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Brexit Referendum Superthread

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    #902
    Its dead Jim
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭Its dead Jim


    CFlat wrote: »
    Even Farage is saying at this stage that Remain may nick it.

    He's probably hoping remain wins. He may have to actually bring it in instead of yelling about it from the sidelines. UKIP will be out of a job if he is successful.


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    #903
    Polo_Mint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Polo_Mint


    AllGunsBlazing wrote: »
    Who would that favour?

    Leave


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    #904
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Mr. Cameron? ;)

    Mr Very Exposed To Collapse In Sterling aka Mr Can't Survive Another Recession actually


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    #905
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Nobody knows what will happen. Britain might not survive. The EU might not survive long term either but we'll have lost out only powerful ally in the EU. Brexit is categorically bad for Ireland.

    You've kind of negated the rest of your post with your first sentence.


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    #906
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users Posts: 16,639 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Its dead Jim wrote: »
    He's probably hoping remain wins. He may have to actually bring it in instead of yelling about it from the sidelines. UKIP will be out of a job if he is successful.
    He said it before the count started. Then Sunderland came in with the body blow and it all went mental.


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    #907
    cristoir
    Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭cristoir


    Broxbourne and Kettering voted almost exactly as expected.


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    #908
    quokula
    Registered Users Posts: 3,622 ✭✭✭quokula


    AllGunsBlazing wrote: »
    Who would that favour?

    It would favour leave.

    I live in London and I personally know 4 people who were planning to vote remain and couldn't get to the polling booth because all the trains were ****ed due to the storms - if that is typical across the city then it could be a huge factor.


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    #909
    StringerBell
    Registered Users Posts: 14,175 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Polo_Mint wrote: »
    Leave

    London will be massively Remain but the overall trend of higher turnout in the Leave areas is starting to become a concern, literally no chance of a Leave vote from London though.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #910
    The Backwards Man
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    Harry Angstrom wrote: »
    You've kind of negated the rest of your post with your first sentence.

    Na, nobody knows if it will be good for Britain long term, what we DO know is that it will be very very bad for Ireland short term at least.


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    #911
    Sand
    Registered Users Posts: 12,580 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Na, nobody knows if it will be good for Britain long term, what we DO know is that it will be very very bad for Ireland short term at least.

    Why? All conditions as they exist today will exist tomorrow regardless of the result. There is plenty of time to negotiate Brexit, and the UK will be the ones desperate for terms with the EU. Any service institution looking for an English speaking EU home will move to Dublin. Instability is not something to be sought out but I think the negative impact to Ireland is overdone.


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    #912
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Na, nobody knows if it will be good for Britain long term, what we DO know is that it will be very very bad for Ireland short term at least.

    The ECB/EU decision to throw Ireland to the lions was very bad for us. I doubt we could have anything as catastrophic happen to us again.


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    #913
    Polo_Mint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Polo_Mint


    StringerBell wrote: »
    London will be massively Remain but the overall trend of higher turnout in the Leave areas is starting to become a concern, literally no chance of a Leave vote from London though.

    I know. Im saying that that 4%, That will be a large amount of Remain Votes missing from the total votes around the country


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    #914
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users Posts: 16,639 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Everything hinges on just how well the London Remain vote has held up.


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    #915
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 45,594 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Would be ironic if the Brexiters who wanted Scotland to remain two years ago are thwarted in their efforts to leave by those very Scots.


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    #916
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Sand wrote: »
    Why? All conditions as they exist today will exist tomorrow regardless of the result. There is plenty of time to negotiate Brexit, and the UK will be the ones desperate for terms with the EU. Any service institution looking for an English speaking EU home will move to Dublin. Instability is not something to be sought out but I think the negative impact to Ireland is overdone.

    Eleven EU countries, not including the UK, have more fluent English speakers than our entire population


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    #917
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users Posts: 16,639 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    One supposed polling expert has predicted a Leave vote.

    Nick Sutton ✔ @suttonnick
    John Curtice: At the moment at least the Leave side are favourites to win this Referendum - but there is still a very long way to go. #EUref


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    #918
    Frito
    Registered Users Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Frito


    Think the London remain will be underwhelming, in comparison to a seemingly overwhelming leave response elsewhere.
    Wales are expected to return a leave result overall, despite Wales being a net beneficiary of EU funding and lower immigration levels.
    Cant help think that there are austerity issues clouding the ballots.


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    #919
    Polo_Mint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Polo_Mint


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Na, nobody knows if it will be good for Britain long term, what we DO know is that it will be very very bad for Ireland short term at least.

    I dont really believe that. We will be the only English speaking country left in the EU with a low Corporate tax rate.

    You should/will have alot of companies currently based in the UK wanting to move to Ireland so they have the trade deals with the EU

    Large companies do not wait 2 years to see what happens.

    They will try and get there operations set up ASAP.

    The UK could lose half there financial center quick smart.

    Banks already have said they have plan Bs for Ireland


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    #920
    sink
    Registered Users Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    Sand wrote: »
    Why? All conditions as they exist today will exist tomorrow regardless of the result. There is plenty of time to negotiate Brexit, and the UK will be the ones desperate for terms with the EU. Any service institution looking for an English speaking EU home will move to Dublin. Instability is not something to be sought out but I think the negative impact to Ireland is overdone.

    Currently the EU has tariffs on Agricultural products, therefore making Irish produce more competitive in the UK market. If tariffs are introduced between Ireland and UK and/or UK drops tariffs on non EU agricultural produce it will have a very big impact on Irish exports.

    That's just one example.


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    #921
    Akrasia
    Registered Users Posts: 22,423 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Sand wrote: »
    Why? All conditions as they exist today will exist tomorrow regardless of the result. There is plenty of time to negotiate Brexit, and the UK will be the ones desperate for terms with the EU. Any service institution looking for an English speaking EU home will move to Dublin. Instability is not something to be sought out but I think the negative impact to Ireland is overdone.

    There are potential upsides, but we're pawns in this game, and we will be used by bigger players for their own ends. With Britain in exile, we are utterly marginalised in Europe.


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    #922
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users Posts: 30,560 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Lagan Valley voted 53.1% to leave!


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    #923
    Sand
    Registered Users Posts: 12,580 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Eleven EU countries, not including the UK, have more fluent English speakers than our entire population

    Yep, down to 11 from 12, so an improvement in our position relatively speaking rather than a downturn.


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    #924
    Tigger
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    Akrasia wrote: »
    There are potential upsides, but we're pawns in this game, and we will be used by bigger players for their own ends. With Britain in exile, we are utterly marginalised in Europe.
    thats the thing people ignore or forget or underestimate our relationship with the UK


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    #925
    StringerBell
    Registered Users Posts: 14,175 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Francie Barrett wrote: »
    One supposed polling expert has predicted a Leave vote.

    Nick Sutton ✔ @suttonnick
    John Curtice: At the moment at least the Leave side are favourites to win this Referendum - but there is still a very long way to go. #EUref

    That's not exactly a full blooded prediction is it?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #926
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users Posts: 16,639 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Scotland have voted 60% Remain, 40% Leave so far.


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    #927
    Sand
    Registered Users Posts: 12,580 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Akrasia wrote: »
    There are potential upsides, but we're pawns in this game, and we will be used by bigger players for their own ends. With Britain in exile, we are utterly marginalised in Europe.

    Britain is not exactly a useful ally - it marginalises itself, barely represents its own interests and people are fooling themselves if it views Ireland as anything other than a pawn to be used for its own ends.

    I'm just not seeing the cataclysm for Ireland in the event of a Brexit.


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    #928
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,749 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    When it comes to agriculture our biggest ally in the EU is France.
    But yeah we are a bit too dependent on the UK with our food exports.


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    #929
    poppers
    Registered Users Posts: 622 ✭✭✭poppers


    Do they not have tally men in the uk?


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    #930
    Akrasia
    Registered Users Posts: 22,423 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Ah ****e I was hoping there would be more results by now. I guess I'll find out tomorrow.

    Good night everyone


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    #931
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Francie Barrett wrote: »
    Scotland have voted 60% Remain, 40% Leave so far.

    population of scotland or wales or NI is tiny compared to england
    scotland and wales together is = london


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