Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

ELM327 · 04-12-2018 2:23pm

Jeditraining1 wrote: »

Any got any more details / price on the 40kW upgrade for the 28kW Ioniq? haven't heard anything in a while now.

Was never confirmed, so nothing yet.

Would be very very surprised if this was offered to existing owners.
It may be a case that the 2019/2020 Ioniq is available with the 39kWh from the Kona.

CarefulNow! · 04-12-2018 6:41pm

Rear seatbelt not clipping in on mine, would that be covered under warranty?

unkel · 04-12-2018 8:17pm

Of course. Everything that is not a wear and tear item, like tyres and brakes, should be covered.

mouthful · 07-12-2018 12:52pm

I have just had my 3rd (45k km) service done, I asked that they check the battery health, which they did.

The report indicates the battery is still at 100% which if true is good. I asked them if the measure was the whole of the battery or just the usable 28kw, they advised it was the entirety of the battery.

I expected some losses at this point, and assume they may have only measured the usable element, any thoughts?

liamog · 07-12-2018 4:23pm

New tyres are on, drove back from Naas and hit some heavy rain, I could definitely feel the difference. Lots of surface water and the car felt as planted as a dry day on the old energy savers.

Braking too late into a roundabout also felt much more stable, and less need to gently accelerate off the line.

Can't tell yet but efficiency seems to be the same if not slightly better.

unkel · 07-12-2018 4:27pm

Only 25k on mine but the fronts are nearly gone

Where did you have them fitted and how much did they charge?

liamog · 07-12-2018 4:30pm

unkel wrote: »

Only 25k on mine but the fronts are nearly gone

Where did you have them fitted and how much did they charge?

Got them fitted by Electric Autos, figured I'd support an EV business, was 23 a corner including disposal.

zg3409 · 07-12-2018 6:58pm

In relation to battery health I have torque pro app and odb dongle and it reports 100% battery state of health SOH. I assume it can't be 100% still, but I am low mileage.

I do suspect that it is what the manufacturer wants you to see. Leaf owners got a software update which gave battery % increase?!

See attachment. I have not set it up fully right yet, but the info is on this thread.

denismc · 07-12-2018 7:36pm

liamog wrote: »

New tyres are on, drove back from Naas and hit some heavy rain, I could definitely feel the difference. Lots of surface water and the car felt as planted as a dry day on the old energy savers.

Braking too late into a roundabout also felt much more stable, and less need to gently accelerate off the line.

Can't tell yet but efficiency seems to be the same if not slightly better.

Just wondering if you could name the brand and model of tyre you got?
It would be useful info for anyone looking to change tyres.

Ballylad · 07-12-2018 10:34pm

I put Michelin energy saver 94H, S1 XL, A rated for Fuel, A rated for grip for 96e from oponeo plus 15e fitting and balanced per tyre, very impressed with grip and range.

peposhi · 08-12-2018 8:13am

liamog wrote: »

Got them fitted by Electric Autos, figured I'd support an EV business, was 23 a corner including disposal.

23... That’s quite low for a tire. Unless you put a wheel barrow ones

Old diesel · 08-12-2018 8:53am

peposhi wrote: »

23... That’s quite low for a tire. Unless you put a wheel barrow ones

Bought tyres online - and the 23 euros was just for fittinfun????

Jeditraining1 · 08-12-2018 4:04pm

jeremy_g wrote: »

that was just a rumour around 2017/18 which was never confirmed or denied by Hyundai. so far there is no planned upgrade

It was made available in the US but surprisingly low uptake. We will see. The space for update is in the boot.

liamog · 08-12-2018 5:18pm

Posted a few pages back,

Continental AllSeason Contacts, they were €88 each from EireTyre. Then ElectricAutos to fit, balance etc and dispose of the old ones for €23 each.

Mainly picked them for performance reasons on wet roads and to cover for a couple of weeks of snowy weather.

unkel · 08-12-2018 5:58pm

And you posted test results too, which were pretty impressive. I'll most likely go for them too. I'll get my local place to quote me. I only need 2 though, I wonder is it a bad idea to have 2 summers and 2 all seasons?

punisher5112 · 08-12-2018 6:35pm

unkel wrote: »

And you posted test results too, which were pretty impressive. I'll most likely go for them too. I'll get my local place to quote me. I only need 2 though, I wonder is it a bad idea to have 2 summers and 2 all seasons?

It wouldn't be ideal but you would be aware they are there.

New tyres on the rear as they say....

Fiery mutant · 08-12-2018 6:37pm

I need 2 new on the rear now as well, just under the 80,000km mark, so remarkable use out of the initial pair that came on it. Changed the front ones a few months ago.

unkel · 08-12-2018 8:39pm

Fiery mutant wrote: »

I need 2 new on the rear now as well, just under the 80,000km mark, so remarkable use out of the initial pair that came on it. Changed the front ones a few months ago.

Surely the fronts were the second pair?

unkel · 08-12-2018 8:39pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

New tyres on the rear as they say....

Yep, so it will be a while until I get the grip I want

Fiery mutant · 08-12-2018 9:57pm

unkel wrote: »

Surely the fronts were the second pair?

Well the pair that’s on it now are the second pair. Think I posted about it at the time. Be going in for a service after Christmas so probably get them all done then.

BigAl81 · 10-12-2018 5:48pm

1. Fiery mutant - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171WH
2. liamog - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
3. zale - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 171WH
4. unkel - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
5. Mope - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
6. thelikelylad - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171C
7. woppers - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171WX
8. don't be at yourself - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171D
9. Ballylad - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171CW
10. Coconut Joe - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172D
11. Macker - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue - 181D
12. Fermi - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172MO
13. Johnnyjohnjohns - Ioniq BEV - Aurora Silver - 172D
14. this.lad - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172
15. CarefulNow! - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172D
16. Moreilly - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172KE
17. Neleven - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172 WW
18. DglFlyer -Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171 CE
19. jeremy_g - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171WW
20. miamee - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue - 172D
21. Cocolola - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172G
22. RonanFarrell - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172G
23. rgunning - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171D
24. Doc el brown - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172WW
25. Fitz213 - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
26. lafors - Ioniq BEV - - 181D
27. squishey - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 181D
28. Ewan Hoosarmi - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 181?
29. peaceboi - Ioniq BEV - Blazing Yellow - 171D
30. ELM427 - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 171MH
31. irishgrover - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue - 181 G
32. fricatus - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 181
33. zg3409 - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue 171 G (Dublin area)
34. BigAl81 - Ioniq BEV - White - 191-D

:D:D

patmac · 10-12-2018 7:41pm

patmac wrote: »

Can I join this club, just purchased a 191 Aurora Silver, delighted and thanks for all the help here.

#metoo 191RN

Fishy1 · 10-12-2018 7:57pm

And me! Ioniq Polar White. 181 W (Purchased in September)

rolion · 10-12-2018 9:16pm

Hi all,

Found this ioniq H E R E .
Can i say confidently that it will be kind of top specs for the model,please !?

Thanks

KCross · 10-12-2018 9:16pm

unkel wrote: »

And you posted test results too, which were pretty impressive. I'll most likely go for them too. I'll get my local place to quote me. I only need 2 though, I wonder is it a bad idea to have 2 summers and 2 all seasons?

Yes, is the answer to that!

I guess 2 winter and 2 all-season isnt quite as bad as two winter and 2 summer but I'd imagine the theory is the same... dont mix.

Fishy1 · 10-12-2018 9:32pm

rolion wrote: »

Hi all,

Found this ioniq H E R E .
Can i say confidently that it will be kind of top specs for the model,please !?

Thanks

Yes, the car in your link is the Premium SE. That spec isn’t available on the Ioniqs sold in Ireland, but am guessing that you’re interested in buying in the UK.
I have one, and am very happy with it.

deegs · 10-12-2018 9:35pm

Fishy1 wrote: »

And me! Ioniq Polar White. 181 W (Purchased in September)

Congrats! I guess that means there are only 3 left in Ireland then! No more till end of Feb!

Fishy1 · 10-12-2018 9:42pm

deegs wrote: »

Congrats! I guess that means there are only 3 left in Ireland then! No more till end of Feb!

Not sure about that! I bought mine from an Irish Hyundai dealer who had imported it from the UK.

unkel · 10-12-2018 9:46pm

KCross wrote: »

Yes, is the answer to that!

He has the winters on the front (driven wheels)*, which is probably a lot worse than the other way around. But yeah, grip imbalance is probably not a great idea. I'll check how far all tyres are gone before I make a decision...

*yuk a FWD BMW

but that's the stuff for another thread

deegs · 10-12-2018 9:55pm

Fishy1 wrote: »

Not sure about that! I bought mine from an Irish Hyundai dealer who had imported it from the UK.

Ah, right.. I'm talking about remaining stock from the Korean boat in Nov.
Enjoy all the same

wheres me jumpa · 10-12-2018 10:47pm

Hi All,

Appreciate some feedback on the likely experience here.

My ICE is nearing end of life. I have been trying to hold out for some better range electric vehicles but my hand may be forced soon.

I really like the Ioniq but realise it may not be suitable for my commute. Would love to hear what the likely experience would be.

115km each way, consisting of :

80km motorway speed no traffic, 35km 60-80kmph or often bumper to bumper. Same again on way home in the evening.

Awkward possibility of a granny charger at work. 4 X public chargers short drive away.

In people's experience what would you expect my charging needs to be? Would it be too optimistic to rely on the nearby public chargers? Would a lunch time charge on these get me home? 22kw chargers.

TIA

Jumpa

Ballylad · 10-12-2018 10:48pm

Anyone get any trade in prices against kona ev for 171 Ioniq ev thnks

rolion · 10-12-2018 11:10pm

Fishy1 wrote: »

Not sure about that! I bought mine from an Irish Hyundai dealer who had imported it from the UK.

OK...
My issue is that i'm leasing a business van under contract for couple of years and i can change the van to any other car i like but ...it has to be supplied in Ireland. So, you are saying that if i approach an Irish dealer he can "import" that car for me then my leasing company can "buy it " of them !?

punisher5112 · 10-12-2018 11:11pm

rolion wrote: »

OK...
My issue is that i'm leasing a business van under contract for couple of years and i can change the van to any other car i like but ...it has to be supplied in Ireland. So, you are saying that if i approach an Irish dealer he can "import" that car for me then my leasing company can "buy it " of them !?

Loads of Irish garages are importing UK cars.

They then vrt them usually when sold.

rolion · 10-12-2018 11:14pm

wheres me jumpa wrote: »

Hi All,

Appreciate some feedback on the likely experience here.

My ICE is nearing end of life. I have been trying to hold out for some better range electric vehicles but my hand may be forced soon.

I really like the Ioniq but realise it may not be suitable for my commute. Would love to hear what the likely experience would be.

115km each way, consisting of :

80km motorway speed no traffic, 35km 60-80kmph or often bumper to bumper. Same again on way home in the evening.

Awkward possibility of a granny charger at work. 4 X public chargers short drive away.

In people's experience what would you expect my charging needs to be? Would it be too optimistic to rely on the nearby public chargers? Would a lunch time charge on these get me home? 22kw chargers.

TIA

Jumpa

Not sure about others here but myself without a personal / private charger at home will not have "survived" the presence of my wife today.
Until we got the home charger approved and installed,i had to freeze in the car,almost every night, at every possible public chargers around my home.

I could say that without a home charger you are leaving openly exposed to elements,out of your control and possible,making the whole EV experience a cold offline chase chargers challenge ...

wheres me jumpa · 10-12-2018 11:17pm

rolion wrote: »

Not sure about others here but myself without a personal / private charger at home will not have "survived" the presence of my wife today.
Until we got the home charger approved and installed,i had to freeze in the car,almost every night, at every possible public chargers around my home.

I could say that without a home charger you are leaving openly exposed to elements,out of your control and possible,making the whole EV experience a cold offline chase chargers challenge ...

I was probably baking in a home charger into the equation. The work charger / mid commute is the main problem.

KCross · 10-12-2018 11:18pm

wheres me jumpa wrote: »

Hi All,

Appreciate some feedback on the likely experience here.

My ICE is nearing end of life. I have been trying to hold out for some better range electric vehicles but my hand may be forced soon.

I really like the Ioniq but realise it may not be suitable for my commute. Would love to hear what the likely experience would be.

115km each way, consisting of :

80km motorway speed no traffic, 35km 60-80kmph or often bumper to bumper. Same again on way home in the evening.

Awkward possibility of a granny charger at work. 4 X public chargers short drive away.

In people's experience what would you expect my charging needs to be? Would it be too optimistic to rely on the nearby public chargers? Would a lunch time charge on these get me home? 22kw chargers.

TIA

Jumpa

You need a longer range EV like Kona EV or eNiro that can do the return trip without a stop. You're looking at €38k there though!

or
Get work to install a proper charge point for you and then you could buy an Ioniq, Leaf (30 or 40kWh) or Zoe or eGolf.
or
Stick with ICE

Dont buy an EV to then rely on public chargers. Bad idea.

unkel · 10-12-2018 11:20pm

wheres me jumpa wrote: »

115km each way

You won't be able to do that in Ioniq in winter. Or in any other EV either, except the Teslas and the Kona 64kWh (and the upcoming eNiro 64kWh)

I'd strongly advice against having to rely on public charging on a daily basis, unless there is an Ionity charger on your route (these don't exist yet, planning permission is granted for the first one)

Can your employer not install a charger? Even pay for it yourself? Your fuel savings will be enormous with a commute like that.

Gumbo · 10-12-2018 11:22pm

wheres me jumpa wrote: »

Hi All,

Appreciate some feedback on the likely experience here.

My ICE is nearing end of life. I have been trying to hold out for some better range electric vehicles but my hand may be forced soon.

I really like the Ioniq but realise it may not be suitable for my commute. Would love to hear what the likely experience would be.

115km each way, consisting of :

80km motorway speed no traffic, 35km 60-80kmph or often bumper to bumper. Same again on way home in the evening.

Awkward possibility of a granny charger at work. 4 X public chargers short drive away.

In people's experience what would you expect my charging needs to be? Would it be too optimistic to rely on the nearby public chargers? Would a lunch time charge on these get me home? 22kw chargers.

TIA

Jumpa

If you can granny charge during the day while in work, then an ioniq will be perfect.
Forget about relying on public charge points, it will get tired and annoying real quick and they will be charging for the use by next year.

wheres me jumpa · 10-12-2018 11:26pm

kceire wrote: »

If you can granny charge during the day while in work, then an ioniq will be perfect.
Forget about relying on public charge points, it will get tired and annoying real quick and they will be charging for the use by next year.

Any forecasts of how many hours granny charging I would need?

KCross · 10-12-2018 11:31pm

kceire wrote: »

If you can granny charge during the day while in work, then an ioniq will be perfect.

Would it though?
Over 8hrs it would add about 60% to an Ioniq. That could be cutting it tight for the home leg depending on how much they had to spare on the morning commute.

Its hard to tell for sure without trying it on his commute.

KCross · 10-12-2018 11:32pm

wheres me jumpa wrote: »

Any forecasts of how many hours granny charging I would need?

Granny charging gives about 2kW to the battery so ~14hrs to go from 0-100% as the Ioniq has 28kWh usable.

unkel · 10-12-2018 11:35pm

I presume you'll charge at home to 100% every night. If you drive gently in summer, you won't need any work charging. On a bad day in winter you'd need a couple of hours on the granny charger.

KCross · 10-12-2018 11:48pm

unkel wrote: »

I presume you'll charge at home to 100% every night. If you drive gently in summer, you won't need any work charging. On a bad day in winter you'd need a couple of hours on the granny charger.

I never thought I’d see the day that you would suggest driving 80km on the motorway in an Ioniq at Leafspeed!!!!

wheres me jumpa · 10-12-2018 11:58pm

Thanks for the replies. Something to mull over.

Shefwedfan · 11-12-2018 12:22am

wheres me jumpa wrote: »

Thanks for the replies. Something to mull over.

Granny charger at work will cause issue. Ask HR first. Ask about charger in work, proper one. They can get one that costs like 1 euro....

If not then buy long range, or wait, 12 months will make a huge difference

Shefwedfan · 11-12-2018 12:24am

Ballylad wrote: »

Anyone get any trade in prices against kona ev for 171 Ioniq ev thnks

How much do you want?

liamog · 11-12-2018 12:39am

There was a guy on FB, he was apparetly offered 17k.

unkel · 11-12-2018 1:45am

KCross wrote: »

I never thought I’d see the day that you would suggest driving 80km on the motorway in an Ioniq at Leafspeed!!!!

Haha, I wouldn't be keen on that myself, I'd rather pay my employer than drive at LeafSpeed and that says a lot

Gile_na_gile · 11-12-2018 1:31pm

What is the best possible deal to get a fully electric Ioniq for use in Ireland with all the associated costs?

Having looked at PHEVs, it is really hard not to fantasise perhaps about pushing for the fully electric rather than a compromised PHEV which will not handle as well, will cause anxieties about the engine kicking in, and will become obsolete faster.

I see them second-hand on Autotrader starting at £19k, and second-hand sales in Ireland from €24-25k. I read Unkel's review where it seems it can be had new for around 25-30k including SEAI grant and VRT reduction. What is the absolute cheapest they can be had for SH or new? Finally, via PCP what is a typical premium added to cash price for repayment in 24 months?

Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

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