Brexit Referendum Superthread

youreadthat

RobertKK wrote: »

Look at the currency moves - the UK doesn't produce enough food to feed itself - food prices will rise.
Irish food exports today compared to yesterday are over 8% more expensive.
The cost of living in the UK will rise a lot.

So the UK has poor food security, this is surely a reason to reject indefinite population increase which results from EU membership.

Harry Angstrom

RobertKK wrote: »

It is ordinary people's lives who will suffer, he can afford the consequences.

It was the ordinary people of Britain who voted to leave.

J Mysterio

Whats the ****ing story with the head of leave being a german anyway? Muppet.

RobertKK

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

As I said; short-term pain, long-term gain.

The UK is a small market compared to the EU market. UK is in serious danger of having their currency downgraded according to the business channels which would remove Sterling as a reserve currency.
They voted to be poorer.

NikoTopps

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

It was the ordinary people of Britain who voted to leave.

England & Wales*

The people of Scotland and the North Of Ireland voted to Remain!

corny

RobertKK wrote: »

Look at the currency moves - the UK doesn't produce enough food to feed itself - food prices will rise.
Irish food exports today compared to yesterday are over 8% more expensive.
The cost of living in the UK will rise a lot.

The Brits weakened their currency to close to parity with the euro to make exports cheaper in 2009. You're conclusions are flawed. Currency depreciation for them isn't a death sentence. They export you know.

anothernight

Enzokk wrote: »

You have to wonder about the quality of UK workers if a person can get a job over someone when English is not their first language.

There's a labour shortage in many highly skilled sectors.

AllGunsBlazing

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

It was the ordinary people of Britain who voted to leave.

Yeah, but they're tattooed, knuckle draggers. Apparently.

Peist2007

Bigger drop in the pound than on Black Wednesday in 1992 apparently

AllGunsBlazing

NikoTopps wrote: »

England & Wales*

The people of Scotland and the North Of Ireland voted to Remain!

Nicola Sturgeon must be beside herself right now with excitement.

RobertKK

corny wrote: »

The Brits weakened their currency to close to parity with the euro to make exports cheaper in 2009. You're conclusions are flawed. Currency depreciation for them isn't a death sentence. They export you know.

They also import.

They won't be in a single market this time .

laugh

corny wrote: »

The Brits weakened their currency to close to parity with the euro to make exports cheaper in 2009. You're conclusions are flawed. Currency depreciation for them isn't a death sentence. They export you know.

They import more than they export you know.

RobertKK

Banks down 10% plus.

Enzokk

anothernight wrote: »

There's a labour shortage in many highly skilled sectors.

Its still a not great for the UK though. If they make it harder for people to obtain visas to work in the UK these skilled people may just work in other EU countries rather than the UK. So there will be a bigger shortage of skilled labour and you will still have your own population not able/willing to do the work that those immigrants are doing. It could just be that the UK population doesn't want to work for minimum wage and prefer benefits, how this has anything to do with the EU is beyond me though.

The_Valeyard

Well, this is going to have consequences

Jimmy Garlic

Reichskanzler Merkel must be foaming at the mouth. Wouldn't want to be around her this morning.

NikoTopps

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Nicola Sturgeon must be beside herself right now with excitement.

I'm the exact same!

Éire agus Albain abú!

Harry Angstrom

Peist2007 wrote: »

What are you basing this "long term gain" prediction on? Can you also be specific?

The UK can now negotiate trade deals with markets outside of the EU without any Franco/German interference. They've got their borders back, and they don't have to kowtow to EU directives and regulations. They can now stand or fall by their own decisions without Angela Merkel sticking her oar in.

RobertKK

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

It was the ordinary people of Britain who voted to leave.

and over a million less voted to stay.

The leave voters were self harmers who also harmed millions of remain voters. They will all lose from this vote.

Enzokk

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

The UK can now negotiate trade deals with markets outside of the EU without any Franco/German interference. They've got their borders back, and they don't have to kowtow to EU directives and regulations. They can now stand or fall by their own decisions without Angela Merkel sticking her oar in.

If they want to trade with the EU they will have to kowtow to EU regulations. Unless they don't want to trade with the EU their companies will have the same rules and regulations if they sell to the EU.

laugh

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

The UK can now negotiate trade deals with markets outside of the EU without any Franco/German interference. They've got their borders back, and they don't have to kowtow to EU directives and regulations. They can now stand or fall by their own decisions without Angela Merkel sticking her oar in.

Guess what 2 countries appear in their top 5 trade partners, one of them is their biggest trade partner.

NikoTopps

Enzokk wrote: »

If they want to trade with the EU they will have to kowtow to EU regulations. Unless they don't want to trade with the EU their companies will have the same rules and regulations if they sell to the EU.

And if they join the EEC they'll have all the fees of the EU but with absolutely zero say in any laws.

Harry Angstrom

Enzokk wrote: »

If they want to trade with the EU they will have to kowtow to EU regulations. Unless they don't want to trade with the EU their companies will have the same rules and regulations if they sell to the EU.

We'll see. The UK are in a far better position to play hard ball with the EU than most other countries.

RobertKK

Enzokk wrote: »

If they want to trade with the EU they will have to kowtow to EU regulations. Unless they don't want to trade with the EU their companies will have the same rules and regulations if they sell to the EU.

Exactly, Brazil can only export beef into Europe that has been produced under EU regulations, and they got into serious trouble when they were found to be defying the rules.

RobertKK

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

We'll see. The UK are in a far better position to play hard ball with the EU than most other countries.

They really don't.

Enzokk

NikoTopps wrote: »

And if they join the EEC they'll have all the fees of the EU but with absolutely zero say in any laws.

Absolutely baffling that they decided to vote to leave in truth. Who in their right mind would vote to abide by rules not set by yourself when you had a say in those rules before.

anto77

Just woke up....wow, when going to bed remain camp were all very smugly confident....huge win for farage, plunge protection teams across the world will be busy today,,,,sack the pollsters!

BlaasForRafa

RobertKK wrote: »

The Euro has lost 2% against the dollar, going to the US later in the year, hope no catastrophe happens with Brexit.

Yeah this is f****n with my US vacation plans too, I hope the euro doesn't completely tank against the dollar.

RobertKK

Marine Le Pen is celebrating.

BlaasForRafa

Professor John Curtice on bbc.co.uk

One of the key messages of the opinion polls was that graduates were much keener on remaining than those with few, if any, qualifications. This is also clearly reflected in the geographical pattern of the vote.

In those places with most graduates the average level of support for Remain was 58% (typified by high Remain votes in Edinburgh, Oxford, and Cambridge) whereas in those with fewest graduates it was just 39%.

So, effectively the idiots won the day. Stupid, reactionary, emotional positions won the argument. A shameful day for the UK really.