Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

seerscryer

coniosumadre wrote: »

Peter Anthony wrote: »

gangstergossip wrote: »

This guy is the biggest player the hutches have but hes under constant surveillance by the gardai hes the main suspect in the dons murder and also the murder of paul kavanagh among others, most of the criminal underworld in dublin would be terrified to hear hes after them hes not your average gun for hire prob the most professional to come out of irish crime

Id say he has far too much heat from Gardai to do anything, and also needs to be in hiding himself

Maybe he'll get a 20 year sentence on the dangerous driving charge!

I think that the news papers and the stories have created an image or a perception of this guy as a larger than life Tarantino-esque character! When in actual fact he is a tablet head that cannot go a day without having his weed and pills to operate! He was arrested with Patrick Hutch junior but released!

Michael O Toole

Bicky bicky wrote: »

Can we have you factual take on it Micheal?

On the feud? I don't see an end to it at all, even in the medium term. It's too personal for the Hutchs and, probably, for David Byrne's people. So it will go on for years. The Kinahans are using gillies and don't give a crap what happens to them.

Bicky bicky

seerscryer wrote: »

I think that the news papers and the stories have created an image or a perception of this guy as a larger than life Tarantino-esque character! When in actual fact he is a tablet head that cannot go a day without having his weed and pills to operate! He was arrested with Patrick Hutch junior but released!

Seerscryer you don't like that man no?
Why did you lock your Twitter were you told to?

The flying mouse

Bicky bicky wrote: »

I knew jounos, gardai and gangsters didn't want to mention ira.

They can read to :pac:;)

Bicky bicky

Michael O Toole wrote: »

On the feud? I don't see an end to it at all, even in the medium term. It's too personal for the Hutchs and, probably, for David Byrne's people. So it will go on for years. The Kinahans are using gillies and don't give a crap what happens to them.

On how it started Micheal hutchs or Kinahans started this?the full story you have!

O we here in this thread know it's too personal now worse feud or personal dispute this country has seem and it's only going to get worse!

Do you believe a former detective is in Kinahans pocket??do you know his name?

The flying mouse

Michael O Toole wrote: »

On the feud? I don't see an end to it at all, even in the medium term. It's too personal for the Hutchs and, probably, for David Byrne's people. So it will go on for years. The Kinahans are using gillies and don't give a crap what happens to them.

You say what has been written is fairly accurate yet everyone who has an interest in this knows where and why it really started, yet that is never mentioned, why is that ?

Also the hutches are by some media(not necessary you)put down as like robin hood types who only helped there community and we all know that's a load of bollix, If they had of succeeded in there plan they be as bad if not worse than the costas. Why is there a good and bad being put out there when there both the same. Drug dealers, gangsters and criminals.

Benteke

This feud has thought me one thing that I never really took much notice off before, The journos don't have a scooby about what is going on, A lot happened over the weekend that has not even been mentioned by the media and now I or others are not allowed to post what happened because we don't have a link from the media who are wrong to prove our claims

Needlessly to say you have to take what the media say with a pinch of salt in fact I would pretty much give it a miss if you want the truth

Bicky bicky

Benteke wrote: »

This feud has thought me one thing that I never really took much notice off before, The journos don't have a scooby about what is going on, A lot happened over the weekend that has not even been mentioned by the media and now I or others are not allowed to post what happened because we don't have a link from the media who are wrong to prove our claims

Needlessly to say you have to take what the media say with a pinch of salt in fact I would pretty much give it a miss if you want the truth

In fairness there is a media black out since before fox bail application basically because of all the interest

Benteke

Bicky bicky wrote: »

In fairness there is a media black out since before fox bail application basically because of all the interest

Not just talking about last few days, I know the reason for the media black out since the weekend but I'm talking about in general since this feud began, The media is out of touch about what is really happening

The flying mouse

Bicky bicky wrote: »

In fairness there is a media black out since before fox bail application basically because of all the interest

The crime media in this country have been a joke since this started, Suppose there is know really independent investigative journos left, Bring back magill




Magill was an Irish politics and current affairs magazine founded by Vincent Browne and others in 1977. Magill was widely perceived as groundbreaking, specialising in in-depth investigative articles and colourful reportage by journalists such as Eamonn McCann (who wrote its anonymous Wigmore column) and Gene Kerrigan...https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjRmN7w84nNAhXCOxoKHVJ2ByEQFggbMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMagill&usg=AFQjCNFMukX1ePinsYUrpe_GOtqFpLsLWw&sig2=P9EE-54kw-d1rwSz8aJrHw

seerscryer

Bicky bicky wrote: »

seerscryer wrote: »

I think that the news papers and the stories have created an image or a perception of this guy as a larger than life Tarantino-esque character! When in actual fact he is a tablet head that cannot go a day without having his weed and pills to operate! He was arrested with Patrick Hutch junior but released!

Seerscryer you don't like that man no?
Why did you lock your Twitter were you told to?

I don't like or dislike him! It's not about good or evil, happy or sad! It is about telling the truth or the version I believe! Why did I close my my Twitter account? Because I can! Because I want to create an aura of mystery because I feel inadequate! My tricycle got a puncture! The cat ate my homework! Me Ma didn't wake me! Dat bed was too lumpy! I seen a flash of light and feel off my horse on the road to Damascus! It wasn't me it was the one-armed man! That's a horse of a different kettle of fish! Who's bleedin asking? Take your pick!

Peter Anthony

Benteke wrote: »

This feud has thought me one thing that I never really took much notice off before, The journos don't have a scooby about what is going on, A lot happened over the weekend that has not even been mentioned by the media and now I or others are not allowed to post what happened because we don't have a link from the media who are wrong to prove our claims

Needlessly to say you have to take what the media say with a pinch of salt in fact I would pretty much give it a miss if you want the truth

Some do know more than they let on, but they are very limited in what they can say from Gardai and other sources. What happened at the weekend, is this concerning Tossy Fox? My memory of days and dates is failing me!

Michael O Toole

The flying mouse wrote: »

The crime media in this country have been a joke since this started, Suppose there is know really independent investigative journos left, Bring back magill




Magill was an Irish politics and current affairs magazine founded by Vincent Browne and others in 1977. Magill was widely perceived as groundbreaking, specialising in in-depth investigative articles and colourful reportage by journalists such as Eamonn McCann (who wrote its anonymous Wigmore column) and Gene Kerrigan...https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjRmN7w84nNAhXCOxoKHVJ2ByEQFggbMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMagill&usg=AFQjCNFMukX1ePinsYUrpe_GOtqFpLsLWw&sig2=P9EE-54kw-d1rwSz8aJrHw

I should have come on this thread ages ago. I've been on it for an hour and already I've found several people with in depth, secret, knowledge of the feud - as well as media experts.

I'll have to get the rest of the lads to join.

humberklog

Yeah. What happened at the weekend that's not being reported on?

The flying mouse

seerscryer wrote: »

I don't like or dislike him! It's not about good or evil, happy or sad! It is about telling the truth or the version I believe! Why did I close my my Twitter account? Because I can! Because I want to create an aura of mystery because I feel inadequate! My tricycle got a puncture! The cat ate my homework! Me Ma didn't wake me! Dat bed was too lumpy! I seen a flash of light and feel off my horse on the road to Damascus! It wasn't me it was the one-armed man! That's a horse of a different kettle of fish! Who's bleedin asking? Take your pick!

I going for your tricycle got a puncture.:D

coniosumadre

Michael O Toole wrote: »

The flying mouse wrote: »

The crime media in this country have been a joke since this started, Suppose there is know really independent investigative journos left, Bring back magill




Magill was an Irish politics and current affairs magazine founded by Vincent Browne and others in 1977. Magill was widely perceived as groundbreaking, specialising in in-depth investigative articles and colourful reportage by journalists such as Eamonn McCann (who wrote its anonymous Wigmore column) and Gene Kerrigan...https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjRmN7w84nNAhXCOxoKHVJ2ByEQFggbMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMagill&usg=AFQjCNFMukX1ePinsYUrpe_GOtqFpLsLWw&sig2=P9EE-54kw-d1rwSz8aJrHw

I should have come on this thread ages ago. I've been on it for an hour and already I've found several people with in depth, secret, knowledge of the feud - as well as media experts.

I'll have to get the rest of the lads to join.

And you never even got to read all the deleted posts!

Benteke

humberklog wrote: »

Yeah. What happened at the weekend that's not being reported on?

I really can't say cause it will get the thread closed

Benteke

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Some do know more than they let on, but they are very limited in what they can say from Gardai and other sources. What happened at the weekend, is this concerning Tossy Fox? My memory of days and dates is failing me!

Yep

coniosumadre

Benteke wrote: »

humberklog wrote: »

Yeah. What happened at the weekend that's not being reported on?

I really can't say cause it will get the thread closed

We've gotten around things like this before. A little pointer in the right direction!

coniosumadre

Benteke wrote: »

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Some do know more than they let on, but they are very limited in what they can say from Gardai and other sources. What happened at the weekend, is this concerning Tossy Fox? My memory of days and dates is failing me!

Yep

Well now he's got only 1 facebook page which I find a little strange.

refusetolose

id say michael has been looking at this thread a lot longer than what he's letting on

Benteke

coniosumadre wrote: »

We've gotten around things like this before. A little pointer in the right direction!

I have never been one for subtle hints

Peter Anthony

coniosumadre wrote: »

Well now he's got only 1 facebook page which I find a little strange.

I imagine he forgot his password so set up another account. And then whoever deleted the 1st account, won't know the password to the 2nd. So it will probably stay!

Allyall

coniosumadre wrote: »

Well now he's got only 1 facebook page which I find a little strange.

The more recent one has been removed. Loads of the comments under pictures were disappearing off it anyway..

Peter Anthony

Allyall wrote: »

The more recent one has been removed. Loads of the comments under pictures were disappearing of it anyway..

The damage was done in fairness. He wasnt the only guy in custody who deleted his facebook either

Bicky bicky

Peter Anthony wrote: »

The damage was done in fairness. He wasnt the only guy in custody who deleted his facebook either

I seen dat cucumber! Told someone his password on outside or gardai got them deleted or associates were told his password and deleted

refusetolose

refusetolose wrote: »

id say michael has been looking at this thread a lot longer than what he's letting on

Of course he was!
The only thing they get on the streets is spat on!

The fact is, this thread is the only thing close to resembling the unbiased truth.
But I'm sure it's modified to suit the rags agenda!

Bicky bicky

http:
//m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/garda-presence-as-hutch-family-gather-at-home-of-latest-victim-of-deadly-gangland-feud-34768345.html

Usual Irish funeral!

Mick just confirmed on Twitter it's his real boards account obviously not his only one!

Michael O Toole

Bicky bicky wrote: »

http:
//m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/garda-presence-as-hutch-family-gather-at-home-of-latest-victim-of-deadly-gangland-feud-34768345.html

Usual Irish funeral!

Mick just confirmed on Twitter it's his real boards account obviously not his only one!

No, not at all. Haven't logged in for years and only usually lurk on the News and Media site, unregistered. But today was the first time I saw this thread. Quite entertaining.

Bicky bicky

Great threads this is😃 Hope when this media blackout is over you will give us here all your hack info first you got a bit praise here that turned me to your Twitter enjoy your read!!

Michael O Toole

Bicky bicky wrote: »

Great threads this isðŸ˜႒ Hope when this media blackout is over you will give us here all your hack info first you got a bit praise here that turned me to your Twitter enjoy your read!!

Actually, I'd love to know what this media blackout is. I haven't a clue what it even means. The only things we can't write are matters that are sub judice or dedamatory

humberklog

Michael O Toole wrote: »

No, not at all. Haven't loghed in for years and only usually lurk on the News and Media site, unregistered. But today was the first time I saw this thread. Quite entertaining.

I know you don't represent all crime journos on the island and it's a bit silly to be having a pop at you.

But I was curious about something: Garreth Hutch skipped bail a few years ago over a case of a cash in transit robbery. He was extradited from Holland last year. There was little or no reporting on what happened in the case following his return. Do you think the media avoided investigating and reporting the story further or was there simply not much in that story?

Peter Anthony

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/fragile-normality-returns-ahead-of-gareth-hutch-funeral-1.2670705

“Here,” said Calum, “what are you going to write in the paper? They shouldn’t have put the video on Facebook, so they shouldn’t. Who did that?”

Just read this, and the part about the the 11 year old nephew and godson of Gareth Hutch shows how messed up this all is. I know the Gardai are supposedly investigating how that video was leaked but no doubt that will amount to nothing. Nobody should have to witness the video of a close relative being murdered like that on Facebook, least of all a child that young. What happens when the other kids start showing the video at school etc! It's terribly unfair to the family on top of him being murdered.

Michael O Toole

humberklog wrote: »

I know you don't represent all crime journos on the island and it's a bit silly to be having a pop at you.

But I was curious about something: Garreth Hutch skipped bail a few years ago over a case of a cash in transit robbery. He was extradited from Holland last year. There was little or no reporting on what happened in the case following his return. Do you think the media avoided investigating and reporting the story further or was there simply not much in that story?

The shutters come down once someone appeara in front of a judge. You can only report what is said in court. He was acquitted later, so there's not much to do after that if he's not guilty of anything in relation to that. You guys clearly don't need to worry about contempt, defamation, etc. But we do.

Peter Anthony

Peter Anthony wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/fragile-normality-returns-ahead-of-gareth-hutch-funeral-1.2670705

Just read this, and the part about the the 11 year old nephew and godson of Gareth Hutch shows how messed up this all is. I know the Gardai are supposedly investigating how that video was leaked but no doubt that will amount to nothing. Nobody should have to witness the video of a close relative being murdered like that on Facebook, least of all a child that young. What happens when the other kids start showing the video at school etc! It's terribly unfair to the family on top of him being murdered.

Whilst I agree it's tragic, these kids are surrounded by bravado, family mostly.
Not much will phase them now, wait until they are older!

humberklog

Michael O Toole wrote: »

The shutters come down once someone appeara in front of a judge. You can only report what is said in court. He was acquitted later, so there's not much to do after that if he's not guilty of anything in relation to that. You guys clearly don't need to worry about contempt, defamation, etc. But we do.

Arrested at the scene (his cousin eventually goes to prison for his part in the same heist), he skips bail, a costly extradition process ensues. He's returned to the jurisdiction and brought to court where he's acquitted.

Nothing to see here...

Michael O Toole

humberklog wrote: »

Arrested at the scene (his cousin eventually goes to prison for his part in the same heist), he skips bail, a costly extradition process ensues. He's returned to the jurisdiction and brought to court where he's acquitted.

Nothing to see here...

Well, that's all grand. But a court acquitted him. That's it, really.

The flying mouse

Prime time tonight doing a piece, They must be checking out boards too :-)

Bicky bicky

Michael O Toole wrote: »

Actually, I'd love to know what this media blackout is. I haven't a clue what it even means. The only things we can't write are matters that are sub judice or dedamatory

The coverage after Mr Hutch's death just stopped odd mention of 2 people charged with offence that's it this place had more information than our countrys hacks.
I also realise ireland has strict libel laws for print media which in turn affects Irish hacks.

Michael O Toole

Bicky bicky wrote: »

The coverage after Mr Hutch's death just stopped odd mention of 2 people charged with offence that's it this place had more information than our countrys hacks.
I also realise ireland has strict libel laws for print media which in turn affects Irish hacks.

No, it didn't stop after his death, it stopped after the people appeared in court.

Peter Anthony

The only thing that was mysterious was that his supposed involvement in the robbery wasnt reported at the time. The stuff online about him hours before he died appears to be a coincidence? From what the story now is. A very odd coincidence mind! I also think if those allegations were true, then his co-accused would surely also know, and would have disassociated themselves from him. Which does not appear to be the case? So logic would dictate that the Dutch blog was incorrect!?

Anyone any thoughts regarding that

arayess

Michael O Toole wrote: »

I should have come on this thread ages ago. I've been on it for an hour and already I've found several people with in depth, secret, knowledge of the feud - as well as media experts.

I'll have to get the rest of the lads to join.

leave williams at home ... he is a cnut on every level.

Michael O Toole wrote: »

The shutters come down once someone appeara in front of a judge. You can only report what is said in court. He was acquitted later, so there's not much to do after that if he's not guilty of anything in relation to that. You guys clearly don't need to worry about contempt, defamation, etc. But we do.

not now since he is deceased...you can spout away...we know you want too

Bicky bicky

Michael O Toole wrote: »

No, it didn't stop after his death, it stopped after the people appeared in court.

Suppose you can't give your opinion seems your here all day and not a pointer or hint at anything and your views belong to your paper.

Think your here for a easy rise by you're writing style

Michael O Toole

Bicky bicky wrote: »

Suppose you can't give your opinion seems your here all day and not a pointer or hint at anything and your views belong to your paper.

Think your here for a easy rise by you're writing style

I'm paid by the paper. It's my job.

Bicky bicky

Michael O Toole wrote: »

I'm paid by the paper. It's my job.

But the paper doesn't own you! good evening to ya sir clearly stuck in your aul ways!

Michael O Toole

Bicky bicky wrote: »

But the paper doesn't own you! good evening to ya sir clearly stuck in your aul ways!

But what do you want me to say?!?

The flying mouse

Michael O Toole wrote: »

I'm paid by the paper. It's my job.

Hiya
what in your opinion would make this feud different than others before,i.e. Drimnagh/Crumlin and the limerick feuds, both of them were very personal with also more than one family member being murdered in some cases.

coniosumadre

The flying mouse wrote: »

Michael O Toole wrote: »

I'm paid by the paper. It's my job.

Hiya
what in your opinion would make this feud different than others before,i.e. Drimnagh/Crumlin and the limerick feuds, both of them were very personal with also more than one family member being murdered in some cases.

The size of it?? How many people are involved directly or indirectly with the Kinahans?

Michael O Toole

The flying mouse wrote: »

Hiya
what in your opinion would make this feud different than others before,i.e. Drimnagh/Crumlin and the limerick feuds, both of them were very personal with also more than one family member being murdered in some cases.

The money the Kinahans have access to. They are massive.

Gamebred

Love to know why no media has drawn attention to the fact the kinahans were given round the clocked armed protection when they were at the funeral of Byrne,they had armed security soon as they came through arrivals at Dublin Airport and would be given it again if they come back to Dublin,none of this armed protection is given to the opposite side funny in this fued funny that.