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General Election 2016 - Wicklow

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  • #32
    zoobizoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    Cerco wrote: »
    He was quite impressive this evening when interviewed by Brian Dobson on six one, imho.

    Yep - certainly comes across as a lot more intelligent than some of his close rivals.

    I remember the local SF candidate getting very irate when I asked him what his level of education was...


  • #33
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    "zoobizoo wrote: »
    I remember the local SF candidate getting very irate when I asked him what his level of education was...

    What was the answer?


  • #34
    zoobizoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    What was the answer?


    He said it was none of my business


  • #35
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    zoobizoo wrote: »
    He said it was none of my business

    also known as the: "Where are the bodies" answer.


  • #36
    zoobizoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    He also didn't seem to be impressed when I asked him what he worked at... says on his literature that he's self employed.


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  • #37
    ...And Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    zoobizoo wrote: »
    He also didn't seem to be impressed when I asked him what he worked at... says on his literature that he's self employed.

    Most politicians are uneducated knuckle dragging opportunistic fools, that got into politics because it was handed down through their families, what's the point?


  • #38
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Vote them out, by voting for someone who isn't an uneducated knuckle dragging opportunistic fool. Or a lying cute hoor.
    If you can find one.

    They say somebody can be honest, intelligent, and a politician. But they can only be two out of those three.


  • #39
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,466 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I did have time for Donnelly, but his whole being against narrowing the tax base regarding usc, whilst at the same time also proposing narrowing the tax base by getting rid of water charges is just more of the usual populist nonsense we get from those he's supposed to be different from.


  • #40
    ...And Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    I did have time for Donnelly, but his whole being against narrowing the tax base regarding usc, whilst at the same time also proposing narrowing the tax base by getting rid of water charges is just more of the usual populist nonsense we get from those he's supposed to be different from.

    Ya see this is where they all fall down. That's why George Lee left politics.


  • #41
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,095 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    recedite wrote: »
    He was big on "Yes" for marriage equality.
    (He's a great man for spotting in advance which way populism will swing)

    He was and he wasn't. He got his office painted for it. He spoke at a public meeting for a yes. He didn't do any canvassing. Ferris, Harris, Doyle and Brady all did a lot of canvassing for it.

    As I said before he is great on his own image.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #42
    Eponymous
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    He was and he wasn't. He got his office painted for it. He spoke at a public meeting for a yes. He didn't do any canvassing. Ferris, Harris, Doyle and Brady all did a lot of canvassing for it.

    As I said before he is great on his own image.
    Yeah, he's all about the image... :rolleyes: You're hardly worried he's going to retain his seat while Ferris is cast out into the wilderness, are you? Of all the Liebour seats at risk, her's is probably the most precarious.


  • #43
    drake70
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭drake70


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    He was and he wasn't. He got his office painted for it. He spoke at a public meeting for a yes. He didn't do any canvassing. Ferris, Harris, Doyle and Brady all did a lot of canvassing for it.

    As I said before he is great on his own image.

    He was canvassing where I live.


  • #44
    loyatemu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,026 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    some statistical modelling here: http://www.irishelectionstats.com/constituencies/wicklow/

    TL,DR - Ferris and Timmins out, Brady and Casey in; not much between Timmins and Casey though. Statistical probability of Ferris holding her seat is 0% - maybe she should have distributed more sticks of rock :pac:

    Article here on Timmins meeting the sheeple


  • #45
    BoJack Horseman
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    loyatemu wrote: »
    some statistical modelling here: http://www.irishelectionstats.com/constituencies/wicklow/

    TL,DR - Ferris and Timmins out, Brady and Casey in; not much between Timmins and Casey though. Statistical probability of Ferris holding her seat is 0% - maybe she should have distributed more sticks of rock :pac:

    Article here on Timmins meeting the sheeple

    That isn't using local polling though, is it?
    Just national poll averages.


  • #46
    loyatemu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,026 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    That isn't using local polling though, is it?
    Just national poll averages.

    If it was just doing that Donnelly wouldn't get a seat. The methodology is here


  • #47
    WheatenBriar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭WheatenBriar


    Timmins last time out was given Arklow to canvass that's where a lot of his votes came from
    Huge canvass of the area this time by casey,it looked like an almighty crowd of them in hi vis pat casey jackets working housing estates in the town even though hes from wicklow town , not a local councillor and unheard of really down here prior to last year

    Donnelly went down a few pegs in my book alright with his populism and swing to the left,it just reeks opportunism and not genuine looking

    I'm thinking Brady, Harris and Doyle and Donnelly
    The last seat either Casey,Ferris or Timmins
    It will be sad to see Ferris lose out
    One of the more fascinating constituencies, yet no tv news special on it (not counting Vincent Brownes, joe duffy with pictures affair) yet


  • #48
    Cerco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭Cerco


    WheatenBriar wrote: »
    Huge canvass of the area this time by casey,it looked like an almighty crowd of them in hi vis pat casey jackets working housing estates in the town even though hes from wicklow town , not a local councillor and unheard of really down here prior to last year

    I thought he was from Glendalough area?


  • #49
    hdowney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭hdowney


    Yea Casey is from Glendalough not Wicklow Town. He is on the Wicklow Municiple District board tho for fck knows what reason.

    Someone or someone's people canvassed my door yesterday. They were making an awful unpleasant noisey racket outside. Intimidating like. But they fecked off before anyone got near the door!


  • #50
    WheatenBriar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭WheatenBriar


    Cerco wrote: »
    I thought he was from Glendalough area?

    I meant of course the wicklow municipal area alright


  • #51
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,044 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    BigMoose wrote: »
    As a Donnelly voter last time round, the SD angle bothers me as I dont know what it stands for. Granted I've made no effort to find out either, but doubt I'll be alone there! But he is great at PR and has done will in the media since being elected.
    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    That's what I thought 5 years ago....

    His last 5 years spent as a 'no to everything' populist changed my mind.

    Feel Free to ask them directly about their policies right here

    http://www.boards.ie/ttforum/1741

    I mean its cool to go around the internet shouting bylines like 'populist' when the fact is the most popular party get the seats So that term has no real meaning. Its ludicrous.


    But anyway that aside, if you are really engaged with politics then fire your questions over to them.


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  • #52
    ...And Justice
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    listermint wrote: »
    Feel Free to ask them directly about their policies right here

    http://www.boards.ie/ttforum/1741

    I mean its cool to go around the internet shouting bylines like 'populist' when the fact is the most popular party get the seats So that term has no real meaning. Its ludicrous.


    But anyway that aside, if you are really engaged with politics then fire your questions over to them.

    Your post comes across as biased to Stephen Donnelly, tell me what has he done in since he was elected to the council? Other than pontificate about political things he can't change.


  • #53
    hdowney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭hdowney


    Doesn't sound biased to me. Seems simply like he is pointing out that the Social Democrats have a new presence on boards and give you a public forum to ask them anything you want about their policies/ambitions etc


  • #54
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,095 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    hdowney wrote: »
    Yea Casey is from Glendalough not Wicklow Town. He is on the Wicklow Municiple District board tho for fck knows what reason.

    Because the Muncipal District covers that area. See the attached.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #55
    downey2003
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭downey2003


    Half-cocked wrote:
    Lights at Clare Hall this morning, 2 lanes for straight ahead towards the M50, I'm in the left lane. Lights turn green, off I go. Driver in the right lane can't seem to find his accelerator, within seconds I'm 100 metres ahead of him (and I'm driving a 1.2L Getz, not a drag racer). Slow lorry ahead in left lane, so I decide to move out, put on the indicator, and suddenly Mr Slow Motion floors it to try and stop me. He's still way back and I have all the time in the world to safely move out. So he indulges in a bit of tailgating and then, once we're past the lorry, undertakes me. When we reach the lights at the Clonshaugh junction, same sh1t. I take off and he spends forever getting into gear and moving off like an arthritic snail on sleeping tablets. He was still miles back when I hit the M50, no doubt navigating all those dangerous roundabouts at 10kph in 2nd gear, terrified to hit the gas until there was a long straight stretch ahead.

    WheatenBriar wrote:
    Timmins last time out was given Arklow to canvass that's where a lot of his votes came from Huge canvass of the area this time by casey,it looked like an almighty crowd of them in hi vis pat casey jackets working housing estates in the town even though hes from wicklow town , not a local councillor and unheard of really down here prior to last year


    Casey is NOT from Wicklow. He's base is glendalough. Ye can have him in arklow and welcome!


  • #56
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,095 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    downey2003 wrote: »
    Casey is NOT from Wicklow. He's base is glendalough. Ye can have him in arklow and welcome!

    He needs the strong FF vote from Arklow. Strongest FF vote in the county.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #57
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,044 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    ...And Justice wrote: »
    Your post comes across as biased to Stephen Donnelly, tell me what has he done in since he was elected to the council? Other than pontificate about political things he can't change.

    Appears you don't want to ask the party directly. So you chose to give out to me for showing you their forum.

    The forum where you can get answers to your questions.

    Feels like youd prefer we stick to what we know and love... Thats worked out well for this country hasn't it.. Solid work good poster solid work.


  • #58
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,095 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Folks reminder to play the ball not the man.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #59
    Honestly!
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭Honestly!


    The Fianna Fail candidate Jennifer Cuffe called to my door, told me she was from Charlesland. Is that not the case?


  • #60
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,095 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Honestly! wrote: »
    The Fianna Fail candidate Jennifer Cuffe called to my door, told me she was from Charlesland. Is that not the case?

    She says she is but its hard to say for certain
    A She's a councillor for Killiney/Ballybrack
    B She often says she's living in the Bray/Greystones area
    C She only went on the register of electors since last week

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #61
    drake70
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭drake70


    Honestly! wrote: »
    The Fianna Fail candidate Jennifer Cuffe called to my door, told me she was from Charlesland. Is that not the case?

    According to this article she lives there:
    http://www.thejournal.ie/canvass-with-jennifer-cuffe-2607291-Feb2016/

    A recent move perhaps?


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