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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    rondog wrote: »
    RB I heard was still DKs right hand man.G & B F are staying with the money makers kinahans.

    Seems the majority will stay where the cash is and the more likely winner in this feud.
    If that is the case then is it safe to assume the Herald was talking bollocks last week about an individual fleeing to Northern Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭fergiesfav


    If that is the case then is it safe to assume the Herald was talking bollocks last week about an individual fleeing to Northern Ireland.

    I assumed that was JG?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    If that is the case then is it safe to assume the Herald was talking bollocks last week about an individual fleeing to Northern Ireland.

    I have doubts... I thought it was a pretty well known fact, and also discussed here a few weeks ago that GF and JG have remained with the Hutches. Wasn't it reported that one of them refused to meet with DK for ages after the murder of GH and when he finally did it was a trap and had a lucky escape??


  • Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭rondog


    If that is the case then is it safe to assume the Herald was talking bollocks last week about an individual fleeing to Northern Ireland.

    I have doubts... I thought it was a pretty well known fact, and also discussed here a few weeks ago that GF and JG have remained with the Hutches. Wasn't it reported that one of them refused to meet with DK for ages after the murder of GH and when he finally did it was a trap and had a lucky escape??
    It was JG who was pals with GH and PH growing up and who refused to meet with the kinahans at the so called summit.
    He was the one the papers are saying was 'heartbroken' at GH murder.JG is a big loss to the Kinahans.

    GF I hear was still running around with the kinahans.

    As for the Herald and Sundayworld,if you read their stories then absolutely everybody is a 'target' for the kinahans ie Paul rice, Fat Freddie(even though they have buried the hatchet) etc etc


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    fergiesfav wrote: »
    I assumed that was JG?
    I had assumed that but considering days later he was arrested in Dublin it doesn't seem too accurate.
    I have doubts... I thought it was a pretty well known fact, and also discussed here a few weeks ago that GF and JG have remained with the Hutches. Wasn't it reported that one of them refused to meet with DK for ages after the murder of GH and when he finally did it was a trap and had a lucky escape??

    I have heard at least 4 different accounts of that car park meeting. One saying GF, one saying RB and one saying JG. And another saying it never even took place and was made up.
    rondog wrote: »
    It was JG who was pals with GH and PH growing up and who refused to meet with the kinahans at the so called summit.
    He was the one the papers are saying was 'heartbroken' at GH murder.JG is a big loss to the Kinahans.

    GF I hear was still running around with the kinahans.

    Wasn't it the case that all of them were friends growing up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭fergiesfav


    I had assumed that but considering days later he was arrested in Dublin it doesn't seem too accurate.

    Dublin's an hour drive from the north. Not too hard to slip back in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Any news on KM after hes close brush with death a month ago? I heard hes back in the country and only spent two weeks in London though I dont know if thats true or not I wouldnt say it is. I'd say hes still over there but he wouldnt be loaded like the top dogs. That is one thing I noticed its handy for the likes of DK and the monk to get into these feuds cause they can F off to anywhere they want with their money and their contacts, its the small timers who have to stay and face the bullet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    fergiesfav wrote: »
    So what are the initials of the regency shooters.

    JG, PH any others?

    KM JMcG


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Rakish Paddy


    tomofson wrote: »
    KM JMcG

    Any truth in the rumour that a certain EH either drove guns or people away from the scene?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭rondog


    tomofson wrote: »
    Any news on KM after hes close brush with death a month ago? I heard hes back in the country and only spent two weeks in London though I dont know if thats true or not I wouldnt say it is. I'd say hes still over there but he wouldnt be loaded like the top dogs. That is one thing I noticed its handy for the likes of DK and the monk to get into these feuds cause they can F off to anywhere they want with their money and their contacts, its the small timers who have to stay and face the bullet.
    Heard he was back but mixed reports on if he plans to follow his mot out to Oz(she fled there due to threats against her) or stand and fight.Id imagine with his record he would have trouble getting into Oz.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    Any truth in the rumour that a certain EH either drove guns or people away from the scene?

    It was reported taxis were involved in the escapes so maybe there's some truth behind those rumours.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    rondog wrote: »
    Heard he was back but mixed reports on if he plans to follow his mot out to Oz(she fled there due to threats against her) or stand and fight.Id imagine with his record he would have trouble getting into Oz.

    I think it is safe to say there is no hope of him getting into oz unless he does it with a fake passport suppose he could always go to one country from Ireland with hes real one then from that country to oz with a fake one. Who is hes girlfriend?


  • Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭rondog


    'Reports' that a number of taxis were used and were waiting in Charlemont where the van was abandoned,the taxis brought the gang in all different directions/safe houses


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 c1ans7even


    rondog wrote: »
    'Reports' that a number of taxis were used and were waiting in Charlemont where the van was abandoned,the taxis brought the gang in all different directions/safe houses

    I thought they went through the fields up to st vincents gaa club/ malahide road area no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    tomofson wrote: »
    KM JMcG

    How do you guys get to know these names?

    I have found out a few JG has a surname like an old boyband singer, etc.

    Unless he is the above I'd be fascinated to know who dress up guy was. Less interested in flatcap.

    Are these names floated about in bars or how did you all work it out?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    OK did some googling. Name of our patron Saint would have me close to our friend in drag


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    scopper wrote: »
    How do you guys get to know these names?

    I have found out a few JG has a surname like an old boyband singer, etc.

    Unless he is the above I'd be fascinated to know who dress up guy was. Less interested in flatcap.

    Are these names floated about in bars or how did you all work it out?


    Drag ladies initials are PH i think its fairly easy to figure that one out it is kind of obvious


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    tomofson wrote: »
    Drag ladies initials are PH i think its fairly easy to figure that one out it is kind of obvious

    Ha some of us are total newbies to this :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Shadow Play


    tomofson wrote: »
    KM JMcG

    Flatcap isn't JMcG, unless you mean the van driver that waited outside was someone with the initials JMcG?

    Interesting about the various vehicle's/taxis being used to transport the lads away after the hit though. That might possibly explain some of the retaliatory killings after.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Flatcap isn't JMcG, unless you mean the van driver that waited outside was someone with the initials JMcG?

    Interesting about the various vehicle's/taxis being used to transport the lads away after the hit though. That might possibly explain some of the retaliatory killings after.


    Pretty sure flatcap is a J McG and has the same surname as popular hotel owners


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Shadow Play


    tomofson wrote: »
    Pretty sure flatcap is a J McG and has the same surname as popular hotel owners

    Flatcap is a KM also. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Flatcap is a KM also. ;)

    I PM'd you


  • Registered Users Posts: 744 ✭✭✭Breaston Plants


    Can someone Pm me the name of the guy in the wig please? All these initials have my head frazzled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    Can someone Pm me the name of the guy in the wig please? All these initials have my head frazzled.

    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Supernintento Chalmers


    Hmmm, I know someone who's in their 50s and lives in Clontarf.

    Two men arrested in connection with murder of David Byrne, who was shot dead at Regency Hotel http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/two-men-arrested-in-connection-with-murder-of-david-byrne-who-was-shot-dead-at-regency-hotel-34724516.html


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 736 ✭✭✭chillin117




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭PEACEBROTHER


    Another 2 arrested over regency hotel shooting


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    The Monk arrested?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    tomofson wrote: »
    Pretty sure flatcap is a J McG and has the same surname as popular hotel owners
    Thats not who Flatcap is, but I know who your referring to, and hes been mentioned before in this thread. It would be fair to say they would know each other very well though. I see another poster has let the cat out of the bag re Flat cap. He is well known in Tyrone in fairness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    Thats not who Flatcap is, but I know who your referring to, and hes been mentioned before in this thread. It would be fair to say they would know each other very well though. I see another poster has let the cat out of the bag re Flat cap. He is well known in Tyrone in fairness.

    If Flatcap is not JMG was JMG involved at all?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 736 ✭✭✭chillin117


    Like a good movie this thread....The plot thickens....( I love the Enid Blyton definition below !)


    "the plot thickens" in British English

    ► See all translations



    the plot thickens
    humorous


    › said when a situation suddenly becomes more complicated or mysterious:

    "Now there are two men calling her up all the time." "The plot thickens!"

    (Definition of the plot thickens from the Cambridge Advanced Learner’s Dictionary & Thesaurus © Cambridge University Press)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    Father and son arrested. Does that rule the Monk out so??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    chillin117 wrote: »
    Like a good movie this thread....The plot thickens....( I love the Enid Blyton definition below !)


    "the plot thickens" in British English

    ► See all translations



    the plot thickens
    humorous


    › said when a situation suddenly becomes more complicated or mysterious:

    "Now there are two men calling her up all the time." "The plot thickens!"

    (Definition of the plot thickens from the Cambridge Advanced Learner’s Dictionary & Thesaurus © Cambridge University Press)

    I imagine most knew what that meant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Birneybau wrote: »
    I imagine most knew what that meant.

    Are you familiar with the expression 'the thick plottens' though?

    Possibly applicable to the disso/Hutch geniuses who thought it would be a good idea to take on the Kinahan gang...


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Father and son arrested. Does that rule the Monk out so??

    i wouldnt rule it out one been held in clontarf seems a lot like the monk unless the person is just been held there as the other cop shops interview rooms are full. Never thought he would of got his kids involved though,it also says the son was issued with a gim and had his house searched surely if it was the monks son it would have been all over the papers


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    There's a mishandling of this situation by the gardai.
    Flat Cap is known to them. He's thought to be a person of interest into the investigation of a serious crime.

    If this person robbed a Mars Bar in the local Spar his face and name would be all over RTE's Crimecall.

    There's something being very very badly handled by the people we depend on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    humberklog wrote: »
    There's a mishandling of this situation by the gardai.
    Flat Cap is known to them. He's thought to be a person of interest into the investigation of a serious crime.

    If this person robbed a Mars Bar in the local Spar his face and name would be all over RTE's Crimecall.

    There's something being very very badly handled by the people we depend on.

    They are all known to them (heck they are known to half the people who read this thread). Baffling why they don't name names though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Shadow Play


    i wouldnt rule it out one been held in clontarf seems a lot like the monk unless the person is just been held there as the other cop shops interview rooms are full. Never thought he would of got his kids involved though,it also says the son was issued with a gim and had his house searched surely if it was the monks son it would have been all over the papers

    Don't think it is the Monk man. I heard he was (wisely) out of the country at the moment. Unless he has come back?


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    humberklog wrote: »
    There's a mishandling of this situation by the gardai.
    Flat Cap is known to them. He's thought to be a person of interest into the investigation.of on going serious crime.

    If this person robbed a Mars Bar in the local Spar his face and name would be all over RTE's Crimecall.

    There's something being very very badly handled by the people we depend on.

    maybe it could harm his extradition if the plastered his face all over the place he would be claiming he wouldnt get a fair trial and all that carry on


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  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Don't think it is the Monk man. I heard he was (wisely) out of the country at the moment. Unless he has come back?

    hes back about two weeks pal armed gardai have been all over clontarf since he returned


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    i wouldnt rule it out one been held in clontarf seems a lot like the monk unless the person is just been held there as the other cop shops interview rooms are full. Never thought he would of got his kids involved though,it also says the son was issued with a gim and had his house searched surely if it was the monks son it would have been all over the papers

    Sunday world saying associates of the Monk.. PH's father??


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Sunday world saying associates of the Monk.. PH's father??

    i was thinking ph snr at the start but the independent was saying it was a father and son arrested tonight. There is another brother though who was meant to be involved unless its him and his son


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Shadow Play


    hes back about two weeks pal armed gardai have been all over clontarf since he returned

    Oh really? That's interesting!
    I'd still be very surprised if the Monk got his hands dirty like that though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Eroomy


    I can't post links as I'm new here but id guess that its the same father/son that were arrested over Derek Brockwells escape from Tallaght Hospital


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    Eroomy wrote: »
    I can't post links as I'm new here but id guess that its the same father/son that were arrested over Derek Brockwells escape from Tallaght Hospital

    AOD is already on remand currently is he not for the weapons find? But yes that thought did occur to me


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    i was thinking ph snr at the start but the independent was saying it was a father and son arrested tonight. There is another brother though who was meant to be involved unless its him and his son

    My take is its PH Sr, whos son is already in custody, so the media are already half right.

    And also....ex Sinn Fein councillor?


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Eroomy wrote: »
    I can't post links as I'm new here but id guess that its the same father/son that were arrested over Derek Brockwells escape from Tallaght Hospital

    the son is very friendly with the hutches but been held in clontarf is the strange thing


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    My take is its PH Sr, whos son is already in custody, so the media are already half right.

    And also....ex Sinn Fein councillor?

    lol i was trying to find out who dowdalls father was earlier to see if it was him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭DamienDarts


    Could someone pm me who flat cap is please?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    maybe it could harm his extradition if the plastered his face all over the place he would be claiming he wouldnt get a fair trial and all that carry on


    That is a good point.

    But surely with someone that is clearly identifiable and knowing that it might put the general public into danger by being in his vacinity he should named.


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