Imagine LTE Rural Broadband

cyberspi

Followup - So, the engineers are here as I type, I can't get on to the newly live 5g ready site in charleville, but they are picking up 50mg from a legacy site slievereagh so are going to install and connect me to that. They have said all legacy sites will be upgraded in the next few months, is that fairytales? I do have 14 days cooling so will see how I get on for next few days...

Ten Pin

Followup - So, the engineers are here as I type, I can't get on to the newly live 5g ready site in charleville, but they are picking up 50mg from a legacy site slievereagh so are going to install and connect me to that. They have said all legacy sites will be upgraded in the next few months, is that fairytales? I do have 14 days cooling so will see how I get on for next few days...

While they're there, ask them if any/many sites have/will have fibre to the mast.

And also if the router and antenna are 5G equipment, other posters here will know if it's the same equipment as they have for 4G/LTE. That'll indicate whether they're using "5G" as a marketing or techncal term.

cyberspi

Ten Pin wrote: »

While they're there, ask them if any/many sites have/will have fibre to the mast.

And also if the router and antenna are 5G equipment, other posters here will know if it's the same equipment as they have for 4G/LTE. That'll indicate if they're just using "5G" as a marketing or techncal term.

Afraid they've just gone, but they've said the equipment they have installed are the latest so we wont need a new installation when the site is upgraded

tsue921i8wljb3

cyberspi wrote: »

Afraid they've just gone, but they've said the equipment they have installed are the latest so we wont need a new installation when the site is upgraded

Is this the router they installed? Gemtek brand, model WVRTM-127ACN.

cyberspi

Reyansh Little Bandage wrote: »

Is this the router they installed? Gemtek brand, model WVRTM-127ACN.

No it's a wltgg-123

cyberspi

cyberspi wrote: »

No it's a wltgg-123

Actually model underneath is WVRTM-130ACN

tsue921i8wljb3

cyberspi wrote: »

Actually model underneath is WVRTM-130ACN

Thanks. It seems they may have moved from Cat 6 LTE equipment to Cat 12 but the manufacturer's site makes no mention of 5G.

https://www.gemteks.com/en/products/wireless-broadband/outdoor-cpe

naughto

cyberspi wrote: »

Followup - So, the engineers are here as I type, I can't get on to the newly live 5g ready site in charleville, but they are picking up 50mg from a legacy site slievereagh so are going to install and connect me to that. They have said all legacy sites will be upgraded in the next few months, is that fairytales? I do have 14 days cooling so will see how I get on for next few days...

When did you order? You have 14 days from when you order that’s when it starts not when it is installed.
They are deinstalling mine in the next few weeks

bennyineire

So it looks like there will be a Gardai probe into spy risks linked to Huawei 5G mobile networks https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gardai-to-probe-spy-risks-linked-to-huawei-5g-mobile-networks-gf72fjwfg

Imagine are basically betting on Huawei gear and the NBS been cancelled.

With news that the NBS will be signed off this week and potential issues with Huawei these are nervous times for imagine. They've made 2 big gambles and if both of these fail they will be out of business in a couple of years time

Gonzo

bennyineire wrote: »

So it looks like there will be a Gardai probe into spy risks linked to Huawei 5G mobile networks https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gardai-to-probe-spy-risks-linked-to-huawei-5g-mobile-networks-gf72fjwfg

Imagine are basically betting on Huawei gear and the NBS been cancelled.

With news that the NBS will be signed off this week and potential issues with Huawei these are nervous times for imagine. They've made 2 big gambles and if both of these fail they will be out of business in a couple of years time

If the NPB actually happens and FTTH get's rolled out throughout rural Ireland, Imagine will have no choice but become a reseller of FTTH like Sky, Airwire, Vodafone and Digiweb. I can't imagine Bolger giving up that easily, there are many things we can say about him but one of those things is he has huge determination and will stop at nothing to keep Imagine in business and doing well.

bennyineire

Gonzo wrote: »

If the NPB actually happens and FTTH get's rolled out throughout rural Ireland, Imagine will have no choice but become a reseller of FTTH like Sky, Airwire, Vodafone and Digiweb. I can't imagine Bolger giving up that easily, there are many things we can say about him but one of those things is he has huge determination and will stop at nothing to keep Imagine in business and doing well.

NBS is more a less a done deal now according the the Sunday Times, the Sunday Times doesn't get story's wrong https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/green-light-for-3bn-rural-web-x299kk376

Gonzo

bennyineire wrote: »

NBS is more a less a done deal now according the the Sunday Times, the Sunday Times doesn't get story's wrong https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/green-light-for-3bn-rural-web-x299kk376

Hopefully it really does happen this time, there's been very much uncertainty over this for years. If we get the green light and start seeing spades in the ground, it will be a huge relief for many people here.

ussjtrunks

You would think though that any customers currently with imagine would take the easy option and switch to imagines ftth, imagine might even waive the contract cessation cost as a carrot. All depends if imagine can offer competitive pricing though.

tsue921i8wljb3

I don't think there is any chance of them becoming a FTTH reseller. They actually sold their landline based customer base to Magnet in 2016. If the wireless part if the business fails the company will fold IMO.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/magnet-buys-imagine-s-retail-business-unit-in-all-cash-deal-1.2560922

ED E

Reyansh Little Bandage wrote: »

If the wireless part if the business fails the company will fold IMO.
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Nah, they'll just sue the RAN vendor again.

Johnboy1951

Reyansh Little Bandage wrote: »

I don't think there is any chance of them becoming a FTTH reseller. They actually sold their landline based customer base to Magnet in 2016. If the wireless part if the business fails the company will fold IMO.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/magnet-buys-imagine-s-retail-business-unit-in-all-cash-deal-1.2560922

I would think given the choice of folding the company and utilising its customer base to resell FTTH, they would seriously consider the latter.

Gonzo

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I would think given the choice of folding the company and utilising its customer base to resell FTTH, they would seriously consider the latter.

yeah I can't imagine Bulger giving up that easily if rural wireless get's replaced by rural FTTH.

Before that even happens, he would probably cut the cost of Imagine's service to make it seem more competitive than lowest tier FTTH plans. He ain't going to give up his wireless dream or business without a serious fight.

yrrag1974

Dero wrote: »

I'm on the Old Kilcullen mast and while it went through a period where it was essentially unusable for a few hours every evening, it seems to be a little better now. Having said that, I inadvertently kicked off a software update on my laptop yesterday evening and my son's in-game ping immediately shot up to ~3000ms, rendering his game unplayable.

I don't use the Imagine router (long story) so I have no idea if it is still locked down.

Also, that mast is showing as full on the website. Are they offering you a slot on it?

Here's my speeds every four hours for the last couple of weeks. Note the obvious dips at 21:00 most days.

Timestamp|Down|Up|Loss|Ping|Jitter
==========|======|======|======|======|======
18/02/19 09:01|69.43|4.96|0.0%|32.3|9.6
18/02/19 13:01|40.93|4.98|0.0%|26.7|8.6
18/02/19 17:01|44.82|4.96|0.0%|27.0|8.3
18/02/19 21:01|23.81|2.65|0.0%|59.6|42.5
19/02/19 01:01|36.86|4.85|0.0%|30.8|8.8
19/02/19 05:01|85.87|4.55|0.0%|25.8|5.7
19/02/19 09:01|76.24|4.95|0.0%|27.2|6.4
19/02/19 13:01|68.81|4.18|0.0%|25.3|9.6
19/02/19 17:01|33.02|2.43|0.0%|27.3|9.6
19/02/19 21:01|4.27|1.39|0.0%|34.3|9.8
20/02/19 01:01|18.20|4.60|0.0%|31.9|11.3
20/02/19 05:01|81.10|4.99|0.0%|25.7|7.2
20/02/19 09:01|38.10|4.44|0.0%|27.6|9.9
20/02/19 13:01|55.20|3.55|0.0%|38.9|21.4
20/02/19 17:01|60.21|4.31|0.0%|30.8|11.0
20/02/19 21:01|9.20|3.70|0.0%|102.1|35.5
21/02/19 01:01|24.48|4.59|0.0%|28.6|7.2
21/02/19 05:01|76.10|4.95|0.0%|27.5|8.9
21/02/19 09:01|41.58|4.89|0.0%|26.4|7.6
21/02/19 13:01|20.89|4.21|0.0%|23.2|6.1
21/02/19 17:01|31.23|4.34|0.0%|31.0|13.6
21/02/19 21:01|6.92|1.10|0.0%|95.3|57.0
22/02/19 01:01|51.60|4.54|0.0%|26.8|8.8
22/02/19 05:01|85.55|4.98|0.0%|22.3|8.3
22/02/19 09:01|40.94|3.90|0.0%|22.8|6.5
22/02/19 13:01|40.31|4.98|0.0%|109.4|79.1

@Dero - can I ask you a favour? I've finally bitten the bullet and just ordered. Have the speeds stayed in or around the above over the last few weeks?

Dero

yrrag1974 wrote: »

@Dero - can I ask you a favour? I've finally bitten the bullet and just ordered. Have the speeds stayed in or around the above over the last few weeks?

Hey yrrag1974. Yeah, it is still pretty much the same. It does slow down significantly in the evening, but it doesn't actually grind to a halt unless something saturates the connection (e.g. downloading updates etc.). General browsing/streaming tends to be OK.

I have no idea where this mast sits on the priority list for the "5G" rollout, but if that happens, it might help a bit at peak times.


Timestamp|Down|Up|Loss|Ping|Jitter
==========|======|======|======|======|======
30/03/19 09:01|39.05|4.92|0.0%|29.6|6.6
30/03/19 13:01|35.17|4.92|0.0%|26.4|6.2
30/03/19 17:01|43.13|5.00|0.0%|23.8|7.9
30/03/19 21:01|31.29|4.39|0.0%|27.0|9.1
31/03/19 02:01|53.23|3.89|0.0%|31.5|22.8
31/03/19 05:01|73.85|5.00|0.0%|25.5|8.8
31/03/19 09:01|59.47|4.52|0.0%|22.9|7.4
31/03/19 13:01|55.83|4.99|0.0%|28.4|7.0
31/03/19 17:01|49.05|4.51|0.0%|32.3|15.7
31/03/19 21:01|29.07|3.07|0.0%|50.6|27.1
01/04/19 01:01|46.32|4.81|0.0%|26.2|9.1
01/04/19 05:01|87.82|4.96|0.0%|27.9|9.2
01/04/19 09:01|85.70|5.01|0.0%|26.3|10.1
01/04/19 13:01|83.53|5.04|0.0%|40.0|20.9
01/04/19 17:01|63.36|4.25|0.0%|28.7|13.5
01/04/19 21:01|2.87|0.21|||
02/04/19 01:01|67.37|4.50|0.0%|52.5|55.6
02/04/19 05:01|82.62|4.88|0.0%|21.3|6.3
02/04/19 09:01|83.75|4.49|0.0%|27.9|10.6
02/04/19 13:01|73.81|4.52|0.0%|27.1|10.8
02/04/19 17:01|48.03|4.16|0.0%|28.6|11.6
02/04/19 21:01|9.40|1.27|0.0%|47.1|23.1
03/04/19 01:01|81.36|4.92|0.0%|23.7|6.5
03/04/19 05:01|89.97|4.99|0.0%|22.6|7.0
03/04/19 09:01|84.19|4.95|0.0%|28.3|9.9
03/04/19 13:01|61.18|4.95|0.0%|24.9|11.1

Nyum Nyum

Is there anywhere online you can check where Imagine's masts/towers/whatever are located? Thanks

yrrag1974

Dero wrote: »

Hey yrrag1974. Yeah, it is still pretty much the same. It does slow down significantly in the evening, but it doesn't actually grind to a halt unless something saturates the connection (e.g. downloading updates etc.). General browsing/streaming tends to be OK.

I have no idea where this mast sits on the priority list for the "5G" rollout, but if that happens, it might help a bit at peak times.


Timestamp|Down|Up|Loss|Ping|Jitter
==========|======|======|======|======|======
30/03/19 09:01|39.05|4.92|0.0%|29.6|6.6
30/03/19 13:01|35.17|4.92|0.0%|26.4|6.2
30/03/19 17:01|43.13|5.00|0.0%|23.8|7.9
30/03/19 21:01|31.29|4.39|0.0%|27.0|9.1
31/03/19 02:01|53.23|3.89|0.0%|31.5|22.8
31/03/19 05:01|73.85|5.00|0.0%|25.5|8.8
31/03/19 09:01|59.47|4.52|0.0%|22.9|7.4
31/03/19 13:01|55.83|4.99|0.0%|28.4|7.0
31/03/19 17:01|49.05|4.51|0.0%|32.3|15.7
31/03/19 21:01|29.07|3.07|0.0%|50.6|27.1
01/04/19 01:01|46.32|4.81|0.0%|26.2|9.1
01/04/19 05:01|87.82|4.96|0.0%|27.9|9.2
01/04/19 09:01|85.70|5.01|0.0%|26.3|10.1
01/04/19 13:01|83.53|5.04|0.0%|40.0|20.9
01/04/19 17:01|63.36|4.25|0.0%|28.7|13.5
01/04/19 21:01|2.87|0.21|||
02/04/19 01:01|67.37|4.50|0.0%|52.5|55.6
02/04/19 05:01|82.62|4.88|0.0%|21.3|6.3
02/04/19 09:01|83.75|4.49|0.0%|27.9|10.6
02/04/19 13:01|73.81|4.52|0.0%|27.1|10.8
02/04/19 17:01|48.03|4.16|0.0%|28.6|11.6
02/04/19 21:01|9.40|1.27|0.0%|47.1|23.1
03/04/19 01:01|81.36|4.92|0.0%|23.7|6.5
03/04/19 05:01|89.97|4.99|0.0%|22.6|7.0
03/04/19 09:01|84.19|4.95|0.0%|28.3|9.9
03/04/19 13:01|61.18|4.95|0.0%|24.9|11.1

They're still decent speeds - I'd be happy with them. Compared to my 8mb eir!! He said the mast is due to be upgraded this year sometime but I'll take that with a pinch of salt! How close are you to the mast?

Villain

I'd imagine this will cause some stir:

http://www.brusselstimes.com/brussels/14753/radiation-concerns-halt-brussels-5g-for-now

Dero

yrrag1974 wrote: »

They're still decent speeds - I'd be happy with them. Compared to my 8mb eir!! He said the mast is due to be upgraded this year sometime but I'll take that with a pinch of salt! How close are you to the mast?

Pretty much bang-on 5km with direct LoS.

The Cush

Villain wrote: »

I'd imagine this will cause some stir:

http://www.brusselstimes.com/brussels/14753/radiation-concerns-halt-brussels-5g-for-now

I think you should post it here - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057969368

Ultimanemo

Imagine in Galway Tonabrocky mast today, direct cable connection no other Internet activity, one test only done, hosted by Vodafone Dublin, windy outside

Ultimanemo

To be fair to them, second test

Mortelaro

Lunchtime test here over 5g wifi to phone
160 down

Mortelaro

805pm
60 Mb download
7 up
Barrackcroghan mast

user1842

8:50pm Ballina mast. 3Km to mast.

6.9mb down

0.71mb up

yrrag1974

I have to say I debated a LONG time over whether to join or not based on the feedback on this forum but so far so good. Old Kilcullen mast - so not new and good few established users on it.

Fantastic during the day - 50 / 60 Mbps down.

Drops to between 5 and 20 around 8 or 9 at night. That's acceptable for me given its the only alternative to fibre and still better than my 8 Mb (in theory) eir line.

Mast hasn't received the upgrade yet so hoping for a further improvement when it does.