Flightradar24 Thread Part III

billy few mates

If I remember correctly the crosswind limits for a B737NG with winglets is as low as 25 knots....

JCX BXC

EI3701 (STK01BH) BHX-ORK diverting to SNN.

Shannon Control

These vary depending on the SOP in question and pilot's crosswind limitations.

For takeoff:

Dry (with winglets) 34 kts
Dry (without winglets) 36 kts
Wet: 25 kts
Standing Water / Slush: 15 kts

For landing it's:

Dry: 38 kts
Wet: 36 kts
Standing Water /Slush 20 kts

The ILS category limitation is 25 knots and 20 knots for a CATII and III, respectively.
You will often see some 738s holding short and A320s departing, due to the winglets. A320s max gusting is 38kts with a dry runway (departing)

Chris_5339762

Carnacalla wrote: »

EI3701 (STK01BH) BHX-ORK diverting to SNN.

Thats unfortunate as FAU got in around the same time.

JCX BXC

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Thats unfortunate as FAU got in around the same time.

What happened was EI3701 went around, and wind was out of limits so they lost their place in the sequence and became number 4. FAU got in when the wind was without a gust, but by the time EI3701's turn came around to make an approach, the wind was gusting up to 41kts.

Skuxx

Anyone notice the balloons or "Google Loon" showing over South America? Are they a new thing?

Pat Dunne

Skuxx wrote: »

Anyone notice the balloons or "Google Loon" showing over South America? Are they a new thing?

First came across them (they seem to be usually in pairs) at the start of the year, just west of Mauritania, at about 60,000 feet. Saw them again a couple of months ago, this time just east of the British Virgin Islands at much the same flight level.

Oscar Bravo

Nice few in the hold at Cork now

JCX BXC

Posted earlier but it didn't go through,

All aircraft went around, EI3843 diverting to SNN.

highlydebased

STK3805 to SNN too.

finnharpsboy

highlydebased wrote: »

STK3805 to SNN too.

EI 3741 looks to be joining him too

finnharpsboy

RYR33YY heading to Shannon too

pepe the prawn

Anyone know why the Stobarts arent trying RWY07?

Chris_5339762

Could be to do with the pilot/co-pilot arrangement. Correct me if I'm wrong but 07 has to be a pilot approach (not co-pilot) and not all the pilots are trained in it.

finnharpsboy

RYR84JA Looks to be going straight to Shannon, not even trying Cork

Growler!!!

pepe the prawn wrote: »

Anyone know why the Stobarts arent trying RWY07?

Wind was out of limits and cloudbase too low.

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Could be to do with the pilot/co-pilot arrangement. Correct me if I'm wrong but 07 has to be a pilot approach (not co-pilot) and not all the pilots are trained in it.

????
No idea where you heard that. But it's wrong.

JCX BXC

Courtesy of Brennans Row in the Shannon Airport Thread:

"Four Aer Lingus Regional and two Ryanair flights have diverted to Shannon due to bad weather conditions.

EI3701 *Birmingham - Cork* (ATR 72-600)
EI3843 *Bristol - Cork* (ATR 72-600)
EI3805 * Edinburgh - Cork* (ATR 72-600)
EI3741 *Southampton - Cork* (ATR 72-600)
FR8781 *Gdansk - Cork* (Boeing 737-8AS)
FR9948 *Faro - Cork* (Boeing 737-8AS)"

pepe the prawn

Growler!!! wrote: »

Wind was out of limits and cloudbase too low.

Thanks, is that because of a VOR approach as opposed to an ILS?

JCX BXC

pepe the prawn wrote: »

Thanks, is that because of a VOR approach as opposed to an ILS?

Correct. 07 also has no approach lights, so a visual is necessary.

Growler!!!

pepe the prawn wrote: »

Thanks, is that because of a VOR approach as opposed to an ILS?

Similar MDH to rwy25 but the RVR required is 1500m due to the lighting situation.

Chris_5339762

Growler!!! wrote: »

No idea where you heard that. But it's wrong.

I actually heard that on here, this very thread. Or one of its previous incarnations.

Growler!!!

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

I actually heard that on here, this very thread. Or one of its previous incarnations.

The short and narrow restriction was lifted 4 years ago. As the runway is nether short nor narrow:D

JCX BXC

Growler!!! wrote: »

As the runway is nether short

That's debatable.

Growler!!!

Carnacalla wrote: »

That's debatable.

Debate away. Plenty long enough for stobart. The others arnt my concern:D

JCX BXC

FR908 (RYR10CE) STN-ORK holding at ORK, wind outside limits.

Chris_5339762

Shannon never seems to have a problem with diverts, seems to me its runway is at an optimum angle. Why is Corks runway at such a seemingly stupid angle? It is just the geography of its (stupid) position?

Pat Dunne

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Shannon never seems to have a problem with diverts, seems to me its runway is at an optimum angle. Why is Corks runway at such a seemingly stupid angle? It is just the geography of its (stupid) position?

I go as far as to say that the location of CRK is completely wrong. I recall a discussion from the 70's, in which one of the participants was convinced that CRK was located in its present location as a result of local vested interests and not where it was originally intended for, in the Lower Glanmire and Fota Island area.

JCX BXC

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Shannon never seems to have a problem with diverts, seems to me its runway is at an optimum angle. Why is Corks runway at such a seemingly stupid angle? It is just the geography of its (stupid) position?

The angle of ORK is quite stupid. Too southeasterly facing, a strong wind of 250 degrees will soon be a complete crosswind the the runway becomes 16/34 (whens that happening actually?) Of course today there's an extremely unusual wind!

Dublin has the other extreme then, the runway is slightly northwesterly facing, but again when you get a strong southwesterly 220 degrees you start having problems.

JCX BXC

EI725 went straight in for an approach, going around now.

Wanderer78

has FR908 had enough and gone to shannon?