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Rasberry pi 2, what do you do with yours?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    eddhorse wrote: »
    Ah so its back to two boxes again.
    Hmmm do Virgin have two boxes in the UK or will they incorporate their own TV boxes soon i wonder.

    Well I always had two boxes. The horizon piece of crap in the living room and a separate line for the Internet in my office. Maybe they still do an all in one as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    To repeat, I had no idea PS emulators were so good on tr RP2, it means that some titles unsupported on Mame, or poorly optimised, will run a treat, Raiden 2 and DX, GDarius, Einhander, the list isn't quite endless but there's tons on the format and, now, on the RP2 as well, albeit via Retropie.

    I'm sure the purists will say the emulation isn't ideal but I have played, Wipeout 2097, Vigilante 8 and Nuclear Strike with no issues. It's fantastic.

    Need to get some games that I really wanted to play at the time but didn't have the cash.

    Really need to use it more, just no time these days.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I'm sure the purists will say the emulation isn't ideal but I have played, Wipeout 2097, Vigilante 8 and Nuclear Strike with no issues. It's fantastic.

    Need to get some games that I really wanted to play at the time but didn't have the cash.

    Really need to use it more, just no time these days.

    I was debating putting Rollcage 2 on but realised I have all that stuff, playable via RGB on my TV, with the right controller, anything I'm playing via PS emulation via the Pi2 is arcade, so I've got a bunch of Shmups running on it just fine.
    I'll graze my collection and see what else might suit the cab.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    I was debating putting Rollcage 2 on but realised I have all that stuff, playable via RGB on my TV, with the right controller, anything I'm playing via PS emulation via the Pi2 is arcade, so I've got a bunch of Shmups running on it just fine.
    I'll graze my collection and see what else might suit the cab.

    I've got PS1 emulation running on my Hyperspin machine inside the candy. Most games don't suit the controls, but there are a few gems in there that are just awesome with the arcade sticks and screen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Rollcage 2

    Ohh, that and the prequel must be obtained! Never played them back in the day. :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Ohh, that and the prequel must be obtained! Never played them back in the day. :D

    They are fantastic, real Wipeout beaters.
    Unfortunately the visuals get a little muddied, thanks to the effects popping off all over the screen and the relatively low resolution, running through an emu probably make it look better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    I see the Raspberry Pi 3 has leaked online. Built in wifi and Bluetooth it seems. Not sure what else just yet.


    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/26/raspberry_pi_3/


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I spent f'ing hours sorting through NES/Famicom "files" yesterday, trying to filter out ever PD and Demo from the pile, not to mention clones.
    On reflection I should be more selective in the stuff I download in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    I spent f'ing hours sorting through NES/Famicom "files" yesterday, trying to filter out ever PD and Demo from the pile, not to mention clones.
    On reflection I should be more selective in the stuff I download in the first place.

    I took the other approach - rather than grabbing everything & spending time removing the ones I didn't want, I compiled a list of what I did want & grabbed them individually. Neither way is quick & easy, but when you end up with hundreds upon hundreds of titles, flash cart syndrome kicks in. So for me, a minimalist approach just works better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    I use the Ultimate Everdrive packs(and not just for playing on the Everdrive) that were around for a while(seem to be deleted now).
    You get literally everything, but its all sorted so you can just delete what you don't want, or keep the whole lot.

    Everdrive N8
    rriMAYW.jpg


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    My EX2 stick works great with everything except Mame, and my wireless PS3 stick can't be paired as it has no USB to initialise it all.
    Kerbdog is working on the adaptor for me at present, so I'll muddle along with the array of stuff I can play on it for the time being.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    It automatically recognises the controller as an EX2 360 stick and configures itself perfectly, but in Mame it refuses to see the digitial stick, no analogue here, and won't see the stick command even in the config, when setting the controls via the tab keyed menu.
    I went out of Mame and everything works perfectly in the other emulators.
    I'll try enabling Xboxdrv and see what happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    I do a similar thing for my super everdrive games, filter through folders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    KeRbDoG wrote: »
    ...
    We can discuss the benefits of creating an I-PAC type adapter to JAMMA edge board instead of directly wiring to buttons in a pre-wired and working cab that you prob don't wanna hack apart.
    ...

    My (bad) work here...is done. Should work well with the RaspberryPi. The only way I could test it was connect it to a Windows machine and tap a ground across the wired tabs. Doesn't look the prettiest but will do the job I hope. Should withstand some abuse which I was worried that it wouldn't if I just wired it up without connecting the two boards together somehow.
    The ChinaMan adapter comes up as two control pads with many many buttons
    I've used 'hotsnot' from a gluegun to secure the connectors on the ChinaMan adapter. I can wire up more buttons if needed. An example would be the cabs 'service' button to a button on the USB controller, so you could use that to bring up a config menu or something?

    378892.jpg
    378893.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Woohoo!
    Guess what I'll be doing tonight!
    And it won't involve tissues and lotion!
    RP2 cab bliss incoming!

    You know something isn't going to work... Never that easy, but sure where there's hope...

    The China sold adapter comes in several guises but they vary between saying it's a keyboard encoder to its not a keyboard encoder.
    Afaik it's basically the innards of a PC controller with the actual buttons up to you to connect.
    At least I hope that's how it'll work.


  • Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Haven't been following this thread at all.
    Can you get 15k out of the pi?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Took the next steps for turning my iCade into a RetroPie bartop... ordered a replacement screen for an iPad 2 and a controller board to interface it with the pi!
    Once I've that all set up and running, replacing the buttons/stick can come next.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    It's nearly worth picking an iCade up just for that purpose, get a little monitor for the display, off you go....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Haven't been following this thread at all.
    Can you get 15k out of the pi?

    Via a HDMI->VGA adapter + a VGA->15k adapter. (how to linky)

    Cider has a tri-sync monitor so it just has a VGA input so he only needed a HDMI->VGA adapter


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Fancy lad with his tri-sync !!


  • Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cool!
    might give this a shot.
    havent done anything with emulation in ages


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    It's nearly worth picking an iCade up just for that purpose, get a little monitor for the display, off you go....

    That's pretty much what I'm doing, the iPad 2 LCD will be the monitor (not an iPad itself, just the screen from one), and I'll have myself a handy little ultra portable bartop!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Might be a way to a PI Zero powered mini Robotron cab....
    Hmm....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Raspberry Pi 3 now available : £29.99
    http://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/rpi3-model-b/raspberry-pi-3-model-b
    http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b

    First look : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppbsaLZyF9E
    Technical Specification
    Broadcom BCM2387 chipset
    1.2GHz Quad-Core ARM Cortex-A53
    802.11 bgn Wireless LAN and Bluetooth 4.1 (Bluetooth Classic and LE)
    1GB RAM
    64 Bit CPU
    4 x USB ports
    4 pole Stereo output and Composite video port
    Full size HDMI
    10/100 BaseT Ethernet socket
    CSI camera port for connecting the Raspberry Pi camera
    DSI display port for connecting the Raspberry Pi touch screen display
    Micro SD port for loading your operating system and storing data
    Micro USB power source 5V 2.5A


  • Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lucky I didn't order one last night!
    I have a ipac lying around and I think i have a vga/cga conver somewhere too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Seems the Pi3 is a decent bit faster than the 2.

    MW1ULS3.jpg

    There should be a noticeable bump when running emulators and that sort of thing. It's come at a perfect time as I'm designing a case to fit everything I'd need to hook up the Pi to an arcade machine at 15hz(using more or less the same parts in that link kerbdog shared).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Why is the multi threaded score so low for the Pi3 or is it a typo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    eddhorse wrote: »
    Why is the multi threaded score so low for the Pi3 or is it a typo?

    That's in seconds, lower is better for that benchmark.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    eddhorse wrote: »
    Why is the multi threaded score so low for the Pi3 or is it a typo?

    Is that section not a measure of seconds, showing the Pi3 to be significantly faster than the Pi2?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Is it possible to run Plex on a Pi?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    Is it possible to run Plex on a Pi?

    Yes, I think its called Rasplex or Raspiplex or something like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Steve X2 wrote: »
    That's in seconds, lower is better for that benchmark.
    Myrddin wrote: »
    Is that section not a measure of seconds, showing the Pi3 to be significantly faster than the Pi2?

    Ahhhh should have looked properly, thanks.

    Faster is better dont ya know ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DinoRex


    My Pi3 just shipped... can't wait for it to go live in a drawer with the Pi1, Pi2 and Pi Zeros that I'll never get around to setting up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    DinoRex wrote: »
    My Pi3 just shipped... can't wait for it to go live in a drawer with the Pi1, Pi2 and Pi Zeros that I'll never get around to setting up.

    Ah come on, so many quick little projects for these tasty (almost) disposable little devices :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DinoRex


    Steve X2 wrote: »
    Ah come on, so many quick little projects for these tasty (almost) disposable little devices :)

    With each new Pi I tell myself... this is the one... this is the one I make things happen with.

    I even have a subscription to the magazine... that's how I could skip the queue for the Pi3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Like a magPi, building a nest from his shiny trinkets!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    DinoRex wrote: »
    My Pi3 just shipped... can't wait for it to go live in a drawer with the Pi1, Pi2 and Pi Zeros that I'll never get around to setting up.

    I'm not as bad as yourself but have the original sitting in a drawer here too. Was looking at the Pi3 but 1GB of RAM sounds a bit scabby (even though I'd probably only use it to stream films from the pc). Will wait and see if they release a beefier version down the line anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    I'm not as bad as yourself but have the original sitting in a drawer here too. Was looking at the Pi3 but 1GB of RAM sounds a bit scabby (even though I'd probably only use it to stream films from the pc). Will wait and see if they release a beefier version down the line anyway.

    I think 1GB is the max that series of SOC's can have, and they want to keep compatibility with the older Pi's. But yeah a boost in RAM is really needed in the next version for tinkerers, not necessarily the educational market though.
    And then there's the Ethernet port that's sitting on the USB 2 bus, I'd really like that to change as it can really kill the system if your pulling or pushing a lot of data over ethernet.
    But, for 35-40 euro I guess it aint bad :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    I was surprised the Pi2 B+ only had 10/100 on board...has the Pi3 got got native gigabit ethernet no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Myrddin wrote: »
    I was surprised the Pi2 B+ only had 10/100 on board...has the Pi3 got got native gigabit ethernet no?

    It's running off USB 2, so 10/100 is the max it can handle(USB 2 speed limits).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Think I'll hold off from the pi 3 B for now, would have been a much more significant upgrade had they increased the RAM and maybe gone USB3, but suppose they probably want to stick with overall compatibility with the pi and pi 2 without having to rewrite large chunks of the OS/drivers and needing all applications to be updated too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    It’s not a dramatic upgrade by any means. The built in wifi and Bluetooth will be handy for those projects that call for them(no need to be using dongles anymore).
    But for me, I generally have two types of projects for Pi’s. Ones that need as much power as possible(emulation, media etc) and ones that require the lowest possible power draw while supporting lots of sensors and hacks(remote monitoring and timelapse stations and funky nerd stuff like that).

    So the Pi3, that’s my new emu projects toy, and the old A+ is still my low power champion. If the Pi Zero supported the camera I’d replace the A+ with that as the power draw is a little less, and it has the full complement of GPIO pins.
    I’ve a device called a Witty Pi running on an Pi A+ and last time I check the battery I’m using was at 95 percent after 4-5 weeks(witty pi is awesome).


    TL;DR
    I hope they keep upgrading and pushing what the pi can do. But also want them to keep pushing the low end Pi’s(I want a Pi Zero 2 that’s half the size and half the power draw and has the camera connector).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    I've just got my pi 2 running RetroPi (3.5, and successfully this time!), but it really is remarkable the various things that people have got these little wonder cards running!

    I'd love to set one up for running security programs etc...

    Any interesting projects that you have yours set to do other than emus? (I know that this is going a little off retro now though, so sorry for the OT-ness!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    Used with RISC OS and booting into BASIC, just like the days of yore with the BBC Micro/ZX Spectrum/Commodore 64
    Trying to get Windows 10 running on it too. Not so keen with Windows 10 on my laptop going by my experience so far but that's nudder story/
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Star Lord wrote: »
    I've just got my pi 2 running RetroPi (3.5, and successfully this time!), but it really is remarkable the various things that people have got these little wonder cards running!

    I'd love to set one up for running security programs etc...

    Any interesting projects that you have yours set to do other than emus? (I know that this is going a little off retro now though, so sorry for the OT-ness!)

    I've got a bunch of them in home made waterproof boxes doing time lapse pics and recording temps and various other things out at sea(well, from a few meters off the beach to a few hundred meters out). I use the standard Pi cam as well as the modded one for IR. Every new one I make gets a little better and so far only one lost.

    I tried to make a submarine last year. I could control it on water and get it to dive. But it never did manage to come back up :0/
    It sounds fancy, but it was basically a lunch box, some motors/servos and a few parts from an aquarium :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    Steve X2 wrote: »
    I tried to make a submarine last year. I could control it on water and get it to dive. But it never did manage to come back up :0/
    It sounds fancy, but it was basically a lunch box, some motors/servos and a few parts from an aquarium :)
    Low tech solution to "raise" the submarine>

    Fishing Rod, and hook - if you know where it went down. And there's not too much plantlife in the water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    5rtytry56 wrote: »
    Low tech solution to "raise" the submarine>

    Fishing Rod, and hook - if you know where it went down. And there's not too much plantlife in the water.

    Ah, I was able to get it back "manually" :)
    I had/have great plans for a mini boat/sub/floating lunch box with some basic auto navigation, camera and 3G/GPRS connectivity to call home. With the 3G/GPRS shield it'd also have A-GPS, so some basic positioning.
    Anyway, a failed project, for now :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Just for reference, RPi Models : (Couldnt remember which one i had)
    grep -e 'Hardware' -e 'Revision' /proc/cpuinfo

    Hardware : BCM2708
    Revision : 000e

    Pi_Family_Zero_annotated_1500.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Dammit!
    I have the XinMo module installed in the cab, connected to the RP2 via usb and the cab controls via the jamma connector and Retropie isn't detecting the arrangement.
    Now, Raspian is, when I quit Retropie the various Raspian based menus sees the controller just fine, but no dice in Retropie's GUI.
    Typically, plugging in a new controller gives you a brief setup menu, but not this time.
    Feck and Arsebiscuits!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Dammit!
    I have the XinMo module installed in the cab, connected to the RP2 via usb and the cab controls via the jamma connector and Retropie isn't detecting the arrangement.
    Now, Raspian is, when I quit Retropie the various Raspian based menus sees the controller just fine, but no dice in Retropie's GUI.
    Typically, plugging in a new controller gives you a brief setup menu, but not this time.
    Feck and Arsebiscuits!
    Connect up a USB keyboard and bring up the menu, chances are you just need to reconfigure the inputs for the Retropie interface


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