forum I's be able to find a post from a few months back when one of the new mods came in and said "what do we do about x's (a mod) post?". And I asked "what would you do if it wasn't a mod?". "Probably card them". "Then card them". Then Kersplat came along and said we don't treat mods of other forums any differently to non mods here in AH.

In fact, if anything, I expect mods to have more respect for other forums because they're a mod. That doesn't mean they'd be treated harsher, but certainly no leeway is given because their name is bold. If they can't give another forum the respect they would expect in theirs, then why give the leeway?

Mods have been demodded, in the not so distant past, because of their actions in other forums. So this bollox of them being protected, is, in fact, bollox.

MadDog76

Bambi wrote: »

You, me, every other poster and the yorkshire terrier out in the street know that's absolute bollocks. Mods will not step on other mods the majority of the time.

There's a Mod going through the DRP at the moment because he feels he was treated unfairly by another Mod, ie. he received a Warning for Trolling ........ I haven't seen that happen too often but it obviously does happen.

On the other hand. I expect to have free rein in AH for all of eternity. So I do.

Ken.

Deleted User wrote: »

On the other hand. I expect to have free rein in AH for all of eternity. So I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flt9K8vlJGE

steddyeddy

Jackie Brown is on ITV4! I used to fancy Pam Grier when she had the afro.

Wibbs

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

No, your post is bollocks, as you put it.

A mod received a card in AH last week.

In fact that would be me. I had some issues with it, but it was what it was.

I've banned mods and I've suggested cmods and one admin to head off.

steddyeddy

I've never appealed a card because I deserved most of them. Just small issues really.

What I do notice is some very effective low level trolls who manage to stay under the radar. I imagine it can be hard to deal with them in fairness.

Cabaal

Bambi wrote: »

You, me, every other poster and the yorkshire terrier out in the street know that's absolute bollocks. Mods will not step on other mods the majority of the time.

Except that's not true, if I step out of line I expect to be banned, carded or warned.

Infact many moons back I was banned from after hours for stepping out if line, I acceptted it and moved on.

Sometimes discussions on topics can get a little heated and I've been warned once or twice, each time I know to step back.

If a mod from another forum acts the bollox in a forum I mod I will treat them the same as anyone else. End of.

Neyite

Bambi wrote: »

You, me, every other poster and the yorkshire terrier out in the street know that's absolute bollocks. Mods will not step on other mods the majority of the time.

The very first forum ban I issued as a new mod in PI was to a fellow mod.

I think about 50% of my forum bans were issued to mods. A muppet acting the muppet gets no different treatment from me if they are a mod or not. In fact it pisses me off when a mod causes trouble in a forum because I feel they should know better because they know what kind of behind-the-scenes crap they cause for the mod.