Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

rondog

A guy on a bike and botches it just doesn't seem to be the cartels style though, does it?


Really?Thats exactly the cartels style as of late.Allowing low level dealers to pay off drug debts by killing one of the hutches.
That's what happened Martin o rourke ,an innocent lad not involved in the dispute.K cartel paid/allowed a wiping of a drug debt to a complete novice to take a hutch out and he made a complete mess of it and got the wrong target.
Seems a similar case this time.

The Kinahans are using track suits for nearly all of their hits.
All sounds very plausible so far.

coniosumadre

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

The Kinahans are using track suits for nearly all of their hits.
All sounds very plausible so far.

In fairness i'd say he's a top target. whether the story is true or not....

bugler

You'd have to be pretty desperate/stupid to try for a senior Hutch now, surely. The chances of being caught must be huge. Obviously the Kinahan's won't care if it's a disposable hitman. Maybe if and when things calm down there will be more hits. We'll be reading about associated killings for a couple of years on this.

Bicky bicky

http://www.thesun.ie/irishsol/homepage/news/7211448/Gerry-Hutch-murder-Woman-accused-of-withholding-information-from-gardai-gets-bail.html

Think this woman is safer on remand unless she is getting Garda protection or relocation for information.

Allyall

From that link..

Gerry Hutch murder: Woman accused of withholding information from gardai gets bail

That's quite a big mistake to make...

Bicky bicky

Allyall wrote: »

From that link..



That's quite a big mistake to make...

Don't think it's a mistake click bait!

Anything Hutch linked has Gerry mentioned anything Kinahan linked has Christy or Daniel mentioned.

Appetite for anything feud related is huge!

Edit they fixed the headline! Gareth now not Gerry.

Allyall

But it says "Gerry Hutch Murder"...

When did that happen? Rag.

Bicky bicky

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/woman-charged-in-connection-with-gareth-hutch-murder-granted-bail

Same journalist!Editors choice re the sun??
Agree the sun seems to be the worst.

Gadgetman496

Mob enforcer Paul Rice hit hard by Tallaght drug raid


http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/mob-enforcer-paul-rice-hit-hard-by-tallaght-drug-raid

coniosumadre

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Mob enforcer Paul Rice hit hard by Tallaght drug raid


http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/mob-enforcer-paul-rice-hit-hard-by-tallaght-drug-raid

Maybe it's coincidence but I find it interesting how sometimes the papers mention things that were first mentioned here a few days before. Paul rice and the van in this case. It's not the first time. A lot of lurkers

Nemesis......

Jaysis,there must be gangland bankers houses being shot up by rice all over the place,
the original story has the bankers house in melrose estate in clondalkin

Bicky bicky

coniosumadre wrote: »

Maybe it's coincidence but I find it interesting how sometimes the papers mention things that were first mentioned here a few days before. Paul rice and the van in this case. It's not the first time. A lot of lurkers

In fairness to the hacks since Gareth's murder most of the info here has been from hacks of different shades anonymously obviously and before it's in there papers or online.


Is there any progress in Martin O Rourke murder?(should be a priority because he was an innocent victim)

20Cent

Nemesis...... wrote: »

Jaysis,there must be gangland bankers houses being shot up by rice all over the place,
the original story has the bankers house in melrose estate in clondalkin

You wonder how these guys manage to launder huge sums of money, there must be a few accountants and bankers involved. They don't get nicknames. Hitting that end of things had could help.

pablo128

20Cent wrote: »

You wonder how these guys manage to launder huge sums of money, there must be a few accountants and bankers involved. They don't get nicknames. Hitting that end of things had could help.

Wouldn't that involve electronic transfers and suchlike? You would wonder why they were sending 350k in cash vacuum packed, obviously to be sent abroad.

Ted111

pablo128 wrote: »

Wouldn't that involve electronic transfers and suchlike? You would wonder why they were sending 350k in cash vacuum packed, obviously to be sent abroad.

There is countries that turn a blind eye to whatever money is crossing their border. It can rest in bank accounts there permanently or be rerouted elsewhere.

You also reinvest a lot of your gains in legit business. Once you own a stack of legit business you can explain away any amount of money.
All this takes place across international borders. Difficult to police.

rondog

Ted111 wrote: »

There is countries that turn a blind eye to whatever money is crossing their border. It can rest in bank accounts there permanently or be rerouted elsewhere.

Hence why the K cartel have bought up assets in remote brazil(worth hundreds of millions),assets in Dubai where there in no European treaties to share information.
Dubai is now the preferred retirement place for the dapper don as he apparently has bought up streets over there and can live off rent and sales proceeds of houses when he needs a large cash injection.

AFAIK Dubai doesn't have the strict disclosure laws that Europe/USA have.

tomofson

What is the story about an attempt on the life of patsy hutch, gary's father???

rondog

Apparently there was a K hitman on the way to do a job on Patsy but he jetted off to the UK and just missed the Hitman.There was word of another attempt on his life recently with a gunman spotted on a bike scoping out his home until the ERU arrived.By that time the gunman had fled.

tomofson

rondog wrote: »

Apparently there was a K hitman on the way to do a job on Patsy but he jetted off to the UK and just missed the Hitman.There was word of another attempt on his life recently with a gunman spotted on a bike scoping out his home until the ERU arrived.By that time the gunman had fled.

The second one's what I was talking about.

honey12345

tomofson wrote: »

The second one's what I was talking about.

I thought he was in hiding! What is he thinking living there!

SHINKICKER

honey12345 wrote: »

I thought he was in hiding! What is he thinking living there!

Yeah my Da works down that way and was talking to him at the house today

tomofson

SHINKICKER wrote: »

Yeah my Da works down that way and was talking to him at the house today

So he's obviously not that worried then.

2RockMountain

rondog wrote: »

Hence why the K cartel have bought up assets in remote brazil(worth hundreds of millions),assets in Dubai where there in no European treaties to share information yet.
Dubai is now the preferred retirement place for the dapper don as he apparently has bought up streets over there and can live off rent and sales proceeds of houses when he needs a large cash injection.

AFAIK Dubai doesn't have the strict disclosure laws that Europe/USA have yet.

FYP

tomofson

Does anyone think the Eddie Hutch murder could have been meant for patrick snr??? They could of got the wrong house or something, knew a hutch lived there but not which one got them confused... Just a thought that came to mind.

Rakish Paddy

tomofson wrote: »

Does anyone think the Eddie Hutch murder could have been meant for patrick snr??? They could of got the wrong house or something, knew a hutch lived there but not which one got them confused... Just a thought that came to mind.

I never heard or thought of that possibility. I heard/read several times that Eddie was either involved in moving either people or weapons after the Regency job (or suspected of being involved), but I can't remember now if any of that came from an actual legitimate news source or if it was just 'word on the street'.

tomofson

Rakish Paddy wrote: »

I never heard or thought of that possibility. I heard/read several times that Eddie was either involved in moving either people or weapons after the Regency job (or suspected of being involved), but I can't remember now if any of that came from an actual legitimate news source or if it was just 'word on the street'.

Just seems more likely they would want to kill patsy over eddie.

rondog

tomofson wrote: »

Does anyone think the Eddie Hutch murder could have been meant for patrick snr??? They could of got the wrong house or something, knew a hutch lived there but not which one got them confused... Just a thought that came to mind.

No,that was intended.They were scoping him out for a while,knew exactly who he was and intended to kill him.

Allyall

SHINKICKER wrote: »

Yeah my Da works down that way and was talking to him at the house today

I hope he has another shooter sitting in a house across the street, watching/waiting.

Allyall

Fat Freddies Female Friend Warned her life is in danger

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/fat-freddies-female-friend-warned-that-her-life-is-in-danger

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/fat-freddie-thompsons-dublin-4-female-pal-warned-life-under-threat-from-hutch-gang-34884735.html

tomofson

pablo128 wrote: »

Wouldn't that involve electronic transfers and suchlike? You would wonder why they were sending 350k in cash vacuum packed, obviously to be sent abroad.

I assume the woman in question here is vicky dempsey, and I would serious doubt anything will come of this "threat"

Rakish Paddy

tomofson wrote: »

pablo128 wrote: »

Wouldn't that involve electronic transfers and suchlike? You would wonder why they were sending 350k in cash vacuum packed, obviously to be sent abroad.

I assume the woman in question here is vicky dempsey, and I would serious doubt anything will come of this "threat"

The Sunday Wurdld article would appear to suggest it's not her.

Aloneagain

SHINKICKER wrote: »

Yeah my Da works down that way and was talking to him at the house today

My sisters hairdressers boyfriends second cousin lives beside him and says he hasn't been seen around there for weeks !!!

Mrs cockett

Aloneagain wrote: »

My sisters hairdressers boyfriends second cousin lives beside him and says he hasn't been seen around there for weeks !!!

I can see why you're alone again !!!

tomofson

Rakish Paddy wrote: »

The Sunday Wurdld article would appear to suggest it's not her.

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bugler

tomofson wrote: »

Rakish Paddy wrote: »

The Sunday Wurdld article would appear to suggest it's not her.

She was the only female named in the article so thats their way of naming her in a round about way.

"No involvement in crime" and yet she has a rake of convictions. Perspective is a funny thing.

tomofson

bugler wrote: »

"No involvement in crime" and yet she has a rake of convictions. Perspective is a funny thing.

I think they meant no involvement in organized criminality, someone can have convictions and not be an organized gangland criminal.

Rakish Paddy

This article mentions that the Kinahan cartel are involved in the cut flower business:
http://www.smh.com.au/world/gangland-war-on-the-streets-of-dublin-20160218-gmxoun.html

Anyone else know anything about this?

Muahahaha

Dunno but the Sydney Morning Herald is one of Australias biggest newspapers, funny that theyre reporting on the feud in Dublin.

As for the Kinahans being in the "cut flower business", is that code for weed?!!

Rakish Paddy

Muahahaha wrote: »

As for the Kinahans being in the "cut flower business", is that code for weed?!!

I was thinking more along the lines of a close associate of a notorious Kinahan-linked thug who was apparently working in a family flower business. Of course I might be putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with a rose bush...

tomofson

Rakish Paddy wrote: »

I was thinking more along the lines of a close associate of a notorious Kinahan-linked thug who was apparently working in a family flower business. Of course I might be putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with a rose bush...

Who is that???

Rakish Paddy

tomofson wrote: »

Who is that???

I'd rather not get this thread closed or get myself banned, thank you very much

2RockMountain

Rakish Paddy wrote: »

This article mentions that the Kinahan cartel are involved in the cut flower business:
http://www.smh.com.au/world/gangland-war-on-the-streets-of-dublin-20160218-gmxoun.html

Anyone else know anything about this?

One of the wives of one of the Cunningham brothers worked in a busy florist.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/death-of-criminal-involved-in-guinness-kidnapping-30885021.html

I guess having regular shipments to/from Netherlands can be fairly handy.

coniosumadre

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/dad-accused-of-being-a-rat-by-hutch-mob-repeatedly-stabbed-after-being-lured-to-dublin-bar-34888760.html


http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/inla-chief-faces-internal-war-as-dissidents-cash-in-on-gangland-feud

bugler

And there's Jim Mansfield Jr in the middle of it, up to his armpits.

bugler

tomofson wrote: »

bugler wrote: »

"No involvement in crime" and yet she has a rake of convictions. Perspective is a funny thing.

I think they meant no involvement in organized criminality, someone can have convictions and not be an organized gangland criminal.

I know what they meant. I just find it amusing someone with many convictions, some for violent offences, and who is married to a serious organised criminal and no doubt profited from the proceeds of crime can be described as having "no involvement in crime." Just like me and you.

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/kinahan-mob-cancel-death-threat-on-prime-target-after-cash-payout

Hope the target has faith.

Allyall

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/kinahan-mob-cancel-death-threat-on-prime-target-after-cash-payout

Hope the target has faith.

Hope the target has more cash, and just used that to buy time.

Don't think I'd be handing them over any cash for any agreement or amount of guarantees/promises.

I'd use that money to retire somewhere warm.

Mr. CooL ICE

tomofson wrote: »

Who is that???

Mod:

Plenty of warnings have been made on thread already, so let me remind you:

- No Speculation
- No Gossip
- No naming addresses of suspects
- No requesting above info by PM, or otherwise

tomofson

coniosumadre wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/dad-accused-of-being-a-rat-by-hutch-mob-repeatedly-stabbed-after-being-lured-to-dublin-bar-34888760.html[/url]

Seems a bit makey uppy to me, How come nobody even heard of a stabbing in the news until now???