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TV licence and licensee

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  • 30-01-2016 1:45am
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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭


    I am renting a room in my own house and at the moment I don't have a TV so I am not paying for the TV licence. However I am planning to buy one.

    Is the licensee supposed to share the TV licence with me?


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    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    <MOD SNIP >

    it applies to any tv regardless of what you use it for the exception would be a monitor with no tuner, ie. not capable of receiving a tv signal.

    OP, if the owner of the house already has a tv they're paying a license fee that covers all tvs on the property, so there would be no need for you to pay, as they're not incurring any extra expense.


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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭pasquale83


    the groutch wrote: »
    not true, it applies to any tv regardless of what you use it for
    the exception would be a monitor with no tuner, ie. not capable of receiving a tv signal.

    OP, if the owner of the house already has a tv they're paying a license fee that covers all tvs on the property, so there would be no need for you to pay, as they're not incurring any extra expense.

    I am the owner and the licensee and myself are sharing all the expenses. So I think it is natural he will share the TV licence as well. Is that correct? At the end of the day it is another expenses like electricity or internet, isn't it?


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    athtrasna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    pasquale83 wrote: »
    I am the owner and the licensee and myself are sharing all the expenses. So I think it is natural he will share the TV licence as well. Is that correct? At the end of the day it is another expenses like electricity or internet, isn't it?

    I am an owner and do not ask my licensee to pay the TV licence. I would consider that to be excessive


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    MouseTail
    Registered Users Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭MouseTail


    Licensees are not on annual leases, so whilst its fair they pay utility bills I think asking them to contribute towards annual bills like this is unfair and a bit mean.


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    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    pasquale83 wrote: »
    I am renting a room in my own house and at the moment I don't have a TV so I am not paying for the TV licence. However I am planning to buy one.

    Is the licensee supposed to share the TV licence with me?

    No. As a rent a room scheme is I operation the home owner is responsible.


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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭pasquale83


    MouseTail wrote: »
    Licensees are not on annual leases, so whilst its fair they pay utility bills I think asking them to contribute towards annual bills like this is unfair and a bit mean.

    Well, if he uses my TV or any other TV in the house I think it is fair for him to pay. And the TV licence can be paid pro-rata.


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    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    pasquale83 wrote: »
    Well, if he uses my TV or any other TV in the house I think it is fair for him to pay. And the TV licence can be paid pro-rata.

    It's a silly argument. If he doesn't pay will you every him?
    If he doesn't get one and the tv inspector knocks on the door he will just point to you as the home owner and the legal implications land at you.


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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭pasquale83


    kceire wrote: »
    It's a silly argument. If he doesn't pay will you every him?
    If he doesn't get one and the tv inspector knocks on the door he will just point to you as the home owner and the legal implications land at you.

    OK, let's put it in this way. I think he is not obliged to share it but would be gentle and fair for him to do it.


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    Man11
    Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭Man11


    the groutch wrote: »
    <MOD SNIP >

    it applies to any tv regardless of what you use it for the exception would be a monitor with no tuner, ie. not capable of receiving a tv signal.

    OP, if the owner of the house already has a tv they're paying a license fee that covers all tvs on the property, so there would be no need for you to pay, as they're not incurring any extra expense.




    A ha it does not now . There's one for ya


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    hdowney
    Registered Users Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭hdowney


    at the moment you don't have a tv, and presumably neither does he. if you get a tv for you to watch you are responsible to pay the licence. if, after you get the tv, the licencee decides its perfectly ok to watch/use the tv as he does the other things in the house then i believe he has a responsibility to pay a share of the licence and any tv subscription pack fees.


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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭pasquale83


    hdowney wrote: »
    at the moment you don't have a tv, and presumably neither does he. if you get a tv for you to watch you are responsible to pay the licence. if, after you get the tv, the licencee decides its perfectly ok to watch/use the tv as he does the other things in the house then i believe he has a responsibility to pay a share of the licence and any tv subscription pack fees.

    That is exactly what I think.


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    SteM
    Registered Users Posts: 6,726 ✭✭✭SteM


    pasquale83 wrote: »
    That is exactly what I think.

    Are you going to make him pay half the property tax too?

    Imo, there are certain bills a home owner has to pay that should not be passed on a tennant on a rent a room scheme. Tv license and property tax.


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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭pasquale83


    SteM wrote: »
    Are you going to make him pay half the property tax too?

    Imo, there are certain bills a home owner has to pay that should not be passed on a tennant on a rent a room scheme. Tv license and property tax.

    I won't force him to pay TV licence. I will ask in case I get a TV. If he is fine with that what's the problem?


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    Arbiter of Good Taste
    Registered Users Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭Arbiter of Good Taste


    Put it this way, why do you want to annoy your licensee over €80?


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    pasquale83
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭pasquale83


    Arbiter of Good Taste wrote: »
    Put it this way, why do you want to annoy your licensee over €80?

    My choice.


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    SteM
    Registered Users Posts: 6,726 ✭✭✭SteM


    pasquale83 wrote: »
    I won't force him to pay TV licence. I will ask in case I get a TV. If he is fine with that what's the problem?

    You have to live with this person, share your home with them. Why take the chance of creating an issue between you both that could sour things for the sake of 6.66 per month?

    You are buying a TV for your home. Did the licensee ask you to buy one? If they didn't then you really have no reason to ask them to pay half the TV license imo.


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    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    pasquale83 wrote: »
    My choice.

    That it is. It's also their choice to up and leave with an hours notice too.


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    JillyQ
    Registered Users Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭JillyQ


    I have never asked any licensees to pay towards the TV licence in my house. As far as I am concerned it is my responsibility to pay for things like that not theres


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    Pkiernan
    Registered Users Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    Some people are miserable.
    Getting up to 12k tax free per year off some lodger you can boot out on the street without notice and you still want to squeeze 80 euro out of him.
    Have some decency.

    Legally the owner of the TV is responsible. So cop on.


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    sassyj
    Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭sassyj


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Some people are miserable.
    Getting up to 12k tax free per year off some lodger you can boot out on the street without notice and you still want to squeeze 80 euro out of him.
    Have some decency.

    Legally the owner of the TV is responsible. So cop on.

    Incorrect, regardless of ownership, whoever is using it is liable. However, having had a licensee in my home at one point, I never looked for them to pay towards the licence. I'd agree with sentiments above.


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