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Why are all the roadsigns spelled wrong in Clare?

  • 30-01-2016 8:17pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,206 ✭✭✭✭


    Ennistymon is spelt Ennistimon on roadsigns
    Lahinch is spelt Lehinch on roadsigns
    Milltown Malbay is spelt Miltown Malbay on roadsigns.

    What's going on?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    The person who did the signs originally assumed he knew how to spell all the places correctly so didn't bother getting a map or any other reference material.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,325 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    The craic.

    Edit: The crack. Silly me...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,206 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Clareman wrote: »
    The person who did the signs originally assumed he knew how to spell all the places correctly so didn't bother getting a map or any other reference material.

    And they just left them then?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    And they just left them then?

    Pretty much, he was a teacher so I guess no-one doubted him. The man is dead now but his legacy will never be forgotten :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭chinwag


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=73752459

    See above link to previous thread on this. Must say, it confuses me too when I'm in Clare, but I love the county as does my OH.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,206 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Can they not change them now? It's kinda embarrassing for the county that we don't even have roadsigns correctly spelled :P


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Can they not change them now? It's kinda embarrassing for the county that we don't even have roadsigns correctly spelled :P

    Could you imagine the uproar "Council spend €X fixing their mistake"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,206 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Clareman wrote: »
    Could you imagine the uproar "Council spend €X fixing their mistake"

    Politics sometimes :P

    The mistake is made, no point fixing it kinda attitude?

    Anyway! Interesting to know why all the signs have the wrong spelling, thanks Clareman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭locum-motion


    Clareman wrote: »
    The person who did the signs originally assumed he knew how to spell all the places correctly so didn't bother getting a map or any other reference material.


    Not sure if your tongue is in your cheek, or if you actually believe this to be the correct answer.

    Unfortunately, the truth is that Lehinch, Killadysart and Ennistimon are actually the official correct spellings for the names of those places, even though the general public calls them Lahinch, Kildysart and Ennistymon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,206 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Lahinch is the official name for Lahinch. Although Lehinch appeared on the roadsigns, there's no evidence of Lehinch before that.

    What about the lack of an "l" In Milltown Malbay?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭locum-motion


    Not sure if your tongue is in your cheek, or if you actually believe this to be the correct answer.

    Unfortunately, the truth is that Lehinch, Killadysart and Ennistimon are actually the official correct spellings for the names of those places, even though the general public calls them Lahinch, Kildysart and Ennistymon.


    To add to the above (I was interrupted last night and had to post before I was really finished):

    The names on roadsigns in Ireland are the same names that appear on Ordnance Survey maps, and they ARE the official names of those places. They are wrong, according to what people actually call them, but they are the official names.

    That much is fact.

    What follows is just my own opinion: I think the reasons that the names recorded are different is that the Ordnance Survey was done by British civil servants in the middle of the 19th cenntury, and they weren't too particular about getting the names right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,435 ✭✭✭squonk


    Whatever about Lehinch/Lahinch, I also remember seeing roadsigns with the Irish vesion of the name, Leacht Ui Crothiur and now this appears to have been shortened to An Leacht. I always assumed that Lehinch was some new 'trendy' spelling of the name as I grew up seeing Lahinch and calling it like that as well!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭Palmach


    It's the Clare dialect.


  • Registered Users Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Jim Martin


    I believe what happened was that the O/S were faced with a dilemma at the time they did the original survey in 1841 when many people were illiterate - they were given numerous spellings & pronunciations & had to make a decision, any decision, so how could they ever be correct?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭SILVAMAN


    squonk wrote: »
    Whatever about Lehinch/Lahinch, I also remember seeing roadsigns with the Irish vesion of the name, Leacht Ui Crothiur and now this appears to have been shortened to An Leacht. I always assumed that Lehinch was some new 'trendy' spelling of the name as I grew up seeing Lahinch and calling it like that as well!

    I remember the Irish on road signs for Lahinch being Leacht Ui Chonchubhair.
    Simple case of dumbing down right across the board from no more mental arithmetic, rote learning of poetry/literature, times tables.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Seems to be mostly in wesht Clare, not much misspelt in North Clare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,206 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Ennistymon isn't west anyway :P
    No one wants it. Hehe


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    East Clare has Scarriff spelled in two different ways on the road signs (not including the Irish), and it appears to be up to everyone to pick whichever they like! The secondary school spells it as Scarriff, and the Medical Center spells it Scariff.

    Here's something on the subject from the Clare Library forum: http://www.ourlibrary.ca/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3652


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭A2LUE42


    Clonlara Cloonlara is another one


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