Flightradar24 Thread Part III

cgill

Carnacalla wrote:

Ryanairs doing up to 4 rounds of holding, with none diverting! Not often you see that!

EI-FRB (BHX) and EI-DYC (BUD) have diverted to Shannon now.

arubex

Rossiya B744 departed around 15:15

Chris_5339762

Diverting because of capacity issues on a runway is a bit mad really. I know these things can happen but IMO they desperately need some fast taxiways off 16/34. I don't know how feasible that is though, but it does seem to slow things down as arrival sep has to be increased.

arubex

Ryanair B738 EI-FOV just arrived in Belfast from Dublin! Apparently remedy for an earlier flight that diverted down to there instead of Belfast...

Day of diversions.

And here comes a Malmö RJ from Oslo to Dublin:

https://www.flightradar24.com/SCW8606/946c671

jimbis

Anyone know what's up with FR3445? Squawking 7700 and holding after take off from Manchester.

highlydebased

cgill wrote: »

EI-FRB (BHX) and EI-DYC (BUD) have diverted to Shannon now.

Poor FRB - it was only the return leg of it's first revenue service and it gets a diversion to Shannon :pac:

manutd

jimbis wrote: »

Anyone know what's up with FR3445? Squawking 7700 and holding after take off from Manchester.

suspected bird strike. Currently burning fuel.

manutd

FR3445 just landed safely Rwy 23R at Manchester Airport.

BZ

Did anyone catch the new falcon 8x demo aircraft that was due into SNN today?

arubex

BZ wrote: »

Did anyone catch the new falcon 8x demo aircraft that was due into SNN today?

Oh that was for Shannon? Passed over Belfast heading SW around 12:00 today. Above the rain...

Gaoth Laidir

I've signed up for the free 7-day trial to the Silver subscription but nothing has changed. Still bloody ads and nothing else. Nothing has been enabled.

sparrowcar

LH493 A333 on the way to DUB with medical emergency. ETA0600L. Stand 411

ninebeanrows

I wonder why it doesn't go Iceland?

Gaoth Laidir

This Thomas Cook from Copenhagen to Tenerife sure is taking the long way around a 90-kt southerly jet headwind over Iberia. They will catch a tailwind in the final third of the journey though.

smurfjed

Or they realised that its cheaper to fly over the ocean rather than the continent.

Growler!!!

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

This Thomas Cook from Copenhagen to Tenerife sure is taking the long way around a 90-kt southerly jet headwind over Iberia. They will catch a tailwind in the final third of the journey though.

Are the French lads striking again? They only went back to work on Friday! Thomas Cook might be saying feck this we'll avoid them just in case.

bkehoe

Growler!!! wrote: »

Are the French lads striking again? They only went back to work on Friday! Thomas Cook might be saying feck this we'll avoid them just in case.

Since December the Brest controllers haven't been working at full capacity over some kind of protest over the introduction of a new electronic strip system, and once again today there are moderate delays through Brest which may have contributed to this choice in routing.

Gaoth Laidir

SAS7711 in the same route took a direct routing and the Germany-Italy flights seem to be overflying France too. It seems only the charter-type ones are going the long way around. One from Ostend completely flew west to the Atlantic before routine g south. Check out all these flights now on approach to TFS.

PinOnTheRight

High delays through Brest FIR as electronic flight strips are being implemented, rather than striking.

Significant cost saving to be had as well using T9 compared with going over France, probably not enough to offset the extra miles but coupled with the delays, makes sense.

bkehoe

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

SAS7711 in the same route took a direct routing and the Germany-Italy flights seem to be overflying France too. It seems only the charter-type ones are going the long way around. One from Ostend completely flew west to the Atlantic before routine g south. Check out all these flights now on approach to TFS.

Just a theory, but short haul pilots for more central-european carriers probably don't have training to operate in NAT HLA (formally MNPS) airspace which means they can't use the oceanic routes that avoid French airspace, whereas charter operators probably train everything as they wouldn't want to turn down a charter flight to say the Azores for example just for a largely box ticking exercise.

I've heard some amusing radio calls to Shanwick during the last few French strikes from pilots in airlines that don't normally use the Tango routes that seem to have no idea how to do a position report or even request an oceanic clearance!

Oscar Bravo

Islander EI-AYN currently on an air test out towards Connemara

JCX BXC

SN1901 currently approaching the coast of northern Spain, heading from Brussels to Faro. The first passenger flight to leave Brussels Zaventem airport since the attacks on the 22nd of March.

IQO

Just flew with brand new Ryanair plane EI-FOZ from Dublin to Amsterdam, flight FR3104. The new Ryanair plane interior seems really nice, also had the feeling that the leg room has improved. Flight was pretty smooth at the start, until about 25 minutes after take off when the plane suddenly started to shift rightwards, continued by a heavy turn to the left and back to the right and left again. Felt pretty scary for all passengers, especially as it happened at cruise altitude.

Have felt much worse turbulence to be honest (there was not a lot of drop of altitude) but it was strange to experience this. About 20 seconds later the flight seemed to be in control again. Captain said later there was some wake turbulence which apparently came as a surprise to the flight deck too. Wouldn't they have been aware of a heavy jet flying in the area? Can I see with Flightradar24 which aircraft nearby could have been causing this wake turbulence to our plane?

KoolKid

Coming over Liverpool at FL370 this was ahead at the same altitude.

Bsal

Looking at the FR24 data the Ryanair was at FL370 same as the B747 with ~11nm spacing between them at one point. The B738 travelling at a GS of 447kt only took 1.5 minutes to pass the same point in space as the heavy B747 so it seemed to be too close for wake separation.

KoolKid

Seems to veer to the right of it after that.

notharrypotter

so it seemed to be too close for wake separation.

What is the en route radar separation for wake?

smurfjed

ATC will provide a minimum separation 5min between Heavy aircraft and any other aircraft, unless otherwise specified in the applicable country ATC section.

However, I believe this should be 5 NMS, although it may not be applicable everywhere.

Although ICAO currently provides no guidance or procedures in relation to en route wake turbulence, in the UK, the NAA has specified separation minima for this case which must be applied by ANSPs. The requirement is that a minimum of 5 nm shall be maintained between a Heavy (including A380-800) and any lower category aircraft which is following or crossing behind at the same level or less than 1000 ft below. No special longitudinal wake turbulence separations based on time are required.

Locker10a

What or who is the N43PR private 737 at NOC? I've seen it go there a few time now recently !!?

Tenger

Locker10a wrote: »

What or who is the N43PR private 737 at NOC? I've seen it go there a few time now recently !!?

I love this site for looking up these things.....
http://www.airframes.org/

Doesn't always give you a straight answer however, as the aircraft owner could be a shell company/subsidiary for the actual operator. No idea who Town and Country Food Markets Inc, KS.

Wiki= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_%26_Country_Food_Stores