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Fence ownership

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  • 29-01-2016 4:06pm
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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭


    Hello Folks. I hope this is the correct section.

    One of the wooden fence panels of my garden felt down and it is not possible to fix. I would like to replace it and I am wondering if I can share the expenses with the neighbour or maybe he owns it in total.

    Do you have any clues on this? Some supporting documentation to show to the neighbour would be great.

    Thanks a million!


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    mattaiuseire
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 295 ✭✭mattaiuseire


    Speak to your neighbour first and see if they're willing to go halves before you pursue anything else further.


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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭pasquale83


    mattaiuseire wrote: »
    Speak to your neighbour first and see if they're willing to go halves before you pursue anything else further.

    Already done...they rised the ownership subject. They are tenants so they said they are going to talk to the landlord.


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    mattaiuseire
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 295 ✭✭mattaiuseire


    So your neighbour isn't the owner of the fence in any case, so you'll need to speak to their landlord and your own if you have one.

    You can usually tell who owns the fence by checking which side the poles are on. If the poles are on your side it's yours.


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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭pasquale83


    mattaiuseire wrote: »
    So your neighbour isn't the owner of the fence in any case, so you'll need to speak to their landlord and your own if you have one.

    You can usually tell who owns the fence by checking which side the poles are on. If the poles are on your side it's yours.

    Yeah that would be the thing to do...but I need a map to check the borders! What I know is that the fences are facing the back to my garden.


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    mattaiuseire
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 295 ✭✭mattaiuseire


    You should be able to find a deed map if you own your property. Visit http://www.prai.ie/ to get started :)


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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭pasquale83


    mattaiuseire wrote: »
    You should be able to find a deed map if you own your property. Visit http://www.prai.ie/ to get started :)

    I'll have a look! cheers!


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    mattaiuseire
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 295 ✭✭mattaiuseire


    Good luck!


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    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Sounds like the typical concrete post with timber panels fence.
    If so its shared. 50/50 with the Neighbour.

    If the Neighbour is a landlord as him to contribute slightly a bit more and you'll let him get the fence with the receipt in his name and he can offset the full amount for repairs in his tax return.

    I know I'd like that option as a landlord. So just depends if he is willing to play ball or not.


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    Dr Turk Turkelton
    Registered Users Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    Is a wooden fence panel not in the region of €20/25? Would it not be a lot less hassle to just replace it?


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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭pasquale83


    Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »
    Is a wooden fence panel not in the region of €20/25? Would it not be a lot less hassle to just replace it?

    It is 44 euro and I am not able to fit it. So delivered and fitted is 104 euro. I need someone to fit it because the concrete poles are not vertical and there is a little bit more work to do due to some problems with the base of the fence (it is not flat)

    Unfortunately the neighbour is not the owner (I am the owner). I talked to him and he said he is going to talk to the landlord. I would like to talk to the landlord myself but I don't know how to find his contacts (the tenant didn't want to provide his contact details).

    My idea is to share 50/50 the expenses and I think it is a fair deal.

    Next step is to ask the other neighbour if he knows who's the landlord.

    I will keep you posted! Thanks for the suggestions you provided so far :)


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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭pasquale83


    Just a quick update for you folks. I have followed up with the neighbour asking if he has heard something back from the landlord.

    The guy very 'nicely' just told me to get lost.

    I now need to find the owner contact but it is not easy :(


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    D_D
    Registered Users Posts: 308 ✭✭D_D


    Are you really going to track down this man for €52?


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    Michael D Not Higgins
    Registered Users Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    D_D wrote: »
    Are you really going to track down this man for €52?

    It's worth knowing the landlord if another cost arises or if the tenants cause trouble in the future (or possibly future tenants).


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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭pasquale83


    D_D wrote: »
    Are you really going to track down this man for €52?

    It is not for money. It is for the attitude of this people. I don't like being told to get lost (and I am being nice here, don't want to use the specific words I have been told).


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    Michael D Not Higgins
    Registered Users Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    pasquale83 wrote: »
    It is not for money. It is for the attitude of this people. I don't like being told to get lost (and I am being nice here, don't want to use the specific words I have been told).

    Part of the problem is that tenants know the less the landlord is bothered by things from their rented home, the less interference from the landlord, especially with regard to rent increases and inspections.

    It's worth following up with other neighbours to see if they have the details or ask the tenants and tell them you'll say to the landlord that you got it from another source besides them.


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    handlemaster
    Registered Users Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    pasquale83 wrote: »
    It is not for money. It is for the attitude of this people. I don't like being told to get lost (and I am being nice here, don't want to use the specific words I have been told).

    That's the tenants not the LL. Your going to spend all this time and effort to what end to maybe save a few quid.


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