Flightradar24 Thread Part III

JCX BXC

RWY16 in use at DUB, walking inspection of RWY28.

LiamaDelta

JCX BXC wrote: »

RWY16 in use at DUB, walking inspection of RWY28.

There was also a low flying single engine plane doing laps between the airport and Portmarnock. Must have been part of some survey/inspection also.

back on 28 now.

Oscar Bravo

Learjet 35 currently over Belmullet descending into Shannon. reg is C-GUAC

arubex

Vietnam Airlines B789 VN-A861 passed eastbound over Athlone around 03:00 this morning heading from Havana to Frankfurt and then on to Hanoi.

National Assembly Chairwoman Nguyen Thi Kim Nga returning home from Mr Castro's funeral.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vn-a861/#bc392dd

GBX

Nice commuter service

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/804404606293999616

reforger

EI 495 (Faro to Dublin) diverting to Shannon.

BZ

reforger wrote: »

EI 495 (Faro to Dublin) diverting to Shannon.

Hydraulic issue.

cromelex

reforger wrote: »

EI 495 (Faro to Dublin) diverting to Shannon.

Girlfriend was on this flight. Annoyed as hell!

Was told there was an "engine issue".

EchoIndia

cromelex wrote: »

Girlfriend was on this flight. Annoyed as hell!

Was told there was an "engine issue".

What else would she have had them do in the circumstances?

cromelex

EchoIndia wrote: »

What else would she have had them do in the circumstances?

I meant as in annoyed with her luck, rather than with Aer Lingus.

It's not a bad call if the passengers safety was at risk.

Mech1

live feed from the crashed Brazilian plane available here if anyone feels like listening to it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ab5x_C-CFg im not gonna embed the video to this thread as its gotta be up to yourself if you wanna listen. Its all in foreign language but translation is on screen.

Dardania

cromelex wrote: »

EchoIndia wrote: »

What else would she have had them do in the circumstances?

I meant as in annoyed with her luck, rather than with Aer Lingus.

It's not a bad call if the passengers safety was at risk.

It's curious why they diverted to Shannon. Makes you wonder if the issue was only noted during descent? Otherwise, coming from where they did (distance wise), they should have been able to continue to Dublin...

Mech1 wrote: »

live feed from the crashed Brazilian plane available here if anyone feels like listening to it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ab5x_C-CFg im not gonna embed the video to this thread as its gotta be up to yourself if you wanna listen. Its all in foreign language but translation is on screen.

Chilling stuff. It's not looking good for the pilot's decision making - could they have gotten away with no reporting of the issue had they not reported an emergency, to get immediate permission to land? Such a gambling attitude...

Mech1

Sorry my last post is in the wrong thread, didnt check the front page recently:o

Locker10a

cromelex wrote: »

reforger wrote: »

EI 495 (Faro to Dublin) diverting to Shannon.

Girlfriend was on this flight. Annoyed as hell!

Was told there was an "engine issue".

Sorry I have zero sympathy for passengers who get annoyed at a diversion that happens for a technical or safety, or welfare related reason.
If there was a concern about the performance of a technical part of this aircraft (which there obviously was) the Captain, bearing in mind he or she has responsibility for the aircraft and the passengers and crew on that aircraft, has a decision to make. If his/her decision is to divert (decision never taken lightly) then it tells me the information available to this flight crew created enough of a concern to prioritise safety and in my opinion that should never be criticised, indeed it should be respected.

cromelex

Locker10a wrote: »

Sorry I have zero sympathy for passengers who get annoyed at a diversion that happens for a technical or safety, or welfare related reason.
If there was a concern about the performance of a technical part of this aircraft (which there obviously was) the Captain, bearing in mind he or she has responsibility for the aircraft and the passengers and crew on that aircraft, has a decision to make. If his/her decision is to divert (decision never taken lightly) then it tells me the information available to this flight crew created enough of a concern to prioritise safety and in my opinion that should never be criticised, indeed it should be respected.

Just to clarify, as I mentioned on post #2866 the "annoyed" bit was not a criticism to the crew's decision.

KwackerJack

D-CCAS seems to be inbound Dublin......nice to see such rare aircraft come in

Here to watch her land @ -2.0 then off to my warm bed

Irish Steve

Re the Aer Lingus diversion to Shannon with a hydraulic issue, that's very simple. Hydraulic issue could have meant that full braking was not available, Shannon runway is a LOT longer than Dublin, so if the brakes were not working as well as normal, the extra runway would have provided the safety net to allow them to deal with the problem. The other possible issue is that depending on the nature of the fault, the aircraft could have been disabled on the runway, and in all honesty, a disabled aircraft on the runway at Shannon is going to cause a lot less inconvenience than a disabled aircraft on the runway at Dublin. And that's before the safety issues are taken into consideration.

monkey lover

Go around at Cork this morning. "Training landing that didn't go too well!"

FR901 from London to Cork:
http://fr24.com/RYR98EV/bc777db

Chris_5339762

Whoops

In the vein of mad speculation you can see the approach paths are quite different. Did someone miss centerline

pepe the prawn

Stobart ATR enroute from Shannon to Cork, Shannon to Birmingham flight cancelled and the return Birmingham to cork also cancelled, don't know why.

Locker10a

Any one know what EI 4500 is doing , EI-CPE, seems to be flying around Ireland ?

pepe the prawn

Locker10a wrote: »

Any one know what EI 4500 is doing , EI-CPE, seems to be flying around Ireland ?

Santa flight.

Locker10a

pepe the prawn wrote: »

Locker10a wrote: »

Any one know what EI 4500 is doing , EI-CPE, seems to be flying around Ireland ?

Santa flight.

Oh wow, cool, didn't know EI did this? What exactly does an Santa Flight around Ireland entail ?

pepe the prawn

Locker10a wrote: »

Oh wow, cool, didn't know EI did this? What exactly does an Santa Flight around Ireland entail ?

I haven't a clue but I wouldn't mind a spin on it myself :pac:

Trebor176

I think they could be special flights for sick kids. I know they've done Santa flights for kids in Our Lady's Hospital before, so I guess that's what today's flight was.

Locker10a

pepe the prawn wrote: »

Locker10a wrote: »

Oh wow, cool, didn't know EI did this? What exactly does an Santa Flight around Ireland entail ?

I haven't a clue but I wouldn't mind a spin on it myself :pac:

I just thought it looked like an air test, i always thought the santa flights involved actually flight somewhere and going to visit mantas grotto, in a like SNN or somewhere lol

billie1b

Locker10a wrote: »

Oh wow, cool, didn't know EI did this? What exactly does an Santa Flight around Ireland entail ?

Post maintenance test flight

maximum12

Fr555 man-dub went around a few minutes ago. Landed second attempt.

EchoIndia

maximum12 wrote: »

Fr555 man-dub went around a few minutes ago. Landed second attempt.

A departing aircraft was lined up but held by ATC owing to racing pigeons crossing the airfield.

maximum12

Ei125 making an early left turn on departure. Someone in atc not paying attention

Shannon Control

maximum12 wrote: »

Ei125 making an early left turn on departure. Someone in atc not paying attention

What did it have to do with ATC?

maximum12

Shannon Control wrote: »

What did it have to do with ATC?

They're meant to fly straight out 5 miles before making the turn.

Sometimes you'll see a weather related exception

Cessna_Pilot

maximum12 wrote: »

They're meant to fly straight out 5 miles before making the turn.

Sometimes you'll see a weather related exception

How does that make it someone in atc "not paying attention"?

I'm genuinely intrigued.

maximum12

Cessna_Pilot wrote: »

How does that make it someone in atc "not paying attention"?

I'm genuinely intrigued.

Given an early turn instruction

Shannon757

How do you know the pilots didn't turn to early?

maximum12

Shannon757 wrote: »

How do you know the pilots didn't turn to early?

I don't. I guess it's possible but seems unlikely they'd make a turn without an instruction?

smurfjed

 I guess it's possible but seems unlikely they'd make a turn without an instruction?

Ugh just think of the paperwork the crew would have to fill in to justify not following the SID or ATC instructions.

Shannon Control

maximum12 wrote: »

I don't. I guess it's possible but seems unlikely they'd make a turn without an instruction?

You'll find that a minority of flights fly the full first portion of the SID to the OE NDB. Majority of departures get an early turn based on the SID.

duskyjoe

Re the early turns and posts.......arm chair warriors that haven't a bulls notion what they are talking about. Read what Shannon Control has to say.

Irish Steve

OK Folks, it's time to move on. For whatever reason, EI125 did something non standard. No big deal, and in the absence of any confirming facts of an unapproved activity. not something to argue about for any length of time

A STANDARD instrument departure is exactly that, the standard. It can be varied at the discretion of ATC for any number of valid reasons, the most likely being weather, but there can be other reasons, like transit traffic further out in the zone, or a helicopter holding for an approach, or the Garda Helicopter operating on the normal departure path, or whatever.

Unlike a railway line, that doesn't allow any variances, an aircraft can go where it likes, as long as ATC have approved the route before it happens. That approval may well have been passed to the aircraft before it even got to the runway, or it may have been requested before the take off roll started, and without the ATC tape to check it, we won't know the exact why, and it's unlikely to have been anyone's error, or mistake.

If it was a mistake, it will be reported, and probably turn up on a site like AV Herald at some stage in the next few days.

Mech1

Only seeing this now, but a ATR (if thats right) to isle of man departed next or at least shortly after and was given option of early turn left (before takeoff). Turned before he passed over the fence from what i seen. so I assume the earlier flight got similar clearance.

PukkaStukka

Mech1 wrote: »

Only seeing this now, but a ATR (if thats right) to isle of man departed next or at least shortly after and was given option of early turn left (before takeoff). Turned before he passed over the fence from what i seen. so I assume the earlier flight got similar clearance.

That does happen from time to time, so indeed must be par for the course.

eastmayo

Air Canada seems to be diverting off the mayo coast at the moment. Boeing 777.

Irish Steve

Looking like a diversion into Dublin, based on profile.

tricky D

Mech1 wrote: »

Only seeing this now, but a ATR (if thats right) to isle of man departed next or at least shortly after and was given option of early turn left (before takeoff). Turned before he passed over the fence from what i seen. so I assume the earlier flight got similar clearance.

Not an unusual occurrence at all. By my limited reckoning* it would be for 2 reasons:
cutting a corner to reduce flight time in the absence of issues preventing that;
or getting out of the way of a jet (faster climb performance) taking off behind. There was reference here a while back when an ATR took off from 16 and fairly promptly did a right-left 'chicane' to get out of the way of a following Ryanair.

Weather might be another reason but that might apply to a wider range of types.

* standard disclaimer and open to correction.

Irish Steve

To facilitate faster and heavier types, there are actually different SID procedures for Category A & B aircraft, (mostly smaller lighter types, such as smaller General aviation types, and Dash 8's, ATR's and the like) compared to C & D.

Part of that relates to noise abatement, but part of it is to make it easier to get maximum utilisation of the available runway slots.

The main difference is that Cat A & B aircraft can start a turn once they are above 750 Ft, and diverge from the runway centre line path, whereas the heavier C & D aircraft normally continue to 4 miles, and (from rusty memory) 3000 Ft before turning.

Both however can be changed as necessary to meet operational requirements, and that can be both airline and airport related.

PukkaStukka

Operations at Dublin have swung around to Runway 16 as winds are now gusting from.the south with patchy low cloud & mist.

Ilyushin76

An antonov 124 inbound to shannon now.

Spanish Eyes

Ilyushin76 wrote: »

An antonov 124 inbound to shannon now.

That is some big bird alright.

Amazing to see the size of it on uTube in comparison to "ordinary" craft.

I would love to see it in real time. But hey ho. Probably won't.

Shannon757

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

That is some big bird alright.

Amazing to see the size of it on uTube in comparison to "ordinary" craft.

I would love to see it in real time. But hey ho. Probably won't.

It is absolutely amazing to see it up close. Great to see it take off.