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Clamping release fee at railway stations

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  • #2
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Someone I know was clamped at a railway station last weekend and the release fee was €120.

    I thought under the 2015 Act that the maximum release fee is €100?

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/maximum-clamping-fine-will-be-100-on-private-land-30341057.html

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2015/act/13/enacted/en/pdf

    The €100 max dosn't apply to an airport, CIE, the RPA, a harbour or a fishery harbour centre or a body established under statute.

    The Independent was wrong in mentioning railway stations.

    It's also worth noting that whilst the Bill was enacted last May it has yet to actually commence and as such currently has no legal standing.


  • #3
    n97 mini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    GM228 wrote: »
    The €100 max dosn't apply to an airport, CIE, the RPA, a harbour or a fishery harbour centre or a body established under statute.

    Does that include a local authority? I think there's double standards here, private clampers can only charge €100 while statutory clampers can charge more. I thought the purpose of the act was the protect the public!


  • #4
    savagethegoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭savagethegoat


    there should be no need to protect the public from statutory bodies, i'd say they are publically accountable, The need is to protect the public from cowboys and criminals.


  • #5
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,494 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Does that include a local authority? I think there's double standards here, private clampers can only charge €100 while statutory clampers can charge more. I thought the purpose of the act was the protect the public!

    Councils only charge €80-85.

    Most railway station car parks are operated by private operators.


  • #6
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Victor wrote: »
    Councils only charge €80-85.

    Most railway station car parks are operated by private operators.

    Very true but will still be exempt.

    The Act dosn't actually distinguish between private vs statutory clamping but rather statutory parking places and non-statutory parking places, only non statutory places are subject to the max fee.

    Lands owned or occupied by CIE are listed as "statutory parking places", irrespective of who actually operates the clamping the clamping is still in place on CIE land and not subject to the max.

    Also worth nothing that non statutory parking places can actually have a fee highter than €100 if prescribed by the NTA when the act actually comes into force if ever-nearly 9 months later and it still hasn't come into force.


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  • #7
    n97 mini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    savagethegoat wrote: »
    there should be no need to protect the public from statutory bodies, i'd say they are publically accountable, The need is to protect the public from cowboys and criminals.

    While I agree that there is a need to protect the public from cowboys and criminals it is hugely ironic that instruments of the state can charge more than those cowboys and criminals. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?


  • #8
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Are we saying CIÉ aren't cowboys despite allowing a train line fall into the sea through lack of care?


  • #9
    c_meth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭c_meth


    Is there not a need to protect the public from rogue parking in railway stations ?


  • #10
    eeguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭eeguy


    c_meth wrote: »
    Is there not a need to protect the public from rogue parking in railway stations ?

    Clampers are looking to increase release fees as not enough people are parking illegally and they're not coving their costs.

    The whole system is flawed.


  • #11
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    c_meth wrote: »
    Is there not a need to protect the public from rogue parking in railway stations ?

    If there was a need, then all stations would be paid parking...


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  • #12
    n97 mini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    The irony isn't lost on me either that parking in Dublin city centre is free on Sundays, while pay parking is in operation 24/7 in train stations. Why would you bother using the train when it's more expensive and more hassle.


  • #13
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    It's actually cheaper for me to drive in and park in Connolly Station than to get the train from Rush and Lusk if I've the family with me...


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