Election poll: how are you voting in the General Election?

Scofflaw

oscarBravo wrote: »

Over-thinking STV is similar to over-thinking CAO preferences.

Who would you most like to see elected? Give them your number 1. Who would your second preference be? Give them number 2. And so on. If you would rather not see someone elected, don't give them a preference. It really is that simple.

Well, it depends on whether you have a preference among the people you'd rather not see elected - you might not be keen on candidate A being elected, but you'd rather him than candidate B. In that case you should still give A a preference, because your vote would still elect A over B even if none of the people you want elected make it.

As long as you have a preference, you should use it.

cordially,
Scofflaw

SarahBM

I genuinely cannot make up my mind.

FalconGirl

Apologies, it may have been posted earlier but what time are polling stations open tomorrow?

Jack Killian

FalconGirl wrote: »

Apologies, it may have been posted earlier but what time are polling stations open tomorrow?

Think it's 7am

charlie14

FalconGirl wrote: »

Apologies, it may have been posted earlier but what time are polling stations open tomorrow?

From 7 am until 10 pm. No excuse for you not to vote early and often

Frank Bullitt

I wish I could be at home to vote for this.

Just don't make a balls of it lads.

Jack Killian

Gintonious wrote: »

I wish I could be at home to vote for this.

Just don't make a balls of it lads.

What would you view "making a balls of it" as ?

Frank Bullitt

Jack Killian wrote: »

What would you view "making a balls of it" as ?

Fianna Fail doing well.

mojesius

I would vote SD if they had a candidate running here. So 1st preference is SF, then green party. That's it.

Jack Killian

Gintonious wrote: »

Fianna Fail doing well.

Never, EVER, thought I'd be saying this (and I don't believe it enough to give them a vote, and even then I couldn't vote for their local candidate) but at least there's a small chance that FF have learnt their lesson. FG get more obnoxious and arrogant and deluded every time they're on TV or radio.

Would still prefer a Dáil - yes, a whole Dáil, not just government - with only SDs, Ind Alliance and some of the better independents, with NONE of the main 4 in sight.

By my reckoning we'd have maybe one TD for every county if we only kept the decent ones.

Grudaire

mojesius wrote:

I would vote SD if they had a candidate running here. So 1st preference is SF, then green party. That's it.

For what it's worth unless you're somewhere that the Green candidate is in contention your vote would do more as #1 Green, #2 Sinn Féin because the greens need every #1 to get funding. Your #2 will still go to the Shinner (this argument doesn't work everywhere)

charlie14

Gintonious wrote: »

I wish I could be at home to vote for this.

Just don't make a balls of it lads.

I certainly will not.

I will be voting to do as much damage as I possibly can to both FG and Labour.

You could even look on it wiyh you not being home to vote as a double whammy

Frank Bullitt

charlie14 wrote: »

I certainly will not.

I will be voting to do as much damage as I possibly can to both FG and Labour.

You could even look on it wiyh you not being home to vote as a double whammy

Great way to vote.

Jack Killian

Gintonious wrote: »

Great way to vote.

He's just returning the favour

Frank Bullitt

Jack Killian wrote: »

He's just returning the favour

No need to return favours, thanks.

charlie14

Gintonious wrote: »

Great way to vote.

Works for me

Frank Bullitt

charlie14 wrote: »

Works for me

Hopefully the poll with this thread represents tomorrows voting a bit.

K-9

Grudaire wrote: »

For what it's worth unless you're somewhere that the Green candidate is in contention your vote would do more as #1 Green, #2 Sinn Féin because the greens need every #1 to get funding. Your #2 will still go to the Shinner (this argument doesn't work everywhere)

Was listening to the Irish Times podcast and they made a point that voting by giving a "no hoper" a 1 and continuing on is better than giving a poll topper one as your vote will definitely get transferred. That's the way I voted last time and it worked well, I didn't give Pearse Doherty a transfer because I knew he'd top the poll anyway, if it was tighter I would.

There's probably only 3 candidates I actually want to vote for but I'll try to transfer strategically as best I can. Green, Shiels Independent and 1 FF candidate. After that I'm not pushed much at all!

charlie14

Gintonious wrote: »

Hopefully the poll with this thread represents tomorrows voting a bit.

With Greens on almost 8% ?

Representative poll alright

Frank Bullitt

charlie14 wrote: »

With Greens on almost 8% ?

Representative poll alright

Sorry, I was referring to how FF are doing.

K-9

Gintonious wrote: »

Hopefully the poll with this thread represents tomorrows voting a bit.

Hopefully not as we'll be back here again in a couple of months!

Greens and SD's over represented with FF way under and SF slightly under as well surprisingly enough. SD seems to be taking the softer left vote.

charlie14

Gintonious wrote: »

Sorry, I was referring to how FF are doing.

Not worried about how FF are doing.

If you believe this poll has any accuracy you cannot be to happy with a combined FG/Lab vote of 37% ?

Gonna be a fair few seats short on that.

Necro

I'll be unashamedly voting FG #1, Labour #2, FG #3 and FG #4. That's it. Happy with the current lot and believe they deserve another term.

mojesius

Grudaire wrote: »

For what it's worth unless you're somewhere that the Green candidate is in contention your vote would do more as #1 Green, #2 Sinn Féin because the greens need every #1 to get funding. Your #2 will still go to the Shinner (this argument doesn't work everywhere)

Interesting point, thanks. In Dublin West and honestly, i really can't tell how this one's going to play out. From what i've been reading O'Gorman (greens) has an outside chance.

Centaur

Grudaire wrote: »

For what it's worth unless you're somewhere that the Green candidate is in contention your vote would do more as #1 Green, #2 Sinn Féin because the greens need every #1 to get funding. Your #2 will still go to the Shinner (this argument doesn't work everywhere)

I know someone who once gave their #1 vote to a no hoper to help them get their deposit back. They ended up getting elected.

Macha

Centaur wrote: »

I know someone who once gave their #1 vote to a no hoper to help them get their deposit back. They ended up getting elected.

I suppose that's why s/he said it only works if the Green candidate isn't in with a chance, which is the vast majority I'd say.

Grudaire

mojesius wrote:

Interesting point, thanks. In Dublin West and honestly, i really can't tell how this one's going to play out. From what i've been reading O'Gorman (greens) has an outside chance.

Sure Donnolly is totally safe - O'Gorman needs the votes more

But yeah my logic wouldn't apply here

FreudianSlippers

mojesius wrote: »

Interesting point, thanks. In Dublin West and honestly, i really can't tell how this one's going to play out. From what i've been reading O'Gorman (greens) has an outside chance.

If I lived in Dublin West I'd give O'Gorman my #1. I am acquainted with him personally (although not well) and he seems like a very nice guy, PhD in EU law as well... so very intelligent and seems well-meaning. No pushover from what I understand... with him in opposition it wouldn't be a waste IMO.

inocybe

Well I arrived at my polling station to be handed a list of candidates I'd never heard of - apparently the geography of the county has been changed and I'm in a different constituency. Very pissed off as i didn't know what anyone stood for so I voted green. Next time I won't waste my petrol voting for somewhere I don't feel part of.

323

Didn't expect to be home , but job fell through so may actually vote for the first time in a general election.
Still confused as ever. If I do bother to vote, will try make sure no transfer can end up with FG, FF or SF. Number of independents I guess.

Wanderer78

323 wrote:

Didn't expect to be home , but job fell through so may actually vote for the first time in a general election. Still confused as ever. If I do bother to vote, will try make sure no transfer can end up with FG, FF or SF. Number of independents I guess.

Welcome to the world of voting. Best of luck with your choices and please do keep it up

BoJack Horseman

inocybe wrote: »

Well I arrived at my polling station to be handed a list of candidates I'd never heard of - apparently the geography of the county has been changed and I'm in a different constituency. Very pissed off as i didn't know what anyone stood for so I voted green. Next time I won't waste my petrol voting for somewhere I don't feel part of.

What constituency are you in?

Francie Barrett

Galway West

1. Naughton (FG)
2. Kyne (FG)
3. O'Mahoney (FG)
4. Grealish (IND)
5. Daveron (Renua)
6. Nolan (Lab)

No one else will get anything from me.

I really am trying to drum a bit of support up for the present government, especially in light of FG being expected to do poorly. I am stunned at the Fianna Fáil surge. These people cannot be allowed back into government - they will bankrupt the country!

Wanderer78

Francie Barrett wrote:

I really am trying to drum a bit of support up for the present government, especially in light of FG being expected to do poorly. I am stunned at the Fianna Fáil surge. These people cannot be allowed back into government - they will bankrupt the country!

One could say the same about fg to I'm afraid

Ozymandius2011

Just voted as follows in Wexford:

Wallace 1
Lloyd (DDI) 2
Foxe (Ind) 3
Moloney (Ind) 4
Green candidate 5
SD Kelly 6
Carthy (Ind) 7
Dwyer (Ind ex SF) 8

Jack Killian

Done here

1. SD
2. Ind
3. AAA
4. Green

5 - 11 no preference

MajorMax

OK So here goes. I'll be voting Fine Gael because there's no viable alternative

Fianna FAIL have brought this country to it’s knees twice in my lifetime, they should be branded as a criminal organisation and outlawed.

Sinn Fein are a populist party who’s policies change to reflect whatever they think will make them more popular. Their fiscal policy is laughable. They’re in power in the North, they get £5 billion a year from the British Government and they st...ill can’t balance the books

Renua. Their policies are taken directly from the 1950s. They’d like to return us to Develara’s vision of a nation of comely wenches dancing at the crossroads

Labour. There’s a lot to admire about Labour, they made tough decisions knowing full well that they would bear the brunt of the public backlash. They sacrificed their safe seats for the good of the country. But I probably won’t vote for them because I think they’ll be pretty much wiped out

AAA. Champagne socialists who are very vocal in what they oppose but haven’t offered any realistic alternatives, except that if we “eat the rich” everything will be better

Social Democrats. I honestly don’t know enough about this party to comment

Independents. A waste of a voye. Pure gombeen politics with their eyes fixed firmly on what they can wangle for their area at the expense of everyone else. Parish pump politicians

Walter H Price

First in the polling station at 7 am on the button this morning.

1st Molloy, Renua - Dublin Fingal

2nd and 3rd preferences to Reilly and Farrell Fine Gael

No preferences to Sinn Fein (IRA) or any of the loony Left, Anti Profit, we wont pay for anything brigade.

Wanderer78

MajorMax wrote: »

....there's no viable alternative....

theres always alternatives! i really wish thatcherism went to the grave with herself

Irish_rat

1. Brendan Griffin - FG
2. Jimmy Deenihan - FG
3. Kevin Murphy - Ind
4. Arthur Spring - Labour
5. Brian Finucane - PBP

Zubeneschamali

Green no hoper, fg no hoper, labour could get in, local fg, remote fg, local ind, other sane ind, ff no hoper, ff sure thing

nothing for sf, aaa, catholic lunacy party, or various crackpots

Jack Killian

MajorMax wrote: »

OK So here goes. I'll be voting Fine Gael because there's no viable alternative

:
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Social Democrats. I honestly don’t know enough about this party to comment

Oh the irony..... :rolleyes:

Independents. A waste of a voye. Pure gombeen politics with their eyes fixed firmly on what they can wangle for their area at the expense of everyone else. Parish pump politicians

Horrible over-generalisation.

Godge

Jack Killian wrote: »

Done here

1. SD
2. Ind
3. AAA
4. Green

5 - 11 no preference

Might well be a wasted vote.

Wanderer78

Godge wrote: »

Might well be a wasted vote.

no vote is a wasted vote

Jack Killian

Godge wrote: »

Might well be a wasted vote.

Trademark FG arrogance; even more obvious by the fact that "your party" got a vote and yet you still sneered at it.

Centaur

Macha wrote: »

I suppose that's why s/he said it only works if the Green candidate isn't in with a chance, which is the vast majority I'd say.

You never can tell. Nobody outside of his own party gave this guy much of a chance. Roger Garland ended up being the first Green TD elected to Dáil Éireann.

josip

Why are FF doing so poorly in this poll, yet were in the mid 20's nationally earlier this month?
Are FF voters less likely to be boards members?

Grudaire

Centaur wrote:

You never can tell. Nobody outside of his own party gave this guy much of a chance. Roger Garland ended up being the first Green TD elected to Dáil Éireann.

Fair point, although I can offer good odds against a lot of Green candidates around the country.
Many green candidates are running to offer an alternative option with no expectation of winning.

It's important that people can demonstrate that they want a party that cares about the planet with their first preference but also not waste the vote like in first past the post systems.

hytrogen

1 indy
2 FG
3 Greens
4 FG
5 indy
6 lab
... that's all folks, I was about to say no Lab but thought Alex White needed the wooden spoon over the New Nuns, SF or Mary White which, btw, she was spotted within the 100m limit of the polling station...
Time for a fishy Friday supper now!

sjb25

1 Indy
2FG
3indy
4 I went a FF for the simple reason I could not bring myself to vote for the other FG candidate who is from that area