Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

Gamebred

Not to speculate too much but I dont think the said Gentleman will be with us much longer,a dead man walking as the saying goes.

ziggyman17

time to fight fire with fire........ A secret task force should be set up, with the single aim of wiping this scum gang members off the face of the earth, they should have free rein to quietly go around knocking all gang members off, jailing these bastards does not seem to solve the problem.. Anybody involved in gangland activities should be fair game, if they don't like it, then do not get involved in it....

Gamebred

ziggyman17 wrote: »

time to fight fire with fire........ A secret task force should be set up, with the single aim of wiping this scum gang members off the face of the earth, they should have free rein to quietly go around knocking all gang members off, jailing these bastards does not seem to solve the problem.. Anybody involved in gangland activities should be fair game, if they don't like it, then do not get involved in it....

More fantasy island stuff,Id be in the airport moving out of this country tomorrow if some of the people posting ideas on here were put in charge of the gardai,killing people suspected of being gang member ffs lets bring the death penalty back too while were at it and kill a few more innocent people.

Treepole

Gas reading all the gamer nerds here thinking they are serious police tactics experts because they spent half their lives playing Call of Duty and Air Soft.

Mongfinder General

Gamebred wrote: »

More fantasy island stuff,Id be in the airport moving out of this country tomorrow if some of the people posting ideas on here were put in charge of the gardai,killing people suspected of being gang member ffs lets bring the death penalty back too while were at it and kill a few more innocent people.

No, you wouldn't.

Tilly

ziggyman17 wrote: »

time to fight fire with fire........ A secret task force should be set up, with the single aim of wiping this scum gang members off the face of the earth, they should have free rein to quietly go around knocking all gang members off, jailing these bastards does not seem to solve the problem.. Anybody involved in gangland activities should be fair game, if they don't like it, then do not get involved in it....

That sounds like the start of the A Team

Ally Dick

What happened to these armed guards ? Were they in Dunkin Donuts when the shots rang out ?

http://ie.newsreportr.com/armed-gardai-on-alert-as-kinahan-mob-fly-in-for-boxing-events-herald-ie/

Means Of Escape

And if a member of the ERU popped the two goons on their way into the hotel there would be public outcry rather than a televised medal ceremony .

Means Of Escape

bajer101 wrote: »

It was a job done by professionals and planned by a very clever fella.

Here's a true story about the same clever fella. He was out one night driving one of his taxis for the craic and he dropped off couple of lads at a halting site in Coolock. The lads did a runner.

The Gardai have a bit of trouble going into this halting site. It usually takes a a lot of planning and major support if they need to to do a raid. But the very next morning a JCB trundled up the N32 and turned into the halting estate and proceeded to plough through walls and every other structure in its path doing tens of thousands worth of damage. Lads came pouring out of the caravans with guns and surrounded the JCB. The legend goes, that the man himself stepped out of the JCB alone. The boss man on the site ran out and saw who it was and asked what the problem was. The Monk said that a couple of lads had done a runner from his taxi. The boss man put his hand in his pocket and peeled off a few hundred euro and handed it over and apologised.

Never saw that Steven Seagal movie.

lukesmom

Tilly wrote: »

That sounds like the start of the A Team

Collie D

Means Of Escape wrote: »

And if a member of the ERU popped the two goons on their way into the hotel there would be public outcry rather than a televised medal ceremony .

You believe too much of the right wing moaning about "bleeding heart liberal agendas (or whatever their current catchphrase is)" if you think that's true. If the Guards killed a couple of guys about to use high powered assault rifles I'm pretty sure 99.9% of people would have no issue.

mynamejeff

Collie D wrote: »

You believe too much of the right wing moaning about "bleeding heart liberal agendas (or whatever their current catchphrase is)" if you think that's true. If the Guards killed a couple of guys about to use high powered assault rifles I'm pretty sure 99.9% of people would have no issue.

Ya but theres always that small vocal group

remember when two armed post office robbers were shot during a robbery in lusk years ago and the gardai who did it were dragged through the courts for years afterwards ?

Captain Chaos

mynamejeff wrote: »

Ya but theres always that small vocal group

remember when two armed post office robbers were shot during a robbery in lusk years ago and the gardai who did it were dragged through the courts for years afterwards ?

This exactly.

Even now in the UK firearms officers are afraid to shoot for fear of being tried for murder. Alot of them are leaving and going back to patrol cars.

There is far to much right wing outcry here and in the UK. A more left wing approach would sort alot of social issues out across the board.

Collie D

mynamejeff wrote: »

Ya but theres always that small vocal group

remember when two armed post office robbers were shot during a robbery in lusk years ago and the gardai who did it were dragged through the courts for years afterwards ?

Were they? Genuine question. Don't ever remember hearing that. I remember the incident all right.

Off topic but Googled it there to refresh memory and it's mentioned on Lusk's Wikipedia page..found that a bit odd.

tayto lover

Collie D wrote: »

You believe too much of the right wing moaning about "bleeding heart liberal agendas (or whatever their current catchphrase is)" if you think that's true. If the Guards killed a couple of guys about to use high powered assault rifles I'm pretty sure 99.9% of people would have no issue.

And you're on another thread lambasting them for dealing too roughly with a riot today.:rolleyes:

dakid

Gamebred wrote:

Not to speculate too much but I dont think the said Gentleman will be with us much longer,a dead man walking as the saying goes.

Thanks for not speculating too much........

Collie D

tayto lover wrote: »

And you're on another thread lambasting them for dealing too roughly with a riot today.:rolleyes:

Big difference between hitting a cameraman and taking down two guns with machine guys. Would you not agree?

Luke92

tayto lover wrote: »

And you're on another thread lambasting them for dealing too roughly with a riot today.:rolleyes:

Two completely different situations and threads. Has nothing to do with this discussion.

mynamejeff

Collie D wrote: »

Were they? Genuine question. Don't ever remember hearing that. I remember the incident all right.

Off topic but Googled it there to refresh memory and it's mentioned on Lusk's Wikipedia page..found that a bit odd.

Amnesty International, GSOC as well as a criminal case and a corners court all got to question the clearly justified actions.

as well as an attempt by the family's of the thieves to sue in the civil courts.

in this case scum on scum hit just a shame that normal people had to be there to see the blood

Also i guess not a lot happens in Lusk usually

Mr. CooL ICE

tayto lover wrote: »

And you're on another thread lambasting them for dealing too roughly with a riot today.:rolleyes:

Mod:

As said by others, these are two completely different situations. Don't derail.

Collie D

mynamejeff wrote: »

Amnesty International, GSOC as well as a criminal case and a corners court all got to question the clearly justified actions.

as well as an attempt by the family's of the thieves to sue in the civil courts.

in this case scum on scum hit just a shame that normal people had to be there to see the blood

Also i guess not a lot happens in Lusk usually

Ah, OK. The GSOC investigation and coroner's court would be standard and rightly so. The civil case is a bit of a pisstake though...assume it was thrown out.

end of the road

mynamejeff wrote: »

Ya but theres always that small vocal group

remember when two armed post office robbers were shot during a robbery in lusk years ago and the gardai who did it were dragged through the courts for years afterwards ?

yeah what about them? dragging them through the courts was a necessary evil. they have to justify their use of force and the other side has to justify why the force wasn't necessary. thats how it should be. it protects the officers and it protects us

mynamejeff wrote: »

Amnesty International, GSOC as well as a criminal case and a corners court all got to question the clearly justified actions.

and the actions were found justified weren't they? so whats your problem? i see no issue here.

mynamejeff

end of the road wrote: »

yeah what about them? dragging them through the courts was a necessary evil. they have to justify their use of force and the other side has to justify why the force wasn't necessary. thats how it should be. it protects the officers and it protects us



and the actions were found justified weren't they? so whats your problem? i see no issue here.

sorry eotr i dont talk to trolls

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Gamebred wrote: »

More fantasy island stuff,Id be in the airport moving out of this country tomorrow if some of the people posting ideas on here were put in charge of the gardai,killing people suspected of being gang member ffs lets bring the death penalty back too while were at it and kill a few more innocent people.

Just kill everybody. Sure, most people are innocent of any wrong doing, but the bad guys will be done away with too

Maximus Alexander

I say we take off and nuke the entire country from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Tilly

All joking aside: you have a hit on you. The cops told you. Do they actually protect you? And if so, in what way?

A heads up or they actually mark you with your consent? I don't get what happens when the guards tell you there's a hit on you?

leavingirl

3 999 calls went unanswered. What a disgrace. What an embarrassment. You'd almost think they didn't want to know about it.

What a country. The hotel manager eventually called the personal phone of a detective friend to raise the alert. Lol. Almost proves the old adage about ireland -it's who you know that will get you by.

I'm sure heads will roll now. GSOC will investigate. Will they ****! They are you busy reading your personal mails!

What a joke!

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/rampage-three-999-calls-unanswered-as-gunmen-launched-shooting-spree-34430021.html

JustTheOne

leavingirl wrote: »

3 999 calls went unanswered. What a disgrace. What an embarrassment. You'd almost think they didn't want to know about it.

What a country. The hotel manager eventually called the personal phone of a detective friend to raise the alert. Lol. Almost proves the old adage about ireland -it's who you know that will get you by.

I'm sure heads will roll now. GSOC will investigate. Will they ****! They are you busy reading your personal mails!

What a joke!

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/rampage-three-999-calls-unanswered-as-gunmen-launched-shooting-spree-34430021.html

I'd say there is more to that story like phone signal or something else maybe.

Dialing 999 will always get you through to someone.

arayess

leavingirl wrote: »

3 999 calls went unanswered. What a disgrace. What an embarrassment. You'd almost think they didn't want to know about it.

What a country. The hotel manager eventually called the personal phone of a detective friend to raise the alert. Lol. Almost proves the old adage about ireland -it's who you know that will get you by.

I'm sure heads will roll now. GSOC will investigate. Will they ****! They are you busy reading your personal mails!

What a joke!

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/rampage-three-999-calls-unanswered-as-gunmen-launched-shooting-spree-34430021.html

that story is a joke. a non story.

The hotel manager didn't get through. Given there were 300 or so in attendance it's not unreasonable to assume others were clogging the phone lines reporting the same incident.
Can the hotel manager prove his call to his pal was the one that got the gardai there ...no .
it's a non story - the ambulance and gardai were there very quickly by all accounts.

JRant

leavingirl wrote: »

3 999 calls went unanswered. What a disgrace. What an embarrassment. You'd almost think they didn't want to know about it.

What a country. The hotel manager eventually called the personal phone of a detective friend to raise the alert. Lol. Almost proves the old adage about ireland -it's who you know that will get you by.

I'm sure heads will roll now. GSOC will investigate. Will they ****! They are you busy reading your personal mails!

What a joke!

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/rampage-three-999-calls-unanswered-as-gunmen-launched-shooting-spree-34430021.html

The irony here is that a garda station right across the road from the Regency was closed down due to cutbacks.

BMJD

leavingirl wrote: »

3 999 calls went unanswered. What a disgrace. What an embarrassment. You'd almost think they didn't want to know about it.

What a country. The hotel manager eventually called the personal phone of a detective friend to raise the alert. Lol. Almost proves the old adage about ireland -it's who you know that will get you by.

I'm sure heads will roll now. GSOC will investigate. Will they ****! They are you busy reading your personal mails!

What a joke!

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/rampage-three-999-calls-unanswered-as-gunmen-launched-shooting-spree-34430021.html

Around four minutes after his phone call, the first fire brigade arrived at the scene, followed by an ambulance and then the gardai arrived.

Sounds like a good response to me. There were probably hundreds of simultaneous 999/112 calls going out. Your man who runs the hotel is probably in a bit of shock.

JustTheOne

JRant wrote: »

The irony here is that a garda station right across the road from the Regency was closed down due to cutbacks.

Whats ironic about that?

JRant

JustTheOne wrote: »

Whats ironic about that?

Have a guess.

SEPT 23 1989

They have photos of two of the gunmen unmasked leaving the hotel

It's the little things that trip you up

JustTheOne

JRant wrote: »

Have a guess.

You need to look up the definition of irony.

JRant

JustTheOne wrote: »

You need to look up the definition of irony.

No I don't.

Mr. CooL ICE

mynamejeff wrote: »

sorry eotr i dont talk to trolls

Mod:

Don't accuse other posters of trolling. If you have a problem with a post, use the report function.

JustTheOne

JRant wrote: »

No I don't.

A garda station closing because of cutbacks and then a crime taking place nearby isn't ironic.

Irony would be if it closed because they thought there would be no crime in the area anymore.

hardCopy

ziggyman17 wrote: »

time to fight fire with fire........ A secret task force should be set up, with the single aim of wiping this scum gang members off the face of the earth, they should have free rein to quietly go around knocking all gang members off, jailing these bastards does not seem to solve the problem.. Anybody involved in gangland activities should be fair game, if they don't like it, then do not get involved in it....

Maybe there is no feud, maybe all these killings are being preformed by some secret vigilante force and blamed on rival gangs...

Titzon Toast

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

They have photos of two of the gunmen unmasked leaving the hotel

It's the little things that trip you up

Have you seen them? If so, can you post a link please?

arayess

Titzon Toast wrote: »

Have you seen them? If so, can you post a link please?

front page of sunday world, print edition anyway

BMJD

It's on the Sunday World Facebook page, pixelated

Titzon Toast

arayess wrote: »

front page of sunday world, print edition anyway

That's some twist in the plot, usually these hitmen just melt away anonymously but the instigators are known.
Dublin is a small town, someone will recognise them.

Gamebred

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/dramatic-picture-dublin-boxing-weigh-7325721


Theres the pictures there,already indentified Id say enjoy the life sentence lads.

Titzon Toast

Gamebred wrote: »

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/dramatic-picture-dublin-boxing-weigh-7325721


Theres the pictures there,already indentified Id say enjoy the life sentence lads.

I doubt they'll get to serve them!
All the planning, wigs, costumes, secrecy. And for what? Their pictures are up on the front cover of a national newspaper ffs.
Two more dead men walking I reckon.

Gamebred

Titzon Toast wrote: »

I doubt they'll get to serve them!
All the planning, wigs, costumes, secrecy. And for what? Their pictures are up on the front cover of a national newspaper ffs.
Two more dead men walking I reckon.

Yeah they would be better of getting brought into custody asap for their own safety,


Presume a member of the public took these pics? If I seen men with guns near me I sure as hell wouldnt be taking pictures.

Breaston Plants

Why are their faces pixilated?

arayess

Breaston Plants wrote: »

Why are their faces pixilated?

the articles basically accuse them of being involved. That has yet to be proven.
If they showed their faces they'd be libeling them
also probably they could be in trouble for preventing the lads getting a fair trial.

until we see the real photos I don't think we can say they'll be easily identifiable. The "woman" by all account was heavily made up and we don't know if the other lad had a disguise on.
I'm guessing he would have or there would be 300 or so eyes witness to point the finger which they would have anticipated in their planning.

Gamebred

arayess wrote: »

the articles bascially accuse them of being involved. That has yet to be proven.
If they showed their faces they'd be libelling them
also probably they could be in trouble for preventing the lads getting a fair trial.

until we see the real photos I don't think we can say they'll be easily identifiable. The "woman" by all account was heavily made up and we don't know if the other lad had a disguise on.
I'm guessing he would have or there would be 300 or so eyes witness to point the finger which they would have anticipated in their planning.

The police probably have a strong suspicion of who was involved in the shooting I'd hazard a guess and say the faces will be recognizable to them,even the body type of the guy on the right,all he has is a cap on it appears so he should be handy enough to identify.

Phoebas

Gamebred wrote: »

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/dramatic-picture-dublin-boxing-weigh-7325721


Theres the pictures there,already indentified Id say enjoy the life sentence lads.

The person who took that picture might soon be regretting taking it when they are asked to give evidence in the court case.