Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

Spanish Eyes

gangstergossip wrote: »

i think eddie hutch was from what i hear i certain person from crumlin is enraged his brother was killed and is adamant hes going to put the hutch family through hell, hes supposed to be an egotistical phsycopath and wont stop untill theres none left

What? Can you do that again thanks.

Peter Anthony

gangstergossip wrote: »

i think eddie hutch was from what i hear i certain person from crumlin is enraged his brother was killed and is adamant hes going to put the hutch family through hell, hes supposed to be an egotistical phsycopath and wont stop untill theres none left

yes he also obviously has no fear as he was out in pubs in Lucan carefree last week watching Liverpool embarrass themselves again lol There has been no word either on the Perma tanned one, I dont think they have any fear now they know the score it seems they are untouchable, but who knows what will happen next, everyday it gets more messsed up it seems

FalconGirl

gangstergossip wrote: »

i think eddie hutch was from what i hear i certain person from crumlin is enraged his brother was killed and is adamant hes going to put the hutch family through hell, hes supposed to be an egotistical phsycopath and wont stop untill theres none left

Is it not obvious that clown is likely directing all of this and probably without authority from above. He's a danger to society in general. Wouldn't like him out in my local.

twowheelsonly

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

You make your own luck.

They have a wealthy uncle (or whatever relation) and he abandoned them and they are being murdered one by one.

They need to ask him why. Or maybe the uncle knows already. But he is no angel either I would imagine. Although he appears to be, having paid the CAB back for the robbery of millions.

Like paying taxes, you will be left with at least half anyway. LOL.

It was his nephews that allegedly / supposedly / possibly started all of this.
They then hit back to revenge Garys death at the Regency.

It's actually quite possible that he actually had nothing to do with this kicking off. This younger set are a different breed to the Monk and his peers and they all think they're untouchable so I'd wonder do they even listen to him or have any dealings with him. It's well known that he didn't have a lot of time for Gary and saw him as a loose cannon. Why then would he want to invite them all into his kitchen ??

I had a wealthy Uncle once, since deceased. He was at the upper end of wealthy but even when I had sweet FA or all the troubles in the world it never crossed my mind that he had abandoned us. He lived his life with his family and we all lived ours. Like all families we'd meet up and have a pint at weddings & funerals etc but who's doing what never came into it.

If the Monk had very little to do with these fellas before then why the hell would he want to do so now ? I know that he's close to some of them but definitely not to all of them by a long shot.

Spanish Eyes

They should get the hell out of Dodge and change their names by deed poll to something other than Hutch. New passports and all the rest of it.

Sorry I am probably dreaming here. But if I were in their shoes that's what I would do.

There are surnames that are toxic, and to be fair Hutch is not a surname that is like Byrne, Ryan, or Smyth etc.!

But I suppose, unless they can move from the flats it's not worth it. If they can't move from there, they don't need a deed poll new passport!

Anyway, Just thinking out loud here.

coniosumadre

Highly unlikely something like the regency happened without his blessing (and more importantly) his money. Although the other brother probably had a more active role.

tomofson

gangstergossip wrote: »

as far as i know the guy with the same surname as the brothers is on the run dont know the other guys name

Okay if you find out tell us

shane.

gangstergossip wrote: »

i think eddie hutch was from what i hear i certain person from crumlin is enraged his brother was killed and is adamant hes going to put the hutch family through hell, hes supposed to be an egotistical phsycopath and wont stop untill theres none left

How are the cops not following this guy day and night since they are camped outside his house all the time

shane.

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

They should get the hell out of Dodge and change their names by deed poll to something other than Hutch. New passports and all the rest of it.

Sorry I am probably dreaming here. But if I were in their shoes that's what I would do.

There are surnames that are toxic, and to be fair Hutch is not a surname that is like Byrne, Ryan, or Smyth etc.!

But I suppose, unless they can move from the flats it's not worth it. If they can't move from there, they don't need a deed poll new passport!

Anyway, Just thinking out loud here.

Please stop!

Gamebred

I personally doubt Eddie Hutch was 100% innocent in this,its not far fetched to think he played a part in the hotel in a logistics capacity at least,I also lived beside him maybe 20 years ago and anyone who did would know what kind of man he was,not a great father thats for sure I dont believe in speaking ill of the dead so ill leave it at that.

tomofson

Gamebred wrote: »

I personally doubt Eddie Hutch was 100% innocent in this,its not far fetched to think he played a part in the hotel in a logistics capacity at least,I also lived beside him maybe 20 years ago and anyone who did would know what kind of man he was,not a great father thats for sure I dont believe in speaking ill of the dead so ill leave it at that.

I heard nothing but good about him to be honest.

Gamebred

tomofson wrote: »

I heard nothing but good about him to be honest.

Again he might of changed but what I know of first hand isnt flattering.

Peter Anthony

If it appears now that the New INLA are firmly involved it will be interesting. Then there is also the Old school INLA who decommisioned etc who woulld still be very strong esp up North but only to protect their guys and wouldnt get into something like this. Then finally there is Whacker Duffy and his crew, who was the Ex INLA boss in Dublin, who have no part. They also all have issues with each other

Appears that most factions in the North are keeping out of this, so far. Anyone who knows the stories regarding the INLA eg the Ballymount bloodbath, many other things would know how volatile these guys are. It also seems like these New INLA guys are small numbers, not smart but psychotic, and get their kicks from torturing people

tomofson

Peter Anthony wrote: »

If it appears now that the New INLA are firmly involved it will be interesting. Then there is also the Old school INLA who decommisioned etc who woulld still be very strong esp up North but only to protect their guys and wouldnt get into something like this. Then finally there is Whacker Duffy and his crew, who was the Ex INLA boss in Dublin, who have no part. They also all have issues with each other

Appears that most factions in the North are keeping out of this, so far. Anyone who knows the stories regarding the INLA eg the Ballymount bloodbath, many other things would know how volatile these guys are. It also seems like these New INLA guys are small numbers, not smart but psychotic, and get their kicks from torturing people

The guys involved in this killing are only small time players and barely even associates of the "New INLA" they certainly would not be able to dictate if the new INLA joined the feud or not. Plus this was more a personalized killing which I believe started over damage to a car a few months ago and escalated into murder.

Peter Anthony

tomofson wrote: »

The guys involved in this killing are only small time players and barely even associates of the "New INLA" they certainly would not be able to dictate if the new INLA joined the feud or not. Plus this was more a personalized killing which I believe started over damage to a car a few months ago and escalated into murder.

1 of them would be one of the more well known guys anyway, although what regard he is held in I'm not sure. Judging by this incident, if it turns out this is true, well it appears brains are lacking and this like you say more of a solo run. With this and the nail gun crucifixation , doesnt seem criminal mastermind stuff.

Tbh I think the papers are blowing smoke up the arses of this grouping, I doubt they are well organised, probably 20 or less people involved in any way and already a couple down

Gamebred

The ''new inla'' as they are being called will be wiped out soon as they annoy the wrong person,the vicious cycle will continue they will probably extort people tax some low level drug dealers then push their luck and annoy someone like Mr.Big who will take them out with ease.

tomofson

Peter Anthony wrote: »

1 of them would be one of the more well known guys anyway, although what regard he is held in I'm not sure. Judging by this incident, if it turns out this is true, well it appears brains are lacking and this like you say more of a solo run. With this and the nail gun crucifixation , doesnt seem criminal mastermind stuff.

Tbh I think the papers are blowing smoke up the arses of this grouping, I doubt they are well organised, probably 20 or less people involved in any way and already a couple down

The media do big them up they are definitely unorganized and dysfunctional. The guy just so happened to be caught in a bomb making factory but he is in no way a leading figure even in that unorganized dysfunctioning group

tomofson

Gamebred wrote: »

The ''new inla'' as they are being called will be wiped out soon as they annoy the wrong person,the vicious cycle will continue they will probably extort people tax some low level drug dealers then push their luck and annoy someone like Mr.Big who will take them out with ease.

Definitely like what happened with alan ryan alls you have to do is take out the head and the rest will destroy themselves. All alan ryans old crowd are either dead in prison or facing serious charges.

gangstergossip

shane. wrote: »

How are the cops not following this guy day and night since they are camped outside his house all the time

Thats the million dollar question but hes not committing these hits himself but hes getting them done and the guards know whos doing them. They are following the hitmen connected to the hutch side constantly which is why they have not been able to strike back but are still not keeping constant watch on the cartels guys even after all these murders. Do the guards really believe the hutch side is so dangerous they warrant all their attention or could there be something more sinister at play?

Bicky bicky

gangstergossip wrote: »

Thats the million dollar question but hes not committing these hits himself but hes getting them done and the guards know whos doing them. They are following the hitmen connected to the hutch side constantly which is why they have not been able to strike back but are still not keeping constant watch on the cartels guys even after all these murders. Do the guards really believe the hutch side is so dangerous they warrant all their attention or could there be something more sinister at play?

Disso links has not helped the hutches and lack of free flowing money would be my opinion.Any truth to the claim the penguin Mitchell is trying to broke peace between both side?

gangstergossip

Bicky bicky wrote: »

Disso links has not helped the hutches and lack of free flowing money would be my opinion.Any truth to the claim the penguin Mitchell is trying to broke peace between both side?

The disso links would be a big part of it id suspect but cant help but think the gardai are bit more cartel sided than they should be. The hitmen on the hutch side dont want money there literally doing this for their lives if they dont kill a few of the leading members and change the tide of the feud its only a matter of time before they are killed. Never heard that now but i heard the penguin was involved from the start and is hutch sided he was supposedly involved n the planning to take daniel out and was going to take over the costas with the hutches. Hes very close friends with a dutch cyber criminal who has an underground communications bunker in germany they do be with each other daily. Dont forget the cctv in the regency was hacked the day before the attack do you see the pattern here

Bicky bicky

I knew that theory is out there for cooperation to take over Kinahans drug empire do you believe that theory? I wanted to believe the robbery St Stephens green and money not been paid back theory but yours opinion sounds more plausible

Irish illegal drugs market worth a conservative 2.5 billion a year. This feud must be losing all major dealers serious money and obviously serious heat from Irish law enforcement and aboard!

The Garda escorts and info leaks for the crumlin crew is worrying but money talks plus there is serious focus on that aspect now so hopefully it's stamped out!

gangstergossip

Bicky bicky wrote: »

I knew that theory is out there for cooperation to take over Kinahans drug empire do you believe that theory? I wanted to believe the robbery St Stephens green and money not been paid back theory but yours opinion sounds more plausible

Irish illegal drugs market worth a conservative 2.5 billion a year. This feud must be losing all major dealers serious money and obviously serious heat from Irish law enforcement and aboard!

The Garda escorts and info leaks for the crumlin crew is worrying but money talks plus there is serious focus on that aspect now so hopefully it's stamped out!

i believe both theories are tied together after operation shovel all the cartels assets were frozen they tried to put on a brave face and act like it was business as usual but they were terrified another outfit were going to take over because they couldnt fund there shipments. gary hutch was good friends with daniel at the time and had done the bank job/tiger kidnapping a few months before but had not figured out how to launder the money, the cartel wanted a loan anf the hutches thought they could buy themselves into top of the cartel. It was agreed the money would be given tp the cartel and when they got back on their feet gary would be paid back with interest and when christy sr stepped back to move into the property business daniel and gary would take over as joint partners. Time went by the cartel were back on their feet and gary never got paid back and was still an underboss to daniel the hutch family were putting pressure on gary to get his money back then the ketamine and cannabis bust happened in england and the cartel said gary had to have tipped off the police. They said the shipment was roughly what they owed gary so it cancelled out the debt, gary denied he was a rat and the cartel agreed to spare his life since the debt was clear but daniel had him killed anyway. Then the hutches teamed up with the penguin and the rest is history

Bicky bicky

I believe the threats against INM journalist in February really got the truth out in this feud on line anyway as real accurate info was put out in public domain without fear of print libal laws does anyone know which gang had threatened said jounos and if still active?

So would the consensus be both head of gangs (monk and Christy k)are not leading this feud and neither can stop this?

arayess

gangstergossip wrote: »

Thats the million dollar question but hes not committing these hits himself but hes getting them done and the guards know whos doing them. They are following the hitmen connected to the hutch side constantly which is why they have not been able to strike back but are still not keeping constant watch on the cartels guys even after all these murders. Do the guards really believe the hutch side is so dangerous they warrant all their attention or could there be something more sinister at play?

hard to say.
it's not been argued against that the cartel's best hitmen have sided with the hutch side.

the hutch side is smaller so its probably easier to keep tabs on thus preventing (or trying too) the hutch folk being shot but also keeping them from going on a rampage. It's easier to follow the known people while it's fairly evident too that the kinahans are happy to pay junkie types to do suicide missions rather than hire in some real pros.
this is harder to monitor as it's more random and scattergun stuff.

I'm not sure the penguin is involved, he has a lot of resources and unless they are holding back purposely and weathering a storm , I don't see how the hutch's haven;t hit back with his backing of money and other stuff.

but who knows their plan?

gangstergossip

arayess wrote: »

hard to say.
it's not been argued against that the cartel's best hitmen have sided with the hutch side.

the hutch side is smaller so its probably easier to keep tabs on thus preventing (or trying too) the hutch folk being shot but also keeping them from going on a rampage. It's easier to follow the known people while it's fairly evident too that the kinahans are happy to pay junkie types to do suicide missions rather than hire in some real pros.
this is harder to monitor as it's more random and scattergun stuff.

I'm not sure the penguin is involved, he has a lot of resources and unless they are holding back purposely and weathering a storm , I don't see how the hutch's haven;t hit back with his backing of money and other stuff.

but who knows their plan?

At the start i believed the same but what im hearing now is only one of the cartels best hitmen sided with the hutches the others are very much still on the cartel side and loyal to the money. After eddie hutches murder the gardai and media knew in hours who was responsible but they were not monitored and were able to carry out the killings of duggan and then barr with ease. The killing of martin orourke and gareth hutch id agree was pretty much hard to stop. The penguin was involved in all the planning stages of this i was told he supposedly was taking over with the hutches if the regency had gone to plan as gerry wouldnt directly be involved in drugs in such a way, but when the regency attack didnt go as plan i think he pulled back and left the hutch's to fend for themselves

gangstergossip

Bicky bicky wrote: »

I believe the threats against INM journalist in February really got the truth out in this feud on line anyway as real accurate info was put out in public domain without fear of print libal laws does anyone know which gang had threatened said jounos and if still active?

So would the consensus be both head of gangs (monk and Christy k)are not leading this feud and neither can stop this?

From what i hear the threats came from a crumlin man who lost his brother in a infamous hotel attack dont know if the threat is still active but id suspect they were made when the family was grieving. No neither are leading the feud and i think both would liked it to end but know its gone to far now. The monk was reluctant to get involved from the start but did so as a favor to his brother who was demanding revenge. Christy stepped back out of the business before gary was even killed if he had of been in charge i dont think that would of ever happened, he has pulled his son out now as well and is keeping him close by and is letting the crumlin crew run the feud, when all the hutch side is wiped out it will just be back to business for them

Peter Anthony

arayess wrote: »

I'm not sure the penguin is involved, he has a lot of resources and unless they are holding back purposely and weathering a storm , I don't see how the hutch's haven;t hit back with his backing of money and other stuff.

Front of todays Daily Star , although as always take with a pinch of salt. Better headline would have been "Penguin Waddles in to Feud"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cjg_SNzWEAAmH8H.jpg:large

gangstergossip

they seem to be starting to write some truth now

www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/woman-quizzed-by-gardai-over-involvement-in-gareth-hutch-killing

arayess

gangstergossip wrote: »

At the start i believed the same but what im hearing now is only one of the cartels best hitmen sided with the hutches the others are very much still on the cartel side and loyal to the money. After eddie hutches murder the gardai and media knew in hours who was responsible but they were not monitored and were able to carry out the killings of duggan and then barr with ease. The killing of martin orourke and gareth hutch id agree was pretty much hard to stop. The penguin was involved in all the planning stages of this i was told he supposedly was taking over with the hutches if the regency had gone to plan as gerry wouldnt directly be involved in drugs in such a way, but when the regency attack didnt go as plan i think he pulled back and left the hutch's to fend for themselves

can't argue with any of that

nacho libre

With the pressure on the guards from their commissioner to get results, to stem the bad publicity coming her way of late, against the Kinahans mob, the monk, through his associate the Penguin, should be using this angle to try and bring about a settlement. I guess Kinahan senior won't at the moment be open to that, but if some of his key people are arrested and charged, he then might be persuaded to seek a ceasefire.

Supernintento Chalmers

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Front of todays Daily Star , although as always take with a pinch of salt. Better headline would have been "Penguin Waddles in to Feud"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cjg_SNzWEAAmH8H.jpg:large

They couldn't even get that right

shane.

gangstergossip wrote: »

they seem to be starting to write some truth now

www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/woman-quizzed-by-gardai-over-involvement-in-gareth-hutch-killing

Who flew back from Dubai?

Contributor 2013

Ok. I'm fúcking tired of this shít.

Who is up for starting a "Group" who have access to firearms and scumbags locations and putting an end to this?

I am.

Everyone seems to know who these drug dealing>family ruining> scrotes are, and yet we sit here and type about it?

Or should we wait until the next person/father/son/brother/uncle is killed in a case of "mistaken identity"!?!?

These criminals have so much access to fire arms > cannot believe us citizens don't have access to the same if not more - if the government/guards aren't willing to put an end to this, why aren't we?

Will they arrest us? For stopping scumbags from endangering our families?

Who is trying to board and who is travelling, MAKE YOURSELVES KNOWN.

1916 we were facing a country. 2016 we are facing a small amount of drug dealing scumbags? Can we as people not come together an beat this!? Really?

pablo128

Contributor 2013 wrote: »

1916 we were facing a country. 2016 we are facing a small amount of drug dealing scumbags? Can we as people not come together an beat this!? Really?

'We' are not facing anything. The Hutches are. But by all means go ahead if you feel strongly about it.

Uncle Ben

Mad .

chillin117

Will you run away when you shoot them or hang around ''To make a stand'' ?
Cant see many more Christmas dinners heading your way either way.

Contributor 2013

pablo128 wrote: »

'We' are not facing anything. The Hutches are. But by all means go ahead if you feel strongly about it.

Sorry I missed what "the hutches" are facing.

Is it a nation of people tired of seeing murders in their capital city as a result of drugs, or is it something else.

Please enlighten me.

tomofson

Contributor 2013 wrote: »

Ok. I'm fúcking tired of this shít.

Who is up for starting a "Group" who have access to firearms and scumbags locations and putting an end to this?

I am.

Everyone seems to know who these drug dealing>family ruining> scrotes are, and yet we sit here and type about it?

Or should we wait until the next person/father/son/brother/uncle is killed in a case of "mistaken identity"!?!?

These criminals have so much access to fire arms > cannot believe us citizens don't have access to the same if not more - if the government/guards aren't willing to put an end to this, why aren't we?

Will they arrest us? For stopping scumbags from endangering our families?

Who is trying to board and who is travelling, MAKE YOURSELVES KNOWN.

1916 we were facing a country. 2016 we are facing a small amount of drug dealing scumbags? Can we as people not come together an beat this!? Really?

A very walter mitty thing to say

Gamebred

Contributor 2013 wrote: »

Ok. I'm fúcking tired of this shít.

Who is up for starting a "Group" who have access to firearms and scumbags locations and putting an end to this?

I am.

Everyone seems to know who these drug dealing>family ruining> scrotes are, and yet we sit here and type about it?

Or should we wait until the next person/father/son/brother/uncle is killed in a case of "mistaken identity"!?!?

These criminals have so much access to fire arms > cannot believe us citizens don't have access to the same if not more - if the government/guards aren't willing to put an end to this, why aren't we?

Will they arrest us? For stopping scumbags from endangering our families?

Who is trying to board and who is travelling, MAKE YOURSELVES KNOWN.

1916 we were facing a country. 2016 we are facing a small amount of drug dealing scumbags? Can we as people not come together an beat this!? Really?

LOL funniest post ive read on Boards congrats you gave me a good laugh rambo.

Contributor 2013

tomofson wrote: »

A very walter mitty thing to say

my name is Paddy McGuiness. Just for the record.

Not really, don't hunt him down.

pablo128

Contributor 2013 wrote: »

Sorry I missed what "the hutches" are facing.

Is it a nation of people tired of seeing murders in their capital city as a result of drugs, or is it something else.

Please enlighten me.

And your answer is to murder more people, Batman style. And you are on here looking for volunteers.

LOL.:rolleyes:

Contributor 2013

Lads sit here typing;

or take action to stop the rest of our families in Dublin being at risk of mistaken identity.

I know what I want to do.

Anyone else out there who wants the same thing?

Uncle Ben

Contributor 2013 wrote: »

Ok. I'm fúcking tired of this shít.

Who is up for starting a "Group" who have access to firearms and scumbags locations and putting an end to this?

I am.

Everyone seems to know who these drug dealing>family ruining> scrotes are, and yet we sit here and type about it?

Or should we wait until the next person/father/son/brother/uncle is killed in a case of "mistaken identity"!?!?

These criminals have so much access to fire arms > cannot believe us citizens don't have access to the same if not more - if the government/guards aren't willing to put an end to this, why aren't we?

Will they arrest us? For stopping scumbags from endangering our families?

Who is trying to board and who is travelling, MAKE YOURSELVES KNOWN.

1916 we were facing a country. 2016 we are facing a small amount of drug dealing scumbags? Can we as people not come together an beat this!? Really?

Maybe you should ask the Hutches to join your Group.

Contributor 2013

pablo128 wrote: »

And your answer is to murder more people, Batman style. And you are on here looking for volunteers.

LOL.:rolleyes:

I am looking for citizens who are tired of people being murdered who are not involved in any gangland/drugs stuff,,... Yea I dont have an actual blood relative...I wonder if you tlak to the children some people fathers who haven't been given the option and never were on who to leave behind,...what would they like us, as neighbors and citizens to do on behalf on innocent people who lost their lives because of scumbags?

Contributor 2013

Uncle Ben wrote: »

Maybe you should ask the Hutches to join your Group.

if the hutches are open to stop "gangland hits" which can sometime result in innocent people dying and leaving behind families, tell them to contact me.

Contributor 2013

oh so quiet now.

keyboard warriors.

Give you the real option > actually dio something

you all want to hypothesize why it cant be done; rather than look sta the reality > as the drug dealers do

1) more of us than there is of guards
2) we can control our area better than the under staffed and under funded guards
3) we the people are actually a bigger and better collective than the scrotes and scumbags who deal drugs.

Wake up Eire.

shane.

Contributor 2013 wrote: »

Ok. I'm fúcking tired of this shít.

Who is up for starting a "Group" who have access to firearms and scumbags locations and putting an end to this?

I am.

Everyone seems to know who these drug dealing>family ruining> scrotes are, and yet we sit here and type about it?

Or should we wait until the next person/father/son/brother/uncle is killed in a case of "mistaken identity"!?!?

These criminals have so much access to fire arms > cannot believe us citizens don't have access to the same if not more - if the government/guards aren't willing to put an end to this, why aren't we?

Will they arrest us? For stopping scumbags from endangering our families?

Who is trying to board and who is travelling, MAKE YOURSELVES KNOWN.

1916 we were facing a country. 2016 we are facing a small amount of drug dealing scumbags? Can we as people not come together an beat this!? Really?

U lost me at the 1916 part

dinorebel

Contributor 2013 wrote: »

oh so quiet now.

keyboard warriors.

Give you the real option > actually dio something

you all want to hypothesize why it cant be done; rather than look sta the reality > as the drug dealers do

1) more of us than there is of guards
2) we can control our area better than the under staffed and under funded guards
3) we the people are actually a bigger and better collective than the scrotes and scumbags who deal drugs.

Wake up Eire.

I'm guessing irony passes you by.

Contributor 2013

pablo128 wrote: »

'We' are not facing anything. The Hutches are. But by all means go ahead if you feel strongly about it.

Sure, wait until one of your extended family is killed by mistake because he is wearing the same jacket as a target.

We're not facing anything> besides more risk of our children becoming involved. Nothing at all so.