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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Tzardine wrote: »
    They have not identified him yet according the the independent.

    They would know anyone connected to that feud so I would say it is unrelated the gardai would know them boys on site.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    Was lured to an alleyway and shot 6 times, sounds serious enough but not related to "the feud".


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hope this isn't another innocent victim of gangland!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Was lured to an alleyway and shot 6 times, sounds serious enough but not related to "the feud".

    Do you know who it was?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    The Tallaght scene is a bit disconnected. Murders tend to be small-time drug dealers or possibly linked to old debts/fueds. Certainly no major links.

    If there are links it will be linked to Drimnagh-Crumlin side of this (so Kinahan) albeit hard to know in what sense.

    Clondalkin is always a possibility.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    scopper wrote: »
    The Tallaght scene is a bit disconnected. Murders tend to be small-time drug dealers or possibly linked to old debts/fueds. Certainly no major links.

    If there are links it will be linked to Drimnagh-Crumlin side of this (so Kinahan) albeit hard to know in what sense.

    Yeah when a killing happens in tallaght its usually over petty stuff


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    tomofson wrote: »
    scopper wrote: »
    The Tallaght scene is a bit disconnected. Murders tend to be small-time drug dealers or possibly linked to old debts/fueds. Certainly no major links.

    If there are links it will be linked to Drimnagh-Crumlin side of this (so Kinahan) albeit hard to know in what sense.

    Yeah when a killing happens in tallaght its usually over petty stuff
    I think this just sums up how it doesn't matter what new emergency legislation, media hyperbole saturation, mini-cabs, arrests, charges (and dodgy charges), international crime fighting squads etc are brought in. These guys just dont give a flying **** and it's a losing ( edit: lost) battle for the gardai regardless of what the outcome of the whole Kinahan/ Hutch thing is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    According to a commenter on the journal its the other gunman in GH's murder


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    tomofson wrote: »
    Do you know who it was?
    No, but I'd say scopper is right it's probably small time dealers with some sort of debt or dispute. Alot of clowns running around now coked up with access to serious firearms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    No, but I'd say scopper is right it's probably small time dealers with some sort of debt or dispute. Alot of clowns running around now coked up with access to serious firearms.

    Someone on the Journal said its the other gunman in GH murder


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    tomofson wrote: »
    According to a commenter on the journal its the other gunman in GH's murder

    No way they could say that at this point. Unless they were involved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Tzardine wrote: »
    No way they could say that at this point. Unless they were involved.

    Or know a family member who just got a phonecall, But yeah id say your right its just speculation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    Seems a silly thing for someone to say as that info could only be insider, even if it is filtered though that's someone saying that they know.

    Could well be, but the location fits previous petty Tallaght-esque fueds for sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    scopper wrote: »
    Seems a silly thing for someone to say as that info could only be insider, even if it is filtered though that's someone saying that they know.

    Could well be, but the location fits previous petty Tallaght-esque fueds for sure.

    I would say most likely you are right, but at the same time you would be amazed how fast word can travel they wouldn't necessarily have to have been involved or even know anyone involved to know that basic information. Word travels at an incredible speed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭Howjoe1


    tomofson wrote: »
    Yeah when a killing happens in tallaght its usually over petty stuff

    The statement shows how cheap life has become in Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Howjoe1 wrote: »
    TH statement shows how cheap life has become in Ireland.

    Yes it has got cheap especially in those circles. Although tallaght has been fairly quite recently


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    Howjoe1 wrote: »
    TH statement shows how cheap life has become in Ireland.

    Sad, but very much true. When I hear about killings here I do sort of just go, I wonder if it was x or y (the local heads who are on top until...they are not).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    tomofson wrote: »
    I would say most likely you are right, but at the same time you would be amazed how fast word can travel they wouldn't necessarily have to have been involved or even know anyone involved to know that basic information. Word travels at an incredible speed.

    True, I will note comments on journal.ie have been good before for getting the names right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭DamienDarts


    scopper wrote: »
    True, I will note comments on journal.ie have been good before for getting the names right.

    And someone has backed him for his info saying
    " I would take his word on that"
    so he must have been right before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    https://twitter.com/ridiculousmickj

    "just commented on.."

    All the way down.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭jobless


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    Just another day in Tallaght

    Yeah there's a killing everyday... Fool


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    Allyall wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ridiculousmickj

    "just commented on.."

    All the way down.
    Yes but "other person" = new INLA on the run well known to the Guards guy no? Would have been identified straight away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭Howjoe1


    Yes but "other person" = new INLA on the run well known to the Guards guy no? Would have been identified straight away.

    i was thinking that too. suppose let's wait and see.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    Howjoe1 wrote: »
    The statement shows how cheap life has become in Ireland.

    Yes people are being murdered, peppered with bullets for stuff that years ago would only be beating with a baseball bat or at most a knife. Too much coke and paranoia. I would say individuals are afraid that if they let someone off with a bad beating, they will come back to see them with a gun!


  • Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭Michael O Toole


    tomofson wrote: »
    According to a commenter on the journal its the other gunman in GH's murder

    GH?
    That would be interesting. The cops, and others, were happy enough he had left the state, possibly the island. Maybe he came back, but doubtful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭anthonyos


    Any word on the identity of the victim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,715 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    jobless wrote: »
    Yeah there's a killing everyday... Fool

    You don't understand sarcasm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    The comment seems to be removed from the Journal, and all of the replies to it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Taken with a pinch of salt on Journal!
    Speculative.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    GH?
    That would be interesting. The cops, and others, were happy enough he had left the state, possibly the island. Maybe he came back, but doubtful.

    I'd believe that quicker than some anon on Journal!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes people are being murdered, peppered with bullets for stuff that years ago would only be beating with a baseball bat or at most a knife. Too much coke and paranoia. I would say individuals are afraid that if they let someone off with a bad beating, they will come back to see them with a gun!

    Main difference is the amount of crims that think they are untouchable.
    They learned nothing from what happened to Gilligan's crew!
    Add to that none of them have careers, they go from joyriders to armed robbers & hitmen in their 20s.
    It's a new breed with new ideas of what they WILL do if anyone messes with them, ala Limerick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,240 ✭✭✭✭briany


    One of the Hutch gang, or should I say an 'erstwhile' associate of some sort, lives on a little upmarket cul de sac in Loughshinny, and the Gards have set up a police presence at the crossroads checking motorists coming in. Mad to think that such a quiet place could become the scene of some gang aggro.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    briany wrote: »
    One of the Hutch gang lives on a little upmarket Cul de Sac in Loughshinny, and the Gards have set up a police presence at the crossroads checking motorists coming in. Mad to think that such a quiet place could become the scene of some gang aggro.

    Yeah, the quiet places is where they are all springing up in.
    Best place to hide from prying eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,240 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Yeah, the quiet places is where they are all springing up in.
    Best place to hide from prying eyes.

    Don't know about that. Everyone and their mother seems to know he lives there. The Gards have often had a squad car outside his house, just to needle him, I suppose. He financed the development he lives on and he drinks in pubs around the area. He was even in the Yacht bar one night chatting away about what he used to do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭Michael O Toole


    Anyway, it's definitely not that name associated with the GH thing. His name should be released later on.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anyway, it's definitely not that name associated with the GH thing. His name should be released later on.

    Was the body found in a secluded area?
    Marie, the state pathologist is getting over worked recently :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    Anyway, it's definitely not that name associated with the GH thing. His name should be released later on.

    So "RidiculousMick" is exactly that...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Allyall wrote: »
    So "RidiculousMick" is exactly that...

    Of course!
    There's a "ulickmagee" on there too.
    Troll heaven!


  • Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭Michael O Toole


    Was the body found in a secluded area?
    Marie, the state pathologist is getting over worked recently :(


    Not overly secluded. A couple of houses nearby and just off the N81.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Not overly secluded. A couple of houses nearby and just off the N81.


    Is it fued related?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Bicky bicky


    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/gardai-confirm-identity-of-man-found-shot-dead-in-remote-laneway-34773672.html

    Indo confirms maie 30s gardai have identified said maie and won't release name until all family informed not connected to high profile feud apparently!


  • Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭Michael O Toole


    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/gardai-confirm-identity-of-man-found-shot-dead-in-remote-laneway-34773672.html

    Indo confirms maie 30s gardai have identified said maie and won't release name until all family informed not connected to high profile feud apparently!

    I think it's definitely not part of the Hutch/Kinahan feud. But that does not mean there is not a possible link to certain elements within that feud. Not trying to be cryptic, but I have to write it in the paper first.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think it's definitely not part of the Hutch/Kinahan feud. But that does not mean there is not a possible link to certain elements within that feud. Not trying to be cryptic, but I have to write it in the paper first.

    That's understandable!
    We can safely say it's gangland related though.
    How long will it take for us to be shocked by a shooting in Dublin again?
    Were we ever shocked? You might say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    A Superintendent was just on the Radio News, and confirmed that the shooting is not feud related.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    HarryStuby wrote: »
    Be interesting to see if the other gang in the Crumlin drimnagh feud see this as an opportunity to take out a few of the fat ones gang, some heavy hitters due to be released soon aswell as their most senior henchman who's mother was attacked by the fat ones gang, I'd imagine he's hell bent on revenge

    The man murdered today was released from prison recently, and ties to Crumlin-Drimnagh feud.


  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭HarryStuby


    The man murdered today was released from prison recently, and ties to Crumlin-Drimnagh feud.

    Do you know which side the victim was from?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    HarryStuby wrote: »
    Do you know which side the victim was from?
    Not the Crumlin one ! 2 people also arrested for witholding information.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    So likely someone from the Drimnagh side released after a while inside. There is overlay between the Crumlin guys and the Kinahans so the match would be incidental. They do have their own old scores to settle.

    In terms of Tallaght you get a lot of occasional post-Drimnagh/Crumling fued blowback because Tallaght is very close.


  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    First the KFC in Finglas attempt now this. Is the crumlin/Drimnagh thing kicking off again?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    First the KFC in Finglas attempt now this. Is the crumlin/Drimnagh thing kicking off again?

    I would suspect more old threads being addressed than it kicking off again. There has been a lot of delayed revenge in that feud, but it's not "hot".


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