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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    scopper wrote: »
    I would suspect more old threads being addressed than it kicking off again. There has been a lot of delayed revenge in that feud, but it's not "hot".

    Yes the last number of killings in that has been very one sided.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    tomofson wrote: »
    Yes the last number of killings in that has been very one sided.

    Indeed, via Bryne and co. Crumlin have a strong Kinahan relationship. The Drimnagh gang was never going to be able to compete these days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    How come one side ended up so tight with the kinahans? And how come that relationship with the kinahans didn't decide the feud a lot sooner. Surely with cartel backing the feud would have been very one sided!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    How come one side ended up so tight with the kinahans? And how come that relationship with the kinahans didn't decide the feud a lot sooner. Surely with cartel backing the feud would have been very one sided!

    I think at one stage cartel was supplying to both sides, but one side proved themselves to be the stronger and the cartel sided with them. Some of the most powerful members of the cartel are actually related to members on both sides


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    How come one side ended up so tight with the kinahans? And how come that relationship with the kinahans didn't decide the feud a lot sooner. Surely with cartel backing the feud would have been very one sided!

    in the beginning the crumlin drimnagh gangs were one big crew of friends who had mostly attended the same school and grew up together.They were all involved in crime and began to get into large scale drug dealing and were sourcing their drugs from the cartel. Back in 2000 i think it was deco gavin and 2 others were cutting up 2 kilos of coke and bagging out nearly 50 thousand ecstasy pills in the holiday inn hotel on pearse street. Deco gavin left the room and went down stairs and the gardai raided the hotel room the 2 lads in the room were arrested and deco was picked up down stairs, they were brought to different stations for questioning and gavin was released without charge after 2 days because he wasnt actually in the room when the raid happened. Brian rattigan and freddie were the leaders in the gang and a lot of people start accusing gavin of been a rat because he wasnt charged, freddie and some gang members sided with gavin and rattigan and the rest of the crew labelled him a rat. A year later rattigan was at home taking coke and drinking for his brothers 18th birthday when he heard deco gavin was in the abrakebabra on crumlin road he got a knife and a balaclava and went down and stabbed gavin in the heart and twisted the knife killing him. a few months later two men broke into brian rattigans house when he was asleep upstairs and shot him in his bed with a shotgun and handgun he lost a kidney and his spleen but survived. A woman in the house made a statement to the gardai saying she recognised freddie thompson as one of the shooters but later retracted the statement. Not long after rattigan got out of hospital his little brother joey was walking home from a night out when he was shot dead. Rattigan wanted revenge on the crumlin crew and him wayne zambra and gary bryan were on there way to a house to kill a number of the crumlin side when they were intercepted by the gardai and rattigan opened fire on them only stopping when he ran out of shells, he ended up getting 13 years for this. The main suspects for the killing of rattigans brother was paul warren and the man who would become one of the cartels hitmen paddy doyle. warren was next killed in revenge for the joey rattigan killing the main suspect for that murder was john roche who was next to be killed. the main suspect for roches murder was darren geoghan who was next killed in a double hit along with gavin byrne. Two days later john roches brother noel was killed sitting in a car paddy doyle was again the main suspect and craig white was jailed for life for been the getaway driver. Then in 2006 wayne zambra was shot dead sitting in his car and a month later gary bryan was killed after only getting out of jail. Later in the year eddie mccabe who was loosely connected to both gangs was at his girlfriends house in drimnagh it was suspected he was present when zambra was killed. A neighbour said he seen him at his girlfriends porch when a car pulled up and he was called over he told then shouted to the neighbour to tell his girlfriend he would be back in 5 minutes. He was found the next morning in a lane in inchicore after been horrifically beaten and his attacker had attempted to blind him his sight was gone completly in one eye and his other eye was seriously damaged he also had a sewer rod stuck in the side of his head which went into his brain the doctors tried to save him but he died. Brian downes owned a car dealership and was suspected of providing cars and fake license plates to be used in gang murders he had also been arrested for questioning about john roches murder. He was standing outside with edward ward sorting out the paperwork for a van when a gunman ran up and killed brian then killed edward as he didnt want to leave any witnesses.Then in 2008 paddy doyle was killed in spain unconnected to the crumlin/drimnagh feud then shay obyrne was killed the boyfriend of rattigans sister sharon. shay and sharon were outside there house in tallaght when the hitman ran up and began shooting shay sharon tackled him over a wall and he shot her in the leg but she fought on and disarmed him and got the gun while she also ended up with the hitmans phone and a can of red bull fell out of his pocket. garreth obrien from bray was convicted of been the shooter from forensic evidence and his phone, his phone ended up getting eugene cullen who was extremely close to freddie a life sentence for planning the murder along with gary flynn cullen has since died in prison form an overdose. Anthony cannon was next killed he was wearing a bullet proof vest but was shot several times in the head he was controlling the rattigan gang since brian rattigan was in jail and had since been convicted of deco gavins murder. The drimnagh side had basically admitted defeat after this and there was no more trouble untill freddie thompsons brother richie and his wife catherine were attacked in a pub during a chance meeting with some old members of the rattigan crew the main instigator of the attack was supposedly gerard eglington and john and noel roches little brother kenneth was later convicted for his role in it. Eglington was then shot dead in retaliation for the attack in portarlington in laois


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    paragraphs would be nice..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭tinpib


    paragraphs would be nice..

    It's a great post! Any chance of putting in paragraphs and punctuation gangster gossip?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    in the beginning the crumlin drimnagh gangs were one big crew of friends who had mostly attended the same school and grew up together.They were all involved in crime and began to get into large scale drug dealing and were sourcing their drugs from the cartel. Back in 2000 i think it was deco gavin and 2 others were cutting up 2 kilos of coke and bagging out nearly 50 thousand ecstasy pills in the holiday inn hotel on pearse street. Deco gavin left the room and went down stairs and the gardai raided the hotel room the 2 lads in the room were arrested and deco was picked up down stairs, they were brought to different stations for questioning and gavin was released without charge after 2 days because he wasnt actually in the room when the raid happened. Brian rattigan and freddie were the leaders in the gang and a lot of people start accusing gavin of been a rat because he wasnt charged, freddie and some gang members sided with gavin and rattigan and the rest of the crew labelled him a rat. A year later rattigan was at home taking coke and drinking for his brothers 18th birthday when he heard deco gavin was in the abrakebabra on crumlin road he got a knife and a balaclava and went down and stabbed gavin in the heart and twisted the knife killing him. a few months later two men broke into brian rattigans house when he was asleep upstairs and shot him in his bed with a shotgun and handgun he lost a kidney and his spleen but survived. A woman in the house made a statement to the gardai saying she recognised freddie thompson as one of the shooters but later retracted the statement. Not long after rattigan got out of hospital his little brother joey was walking home from a night out when he was shot dead. Rattigan wanted revenge on the crumlin crew and him wayne zambra and gary bryan were on there way to a house to kill a number of the crumlin side when they were intercepted by the gardai and rattigan opened fire on them only stopping when he ran out of shells, he ended up getting 13 years for this. The main suspects for the killing of rattigans brother was paul warren and the man who would become one of the cartels hitmen paddy doyle. warren was next killed in revenge for the joey rattigan killing the main suspect for that murder was john roche who was next to be killed. the main suspect for roches murder was darren geoghan who was next killed in a double hit along with gavin byrne. Two days later john roches brother noel was killed sitting in a car paddy doyle was again the main suspect and craig white was jailed for life for been the getaway driver. Then in 2006 wayne zambra was shot dead sitting in his car and a month later gary bryan was killed after only getting out of jail. Later in the year eddie mccabe who was loosely connected to both gangs was at his girlfriends house in drimnagh it was suspected he was present when zambra was killed. A neighbour said he seen him at his girlfriends porch when a car pulled up and he was called over he told then shouted to the neighbour to tell his girlfriend he would be back in 5 minutes. He was found the next morning in a lane in inchicore after been horrifically beaten and his attacker had attempted to blind him his sight was gone completly in one eye and his other eye was seriously damaged he also had a sewer rod stuck in the side of his head which went into his brain the doctors tried to save him but he died. Brian downes owned a car dealership and was suspected of providing cars and fake license plates to be used in gang murders he had also been arrested for questioning about john roches murder. He was standing outside with edward ward sorting out the paperwork for a van when a gunman ran up and killed brian then killed edward as he didnt want to leave any witnesses.Then in 2008 paddy doyle was killed in spain unconnected to the crumlin/drimnagh feud then shay obyrne was killed the boyfriend of rattigans sister sharon. shay and sharon were outside there house in tallaght when the hitman ran up and began shooting shay sharon tackled him over a wall and he shot her in the leg but she fought on and disarmed him and got the gun while she also ended up with the hitmans phone and a can of red bull fell out of his pocket. garreth obrien from bray was convicted of been the shooter from forensic evidence and his phone, his phone ended up getting eugene cullen who was extremely close to freddie a life sentence for planning the murder along with gary flynn cullen has since died in prison form an overdose. Anthony cannon was next killed he was wearing a bullet proof vest but was shot several times in the head he was controlling the rattigan gang since brian rattigan was in jail and had since been convicted of deco gavins murder. The drimnagh side had basically admitted defeat after this and there was no more trouble untill freddie thompsons brother richie and his wife catherine were attacked in a pub during a chance meeting with some old members of the rattigan crew the main instigator of the attack was supposedly gerard eglington and john and noel roches little brother kenneth was later convicted for his role in it. Eglington was then shot dead in retaliation for the attack in portarlington in laois

    Was Declan O'Reilly who was killed a day or so after Gerard Eglington not murdered as part of the same feud?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    I see the person found dead yesterday has been named as Neil Fitzgerald. He was released from prison 2 weeks ago after a sentence for aiming a gun at a Garda. The same gun was previously used to shoot up Freddie Thompson's grandparent's house. In '08.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    humberklog wrote: »
    I see the person found dead yesterday has been named as Neil Fitzgerald. He was released from prison 2 weeks ago after a lengthy sentence for aiming a gun at a Garda. The same gun was previously used to shoot up Freddie Thompson's grandparent's house. In '09(ish).

    Strangely enough he only came to mind as I was reading an article earlier, would be mad if was ozzie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,516 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Paragraphed (actually depressing to do so, trying to work out which victim needs his own paragraph and which should be a continuation).

    *******
    In the beginning the crumlin drimnagh gangs were one big crew of friends who had mostly attended the same school and grew up together.They were all involved in crime and began to get into large scale drug dealing and were sourcing their drugs from the cartel.

    Back in 2000 i think it was deco gavin and 2 others were cutting up 2 kilos of coke and bagging out nearly 50 thousand ecstasy pills in the holiday inn hotel on pearse street. Deco gavin left the room and went down stairs and the gardai raided the hotel room the 2 lads in the room were arrested and deco was picked up down stairs, they were brought to different stations for questioning and gavin was released without charge after 2 days because he wasnt actually in the room when the raid happened.

    Brian rattigan and freddie were the leaders in the gang and a lot of people start accusing gavin of been a rat because he wasnt charged, freddie and some gang members sided with gavin and rattigan and the rest of the crew labelled him a rat.

    A year later rattigan was at home taking coke and drinking for his brothers 18th birthday when he heard deco gavin was in the abrakebabra on crumlin road he got a knife and a balaclava and went down and stabbed gavin in the heart and twisted the knife killing him.
    A few months later two men broke into brian rattigans house when he was asleep upstairs and shot him in his bed with a shotgun and handgun he lost a kidney and his spleen but survived. A woman in the house made a statement to the gardai saying she recognised freddie thompson as one of the shooters but later retracted the statement.

    Not long after rattigan got out of hospital his little brother joey was walking home from a night out when he was shot dead. Rattigan wanted revenge on the crumlin crew and him wayne zambra and gary bryan were on there way to a house to kill a number of the crumlin side when they were intercepted by the gardai and rattigan opened fire on them only stopping when he ran out of shells, he ended up getting 13 years for this.

    The main suspects for the killing of rattigans brother was paul warren and the man who would become one of the cartels hitmen paddy doyle.
    Warren was next killed in revenge for the joey rattigan killing the main suspect for that murder was john roche who was next to be killed.

    The main suspect for roches murder was darren geoghan who was next killed in a double hit along with gavin byrne.
    Two days later john roches brother noel was killed sitting in a car paddy doyle was again the main suspect and craig white was jailed for life for been the getaway driver.
    Then in 2006 wayne zambra was shot dead sitting in his car and a month later gary bryan was killed after only getting out of jail.

    Later in the year eddie McCabe who was loosely connected to both gangs was at his girlfriends house in drimnagh it was suspected he was present when zambra was killed. A neighbour said he seen him at his girlfriends porch when a car pulled up and he was called over he told then shouted to the neighbour to tell his girlfriend he would be back in 5 minutes. He was found the next morning in a lane in inchicore after been horrifically beaten and his attacker had attempted to blind him his sight was gone completly in one eye and his other eye was seriously damaged he also had a sewer rod stuck in the side of his head which went into his brain the doctors tried to save him but he died.

    Brian Downes owned a car dealership and was suspected of providing cars and fake license plates to be used in gang murders he had also been arrested for questioning about john roches murder. He was standing outside with edward ward sorting out the paperwork for a van when a gunman ran up and killed brian then killed edward as he didnt want to leave any witnesses.

    Then in 2008 Paddy Doyle was killed in spain unconnected to the crumlin/drimnagh feud then shay obyrne was killed the boyfriend of rattigans sister sharon. shay and sharon were outside there house in tallaght when the hitman ran up and began shooting shay sharon tackled him over a wall and he shot her in the leg but she fought on and disarmed him and got the gun while she also ended up with the hitmans phone and a can of red bull fell out of his pocket.

    Garreth O'Brien from Bray was convicted of been the shooter from forensic evidence and his phone, his phone ended up getting eugene cullen who was extremely close to freddie a life sentence for planning the murder along with Gary Flynn. Cullen has since died in prison form an overdose.
    Anthony Cannon was next killed he was wearing a bullet proof vest but was shot several times in the head he was controlling the rattigan gang since Brian Rattigan was in jail and had since been convicted of Deco Gavins murder.

    The drimnagh side had basically admitted defeat after this and there was no more trouble until Freddie Thompsons brother Richie and his wife catherine were attacked in a pub during a chance meeting with some old members of the rattigan crew the main instigator of the attack was supposedly gerard eglington and john and noel roches little brother kenneth was later convicted for his role in it. Eglington was then shot dead in retaliation for the attack in portarlington in Laois.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    tomofson wrote: »
    Strangely enough he only came to mind as I was reading an article earlier, would be mad if was ozzie

    Funny you say that- it was in GG's Wall of Words previous post mentioning Anthony Cannon that got me googling the incident. Found Neil's name re the gun and so I googled him. The 1st story up was Neil being named in today's papers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    tomofson wrote: »
    Was Declan O'Reilly who was killed a day or so after Gerard Eglington not murdered as part of the same feud?

    declan oreilly was killed the day after eglington and it was ordered by the same man but wasnt feud related. Oreilly had got into a fight in prison with derek glennon and stabbed him and glennon died. Oreilly was acquitted of the murder in court because it was said glennon had been bullying him in prison and making him hide contraband for him and oreilly said he was in fear of his life of glennon. glennon was a serious criminal from west dublin and its believed his associates paid for oreilly to be murdered


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    humberklog wrote: »
    Funny you say that- it was in GG's Wall of Words previous post mentioning Anthony Cannon that got me googling the incident. Found Neil's name re the gun and so I googled him. The 1st story up was Neil being named in today's papers.

    Yeah just seen it has being confirmed it was him, it seems like if you do anything on thompson and crew no matter how long it takes it will fall back on you and you will most likely die over it. The amount of people they have got killed to be honest I wouldn't be saddened to see a few of them get buried.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    declan oreilly was killed the day after eglington and it was ordered by the same man but wasnt feud related. Oreilly had got into a fight in prison with derek glennon and stabbed him and glennon died. Oreilly was acquitted of the murder in court because it was said glennon had been bullying him in prison and making him hide contraband for him and oreilly said he was in fear of his life of glennon. glennon was a serious criminal from west dublin and its believed his associates paid for oreilly to be murdered

    Derek Glennon must have been a relation of the Glennon brothers from blanch who where both murdered back in 05


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  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Paragraphed (actually depressing to do so, trying to work out which victim needs his own paragraph and which should be a continuation).

    *******
    In the beginning the crumlin drimnagh gangs were one big crew of friends who had mostly attended the same school and grew up together.They were all involved in crime and began to get into large scale drug dealing and were sourcing their drugs from the cartel.

    Back in 2000 i think it was deco gavin and 2 others were cutting up 2 kilos of coke and bagging out nearly 50 thousand ecstasy pills in the holiday inn hotel on pearse street. Deco gavin left the room and went down stairs and the gardai raided the hotel room the 2 lads in the room were arrested and deco was picked up down stairs, they were brought to different stations for questioning and gavin was released without charge after 2 days because he wasnt actually in the room when the raid happened.

    Brian rattigan and freddie were the leaders in the gang and a lot of people start accusing gavin of been a rat because he wasnt charged, freddie and some gang members sided with gavin and rattigan and the rest of the crew labelled him a rat.

    A year later rattigan was at home taking coke and drinking for his brothers 18th birthday when he heard deco gavin was in the abrakebabra on crumlin road he got a knife and a balaclava and went down and stabbed gavin in the heart and twisted the knife killing him.
    A few months later two men broke into brian rattigans house when he was asleep upstairs and shot him in his bed with a shotgun and handgun he lost a kidney and his spleen but survived. A woman in the house made a statement to the gardai saying she recognised freddie thompson as one of the shooters but later retracted the statement.

    Not long after rattigan got out of hospital his little brother joey was walking home from a night out when he was shot dead. Rattigan wanted revenge on the crumlin crew and him wayne zambra and gary bryan were on there way to a house to kill a number of the crumlin side when they were intercepted by the gardai and rattigan opened fire on them only stopping when he ran out of shells, he ended up getting 13 years for this.

    The main suspects for the killing of rattigans brother was paul warren and the man who would become one of the cartels hitmen paddy doyle.
    Warren was next killed in revenge for the joey rattigan killing the main suspect for that murder was john roche who was next to be killed.

    The main suspect for roches murder was darren geoghan who was next killed in a double hit along with gavin byrne.
    Two days later john roches brother noel was killed sitting in a car paddy doyle was again the main suspect and craig white was jailed for life for been the getaway driver.
    Then in 2006 wayne zambra was shot dead sitting in his car and a month later gary bryan was killed after only getting out of jail.

    Later in the year eddie McCabe who was loosely connected to both gangs was at his girlfriends house in drimnagh it was suspected he was present when zambra was killed. A neighbour said he seen him at his girlfriends porch when a car pulled up and he was called over he told then shouted to the neighbour to tell his girlfriend he would be back in 5 minutes. He was found the next morning in a lane in inchicore after been horrifically beaten and his attacker had attempted to blind him his sight was gone completly in one eye and his other eye was seriously damaged he also had a sewer rod stuck in the side of his head which went into his brain the doctors tried to save him but he died.

    Brian Downes owned a car dealership and was suspected of providing cars and fake license plates to be used in gang murders he had also been arrested for questioning about john roches murder. He was standing outside with edward ward sorting out the paperwork for a van when a gunman ran up and killed brian then killed edward as he didnt want to leave any witnesses.

    Then in 2008 Paddy Doyle was killed in spain unconnected to the crumlin/drimnagh feud then shay obyrne was killed the boyfriend of rattigans sister sharon. shay and sharon were outside there house in tallaght when the hitman ran up and began shooting shay sharon tackled him over a wall and he shot her in the leg but she fought on and disarmed him and got the gun while she also ended up with the hitmans phone and a can of red bull fell out of his pocket.

    Garreth O'Brien from Bray was convicted of been the shooter from forensic evidence and his phone, his phone ended up getting eugene cullen who was extremely close to freddie a life sentence for planning the murder along with Gary Flynn. Cullen has since died in prison form an overdose.
    Anthony Cannon was next killed he was wearing a bullet proof vest but was shot several times in the head he was controlling the rattigan gang since Brian Rattigan was in jail and had since been convicted of Deco Gavins murder.

    The drimnagh side had basically admitted defeat after this and there was no more trouble until Freddie Thompsons brother Richie and his wife catherine were attacked in a pub during a chance meeting with some old members of the rattigan crew the main instigator of the attack was supposedly gerard eglington and john and noel roches little brother kenneth was later convicted for his role in it. Eglington was then shot dead in retaliation for the attack in portarlington in Laois.

    thanks pal


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    tomofson wrote: »
    Derek Glennon must have been a relation of the Glennon brothers from blanch who where both murdered back in 05

    sorry i got the glennons mixed up the glennon that oreilly killed was from crumlin as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    sorry i got the glennons mixed up the glennon that oreilly killed was from crumlin as well

    I'd still say he is related like a cousin or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/childcare-worker-charged-with-possession-of-ak47-assault-rifles-in-meath-last-week-34574916.html

    Anyone know the story behind these two? Whose side where they on and who were they attempting to kill with those AK-47s?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    511 wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/childcare-worker-charged-with-possession-of-ak47-assault-rifles-in-meath-last-week-34574916.html

    Anyone know the story behind these two? Whose side where they on and who were they attempting to kill with those AK-47s?

    Its not wise to talk about ongoing cases on public forums, but I believe they are associates of the Hutch camp.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Cazale


    A man who was shot six times in a country lane had previously been linked to an attack on the gangster 'Fat' Freddie Thompson.

    Neil Fitzgerald (35), from Dufferin Avenue, off Dublin's South Circular Road, spent several years in prison for pointing a loaded gun at three gardaí.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-shot-in-country-lane-was-linked-to-fat-freddie-attack-34775224.html


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    Sounds like the Gardai won't have much sympathy for the guy because of the reason he was locked up!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Sounds like the Gardai won't have much sympathy for the guy because of the reason he was locked up!

    They probably wont, another man was killed in finglas in the early hours of dismorning in a stabbing incident. Outside a halting site in dunsink lane finglas. Possibly a member of a certain ethnic minority know for violence


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    tomofson wrote: »
    They probably wont, another man was killed in finglas in the early hours of dismorning in a stabbing incident. Outside a halting site in dunsink lane finglas. Possibly a member of a certain ethnic minority know for violence

    Jeepers!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The picture Michael showed in his Twitter feed of the guy on the front page of Sunday World, he has the usual "tough guy" look.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    The picture Michael showed in his Twitter feed of the guy on the front page of Sunday World, he has the usual "tough guy" look.

    I dont know if there is a usual "tough guy" look, but which one are you talking about was their a picture up of the man who was stabbed at the traveller site or of neil fitzgerald?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    tomofson wrote: »
    I dont know if there is a usual "tough guy" look, but which one are you talking about was their a picture up of the man who was stabbed at the traveller site or of neil fitzgerald?

    The murder victim in Tallaght!
    The term is Traveller!


  • Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭yqtwqxqm


    tomofson wrote: »
    I dont know if there is a usual "tough guy" look, but which one are you talking about was their a picture up of the man who was stabbed at the traveller site or of neil fitzgerald?


    The frown with the wrinkled forehead. Eyes staring. Mouth little open. And of course there is the tough way to smoke. Holding the ciggy with the thumb and forefinger and sucking hard while the facial features are in the state mentioned above. They say Bud and Pal a lot too.

    At about 7 years old, this look is cemented for life.

    And dont forget the walk and the darting head movements and the hair.

    Worse still is this look on the female of the species. Too hideous to even describe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EKoT_lJKws


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    yqtwqxqm wrote: »
    The frown with the wrinkled forehead. Eyes staring. Mouth little open. And of course there is the tough way to smoke. Holding the ciggy with the thumb and forefinger and sucking hard while the facial features are in the state mentioned above.

    At about 7 years old, this look is cemented for life.

    And dont forget the walk and the darting head movements and the hair.

    Worse still is this look on the female of the species. Too hideous to even describe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EKoT_lJKws

    Thats just your own hate of the working class or disadvantaged people coming into play pal I think you need to have a long hard look at yourself and get over your own ego.


  • Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭yqtwqxqm


    tomofson wrote: »
    Thats just your own hate of the working class or disadvantaged people coming into play pal I think you need to have a long hard look at yourself and get over your own ego.


    You telling me you cant identify a scumbag from their look?
    99% of people can.
    There might be some who dont have that look, but most who do have that look can be identified as such.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    yqtwqxqm wrote: »
    You telling me you cant identify a scumbag from their look?
    99% of people can.

    I dont judge people based on what they look like cause im not an egoistical creep. People should be judged on the way they act and treat others not on the way they look.

    Anyway enough of the the weird sidetracking any more news on the gangland stuff.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    tomofson wrote: »
    I dont judge people based on what they look like cause im not an egoistical creep

    Anyway enough of the the weird sidetracking any more news on the gangland stuff.

    But you brand all members of the travelling community as knackers?
    Good job there Tom!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    But you brand all members of the travelling community as knackers?
    Good job there Tom!

    Not all members but with so many bad encounters and bad news I have heard of that community it is a little hard not to be a bit judgmental.

    Anyway any more on the gangland stuff?


  • Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭yqtwqxqm


    Oh tomofson, im sorry i started that now. Was meant to be a bit of a joke but serious at the same time.
    But clearly ive hit a nerve.
    Sorry I brought the thread off topic. Im happy to drop it now.
    Back to the shootings and stabbings


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,715 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    First the KFC in Finglas attempt now this. Is the crumlin/Drimnagh thing kicking off again?

    Everything is kicking off now that Frances and Noreen are pfaffing about and the guards are in summer holiday mode


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    tomofson wrote: »
    They probably wont, another man was killed in finglas in the early hours of dismorning in a stabbing incident. Outside a halting site in dunsink lane finglas. Possibly a member of a certain ethnic minority know for violence

    The perp in this case will get off for cultural reasons, watch


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    genericguy wrote: »
    The perp in this case will get off for cultural reasons, watch

    For stabbing a man to death? I don't think so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Nemesis......


    pablo128 wrote: »
    For stabbing a man to death? I don't think so.

    Seconded


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,702 ✭✭✭flutered


    Like pgp ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy


    Wonder what happens if you stopped and searched with one of them on you and you refuse to open it ? Can you be arrested with withholding information if Garda believe you to be involved in organized/subversive activities. Think you can in UK and Holland, open to correction.
    if you dont they cant, remember the anglo password saga


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,702 ✭✭✭flutered


    Augeo wrote: »
    Any link?

    Regarding Padraig O'Reilly...... "Gardai in Dublin need to adopt tactics used to smash Limerick's gangs.Hassle them 24/7..It's a proven tactic.", yeah, 100% successful :rolleyes:
    the limerick crowd thought that the gun was mightier than half a brain cell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,702 ✭✭✭flutered


    Prime time tonight doing a piece, They must be checking out boards too :-)
    the usual lazy journalo's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,702 ✭✭✭flutered


    As I said, I only saw it for the first time today. It's quite interesting. A lot of you seem deluded/paranoid/up your own holes.

    Good to see.
    and as for yourself..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,702 ✭✭✭flutered


    It was merely a general observation. But don't get worked up. You're all anonymous, so my comments mean nothing, really.
    there is no one anonymous on the web, they may think they are but...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭steve-collins


    So who else from the Rattigan gang is left ? Must be nearly all dead or in prison at this stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭HarryStuby


    So who else from the Rattigan gang is left ? Must be nearly all dead or in prison at this stage.

    There is a few who's sentence is up soon, rattigans main enforcer due out soon and he will be looking for blood...I'd imagine he will end up same way as Fitzgerald, don't think they will be smart enough to survive in this climate


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,702 ✭✭✭flutered


    Anyone know if for example an individual was gone on the run or in hiding (which is now becoming common!), if they logged onto their Facebook in a different country on a public type computer or someone elses, would be that be difficult for Gardai to trace?

    Would it be relatively straightforward and reasonably quick to trace them, or would they have to jump through hoops with Facebook, court orders etc?
    people can tell if you post under a different name, so it should not be a big job for them to check out where one posts from, fine geal have 32 socks checking every media source for posts for and against them and replying, so the keystones are probably no different


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,702 ✭✭✭flutered


    If they are hacks, they are ****e at their job!:pac:
    most are, when have we had a serious front page revealing something major, not kenny pissed and acting his shoe size at a rock concert


  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭honey12345


    i wonder who's side George penguin mitchell is on when it comes to the Kinahan's and the Hutches!???


  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭HarryStuby


    honey12345 wrote: »
    i wonder who's side George penguin mitchell is on when it comes to the Kinahan's and the Hutches!???

    No side as far as I know, he was approached by the hutch side it seems. Some big side must have sided with the hutches, I've heard a Scottish gang being mentioned(could possibly be digging in for a long war but looks very one sided at the moment)...surely they didn't think they could take on the kinahans with just themselves and the Dublin new IRA or was it all about revenge for Gary


  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭honey12345


    HarryStuby wrote: »
    No side as far as I know, he was approached by the hutch side it seems. Some big side must have sided with the hutches, I've heard a Scottish gang being mentioned(could possibly be digging in for a long war but looks very one sided at the moment)...surely they didn't think they could take on the kinahans with just themselves and the Dublin new IRA or was it all about revenge for Gary


    I dont think they were thinking straight when they went into the regency I think they were a grieving family looking for revenge. I think its very sad to see a whole family getting killed. And there is nothing no one can do to stop it they aren't even able to fight back they are out numbered and havens got the resources it seems to just be the kinahans killing a family one by one.


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