Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

ELM327

That's a happy face not an angry face for me! :P

OffalyMedic

Got quoted €150 for front grill wrap on my black ioniq. Is that an expensive quote?

iggy

OffalyMedic wrote: »

Got quoted €150 for front grill wrap on my black ioniq. Is that an expensive quote?

Got mine done last Friday for €100 in Rosemount Business Park beside Blanchardstown

OffalyMedic

iggy wrote:

Got mine done last Friday for €100 in Rosemount Business Park beside Blanchardstown

This place I got quote from is closer to home but I might just go to blanch. Won't cost me €50 in fuel 😂

iggy

OffalyMedic wrote: »

This place I got quote from is closer to home but I might just go to blanch. Won't cost me €50 in fuel ��

https://www.facebook.com/wrapitdesign/

unkel

iggy wrote: »

Got mine done last Friday for €100 in Rosemount Business Park beside Blanchardstown

For anyone else interested - that's the guy that did my car, I put up his name and number a few times in this thread. He moved premises. He's a pro, does a great job.

iggy

unkel wrote: »

That's the guy that did my car, I put up his name and number a few times in this thread. He moved premises. He's a pro, does a great job.

Yea u recommended him to me. Great job. Might get the back bumper done too 😀

patmac

1. Fiery mutant - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171WH
2. liamog - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
3. zale - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 171WH
4. unkel - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
5. Mope - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
6. thelikelylad - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171C
7. woppers - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171WX
8. don't be at yourself - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171D
9. Ballylad - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171CW
10. Coconut Joe - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172D
11. Macker - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue - 181D
12. Fermi - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172MO
13. Johnnyjohnjohns - Ioniq BEV - Aurora Silver - 172D
14. this.lad - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172
15. CarefulNow! - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172D
16. Moreilly - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172KE
17. Neleven - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172 WW
18. DglFlyer -Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171 CE
19. jeremy_g - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171WW
20. miamee - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue - 172D
21. Cocolola - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172G
22. RonanFarrell - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172G
23. rgunning - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171D
24. Doc el brown - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172WW
25. Fitz213 - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
26. lafors - Ioniq BEV - - 181D
27. squishey - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 181D
28. Ewan Hoosarmi - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 181?
29. peaceboi - Ioniq BEV - Blazing Yellow - 171D
30. ELM427 - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 171MH :-)
31. irishgrover - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue - 181 G
32. fricatus - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 181
33. zg3409 - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue 171 G (Dublin area)
34. BigAl81 - Ioniq BEV - White - 191-D
37. Mighty Munster - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 191MH
38. OffalyMedic- Ioniq BEV- Phantom Black- 181L (Laois)
39. Casher - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 191WW
40. iggy - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 191D
41. Deegs - ioniq - polar white with groovy black roof wrap 191c
42. shanemkelly - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
43. PATMAC - Ioniq BEV - Aurora Silver - 191RN

Fishy1

44. Fishy1 - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 181W

unkel

Amazing that we have 44 Ioniq Electric owners here on boards. Do we even have as many Leaf owners? There are far more Leafs in the country than Ioniqs. How come we have so many Ioniq owners here?

1. Fiery mutant - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171WH
2. liamog - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
3. zale - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 171WH
4. unkel - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
5. Mope - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
6. thelikelylad - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171C
7. woppers - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171WX
8. don't be at yourself - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171D
9. Ballylad - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171CW
10. Coconut Joe - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172D
11. Macker - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue - 181D
12. Fermi - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172MO
13. Johnnyjohnjohns - Ioniq BEV - Aurora Silver - 172D
14. this.lad - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172
15. CarefulNow! - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172D
16. Moreilly - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172KE
17. Neleven - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172 WW
18. DglFlyer -Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171 CE
19. jeremy_g - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171WW
20. miamee - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue - 172D
21. Cocolola - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172G
22. RonanFarrell - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172G
23. rgunning - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171D
24. Doc el brown - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172WW
25. Fitz213 - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
26. lafors - Ioniq BEV - - 181D
27. squishey - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 181D
28. Ewan Hoosarmi - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 181?
29. peaceboi - Ioniq BEV - Blazing Yellow - 171D
30. ELM427 - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 171MH :-)
31. irishgrover - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue - 181 G
32. fricatus - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 181
33. zg3409 - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue 171 G (Dublin area)
34. BigAl81 - Ioniq BEV - White - 191-D
37. Mighty Munster - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 191MH
38. OffalyMedic- Ioniq BEV- Phantom Black- 181L (Laois)
39. Casher - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 191WW
40. iggy - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 191D
41. Deegs - ioniq - polar white with groovy black roof wrap 191c
42. shanemkelly - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
43. PATMAC - Ioniq BEV - Aurora Silver - 191RN
44. Fishy1 - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 181W

Fiery mutant

For myself, this is where I first heard of the Ioniq. I had some quiet thoughts about going electric, and had previously owned an i30, which I loved.

When I first saw this thread about the Ioniq, it became agreat resource to get information about electric cars and some opinions about electric cars from people more knowledgeable than myself.

If I hadn’t came across this thread, I don’t know if I would have bought one. Couldn’t imagine driving anything else now to be honest.

Mickeroo

My name has disappeared from the list

This thread is also entirely at fault for me buying an Ioniq. Just short of two years ago unkel's enthusiast posts about his test drive turned my head, I had never heard of regenerative braking and asked if I was reading it right that the car charged the battery when it coasts downhill. Someone thought I was being sarcastic but I genuinely hadn't a clue

Mickeroo wrote: »

No worries, I get you now. Been following this thread with great interest for a few weeks now. It's pretty much convinced me I'll be going EV next time I buy

ELM327

unkel wrote: »

Amazing that we have 44 Ioniq Electric owners here on boards. Do we even have as many Leaf owners? There are far more Leafs in the country than Ioniqs. How come we have so many Ioniq owners here?

The leaf is the sheeple choice, if you wanted the best EV on the market before Kona/eNiro then the Ioniq is the only choice, no tesco value battery, faster DC charging, CCS (so not a dead standard like chademo)



Just a pity it didnt work out for me range wise. If it works for yoou with 160km in the depths of winter then it's a great EV, the only choice really, and still probably the best in terms of price effectiveness ratio

ELM327

And the price is coming down too (yes I know it's white but still)

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-ioniq-ev-auto-81-per-week/21434692

MightyMunster

In Kildare village last weekend there were 3 of us charging away beside each other when I came back to move the car after charging . We're Taking over ðŸ˜

Round Cable

ELM327 wrote: »

The leaf is the sheeple choice, if you wanted the best EV on the market before Kona/eNiro then the Ioniq is the only choice, no tesco value battery, faster DC charging, CCS (so not a dead standard like chademo)

Just a pity it didnt work out for me range wise. If it works for yoou with 160km in the depths of winter then it's a great EV, the only choice really, and still probably the best in terms of price effectiveness ratio

It may be the sheeple choice, but they are 2.5 times cheaper second-hand than the Ioniq, and for many it's the only EV they can afford.

Mickeroo

The great thing about the Ioniq is, because of how fast it can charge, the range becomes completely irrelevant if our charging infrastructure ever catches up.

I'm well aware that's a massive if considering what country we live in and how things are generally done here but a guy can dream :pac:

shanemkelly

I only have my 171 Ioniq for a month (and coming from L24 I'm delighted with it!) and need to arrange a service soon.

Is there anything I should specifically ask for, i.e. software update, etc? I assume they'll do the usual EV service (i.e. look around & give it a wash :rolleyes:), but don't want to find out afterwards that I should've asked for something else to be done.

Also, separately, I assume there's no way to set the climate control timer to come on while not being plugged in?

ELM327

Round Cable wrote: »

It may be the sheeple choice, but they are 2.5 times cheaper second-hand than the Ioniq, and for many it's the only EV they can afford.

Ioniq above 23k,

23k/2.5 = 9,400


Any leaf you can buy for €9400 is not a competitor for the Ioniq as it will have probably 70-90km range.

ELM327

shanemkelly wrote: »

I only have my 171 Ioniq for a month (and coming from L24 I'm delighted with it!) and need to arrange a service soon.

Is there anything I should specifically ask for, i.e. software update, etc? I assume they'll do the usual EV service (i.e. look around & give it a wash :rolleyes:), but don't want to find out afterwards that I should've asked for something else to be done.

Also, separately, I assume there's no way to set the climate control timer to come on while not being plugged in?

Make sure they give you the software update, your car needs the latest software as it was last updated in April 2018.


You cannot set the climate control to come on unless the car is plugged in (note, doesn't have to be actively charging, you can set it to not charge but just use the mains to power the climate)


One big drawback from Ioniq, the main one, is the lack of app support.

liamog

Round Cable wrote: »

It may be the sheeple choice, but they are 2.5 times cheaper second-hand than the Ioniq, and for many it's the only EV they can afford.

Are there really that many 2017 Leafs available for €9,000?

Round Cable

liamog wrote: »

Are there really that many 2017 Leafs available for €9,000?

It doesn't matter about the year if it's all you can afford, then it's all you can afford!

If you have a 2 car household, and one person drives less than 80km return a day, does it matter if they do that in a Leaf or Ioniq?

Overall the Ioniq is the superior car, it's efficiency is literally unrivalled (although the Tesla Model 3 standard range comes pretty close!). But if you are a low distance driver, particularly with a second car in the household, then a used Leaf trumps the used Ioniq in the value department by quite a large margin.

ELM327

Round Cable wrote: »

It doesn't matter about the year if it's all you can afford, then it's all you can afford!

If you have a 2 car household, and one person drives less than 80km return a day, does it matter if they do that in a Leaf or Ioniq?

Overall the Ioniq is the superior car, it's efficiency is literally unrivalled (although the Tesla Model 3 standard range comes pretty close!). But if you are a low distance driver, particularly with a second car in the household, then a used Leaf trumps the used Ioniq in the value department by quite a large margin.

As someone who did 60k km in 13 months in a 24kWh leaf, no it doesnt.

Soarer

ELM327 wrote: »

As someone who did 60k km in 13 months in a 24kWh leaf, no it doesnt.

He said a low distance driver.

And in that situation, yes it does.

tom1ie

Round Cable wrote: »

It doesn't matter about the year if it's all you can afford, then it's all you can afford!

If you have a 2 car household, and one person drives less than 80km return a day, does it matter if they do that in a Leaf or Ioniq?

Overall the Ioniq is the superior car, it's efficiency is literally unrivalled (although the Tesla Model 3 standard range comes pretty close!). But if you are a low distance driver, particularly with a second car in the household, then a used Leaf trumps the used Ioniq in the value department by quite a large margin.

Well if this is true and the leaf does indeed trump the ioniq when looking at small commutes and value for money, is it true that a battery owned Zoe for 10k trumps a leaf?

Soarer

tom1ie wrote: »

Well if this is true and the leaf does indeed trump the ioniq when looking at small commutes and value for money, is it true that a battery owned Zoe for 10k trumps a leaf?

Again, depends on what you're looking for.

A Leaf is a more substantial car than the Zoe, and feels a lot more solid.
If your driving distance is covered by the Leaf, I'd chose the Leaf over the Zoe every day. Especially if you can get the L24 Tekna /SVE.

Round Cable

ELM327 wrote: »

As someone who did 60k km in 13 months in a 24kWh leaf, no it doesnt.

I was talking about short distances between home charges, less than 100km, and not total km per year. Why would you pay far more for an secondhand Ioniq than a Leaf in that case? In terms of economics, it would seem to be madness.

tom1ie wrote: »

Well if this is true and the leaf does indeed trump the ioniq when looking at small commutes and value for money, is it true that a battery owned Zoe for 10k trumps a leaf?

There wouldn't be much in it at that price point to be honest, again it depends on personal circumstances, the Leaf/Ioniq are bigger than a Zoe, so that might also be important consideration for some people, and not for others.

tom1ie

Soarer wrote: »

Again, depends on what you're looking for.

A Leaf is a more substantial car than the Zoe, and feels a lot more solid.
If your driving distance is covered by the Leaf, I'd chose the Leaf over the Zoe every day. Especially if you can get the L24 Tekna /SVE.

So my commute will require a dirt diesel or a model 3 long distance. However my wife’s commute is only 20k a day, if she’s not cycling.
We need a second car, so as I can’t afford a Tesla- yet, We are looking at getting an ev for our second occasional use car.
The spec leaf that you mention (l24 tekna) are €17900 (2016) (cars Ireland) compared to Renault Zoe DYNAMIQUE INTENS (2015) that’s coming in at €9950.
That’s battery owned. That’s €7950 in the difference. Pretty big chunk of money?

tom1ie

Round Cable wrote: »

I was talking about short distances between home charges, less than 100km, and not total km per year. Why would you pay far more for an secondhand Ioniq than a Leaf in that case? In terms of economics, it would seem to be madness.



There wouldn't be much in it at that price point to be honest, again it depends on personal circumstances, the Leaf/Ioniq are bigger than a Zoe, so that might also be important consideration for some people, and not for others.

Once the Zoe meets the following criteria:
Is a safe car to drive.
Battery owned.
Can take two child’s car seats in rear.
Can handle 20km commute daily.

The leaf provides all this but will cost nearly 8k more if I go for that spec.

ELM327

tom1ie wrote: »

Well if this is true and the leaf does indeed trump the ioniq when looking at small commutes and value for money, is it true that a battery owned Zoe for 10k trumps a leaf?

Sure we might as well all drive around in '96 fiestas so if cheapness is the only concern

Soarer

tom1ie wrote: »

So my commute will require a dirt diesel or a model 3 long distance. However my wife’s commute is only 20k a day, if she’s not cycling.
We need a second car, so as I can’t afford a Tesla- yet, We are looking at getting an ev for our second occasional use car.
The spec leaf that you mention (l24 tekna) are €17900 (2016) (cars Ireland) compared to Renault Zoe DYNAMIQUE INTENS (2015) that’s coming in at €9950.
That’s battery owned. That’s €7950 in the difference. Pretty big chunk of money?

I said IF you can get a Tekna.
There's a Tekna for sale in Kildare for €14k. Granted it's not €10k, but it's €4k cheaper than the one you mentioned.

If your wife's commute is 20kms per day, then this 151 SV with FNSH (high miles) for €10k would suit down to the ground.

tom1ie

ELM327 wrote: »

Sure we might as well all drive around in '96 fiestas so if cheapness is the only concern

.......ok, good advice :rolleyes:
I take it you think Zoe’s are cheap when compared to leafs, is that it?

tom1ie

Soarer wrote: »

I said IF you can get a Tekna.
There's a Tekna for sale in Kildare for €14k. Granted it's not €10k, but it's €4k cheaper than the one you mentioned.

If your wife's commute is 20kms per day, then this 151 SV with FNSH (high miles) for €10k would suit down to the ground.

Thanks soarer. It’s nice to get helpful posts on this forum.

Soarer

tom1ie wrote: »

Once the Zoe meets the following criteria:
Is a safe car to drive.
Battery owned.
Can take two child’s car seats in rear.
Can handle 20km commute daily.

The leaf provides all this but will cost nearly 8k more if I go for that spec.

Then don't go for that spec!

In your (wife's) situation, the cheapest Leaf on DoneDeal would suit.
I've a 2011 Leaf with 3 bars gone from the battery (~67% SOH according to LeafSpy).
I've a commute similar to your wife's, and it suits me perfectly for that.

Soarer

tom1ie wrote: »

Thanks soarer. It’s nice to get helpful posts on this forum.

No worries.

@ELM127: Don't worry. The irony of the Ioniq thread being flooded with Leaf talk isn't lost on me! :P

ELM327

tom1ie wrote: »

.......ok, good advice :rolleyes:
I take it you think Zoe’s are cheap when compared to leafs, is that it?

Zoe are overpriced, but a great option as a second car if you can get a ZE40/Q90 model.


Leaf are overpriced tesco value battery, Ioniq is the best value right now for money.

handpref

ELM327 wrote: »

Zoe are overpriced, but a great option as a second car if you can get a ZE40/Q90 model.


Leaf are overpriced tesco value battery, Ioniq is the best value right now for money.

My head says a used ioniq for hopefully €22,000, a 30kw Leaf would do but I get fed up driving by leafs every day. A decent 30kw tekna would be 18k.
The wife likes the Zoe, possible 21k - the zoe isn’t half the car the ioniq is but it has got a bit more like ability for the females and to be honest I like them myself. I’d have to drive it twice a week.

So I guess the option is the return of a leaf to the household albeit a 30kw, an ioniq- a sensible, respected, efficient and well equipped car or follow the wife’s style preference for a Zoe 40...?

I know that in 5-10 years down the road the ioniq will probably be the better car ...but the Zoe is that bit more quirky..

ELM327

The Zoe's advantage will be removed soon, when the AC43 fast chargers (assuming you can get a Q model in the first place) stop being supported. It's a dead standard and in fully private markets like Norway they no longer install it on chargers, usually 22kW ac only.

Even with a fast charging Zoe at a fast 43 AC charger, it still takes over 1 hour to 80%.

It's hard to look past an Ioniq when you consider it's only 1-4 grand more than a 30kWh leaf for a 2017 model. There's a couple now from dealers for 23k asking (and they are still under manufacturer warranty)

unkel

ELM327 wrote: »

There's a couple now from dealers for 23k asking (and they are still under manufacturer warranty)

Even on an early model (171) there would be 3 years bumper to bumper manufacturer warranty left and 6 years warranty on battery, motor and drivetrain

The cheapest from a dealer is a white one for €23,450. I doubt you will get that for under €23k though. New scrappage deal for €26k is far better value for money, but I'm not sure if that is still available anywhere...

I've mine 2 years next week, 30k km. Need to book it in for another service.

tom1ie

The ioniq is clearly the better car compared to the leaf or Zoe, the problem is I don’t have 23k to spend on a second car.
Therefore in my case the Zoe, or low spec leaf, is better value for money, when I consider my budget and the relatively small commute.

unkel

The best EV bang for your buck if you're on a budget is a 141 Leaf 24kWh from about €9k

tom1ie

unkel wrote: »

The best EV bang for your buck if you're on a budget is a 141 Leaf 24kWh from about €9k

Honestly the cheapest I have found is 11950. Unless we are talking about bringing in a uk model.

tom1ie

There’s a 2013 model (doesn’t say spec) for 9450. 60k km.

unkel

tom1ie wrote: »

Honestly the cheapest I have found is 11950. Unless we are talking about bringing in a uk model.

I said from. You won't get a top spec SVE / Tekna model for that kinda money. There are some low and mid spec Leafs for sale for €9k now and then, even recently from a respected second hand EV dealer (so with warranty), but you have to be vigilant.

If you're serious, ring Phil in electricautos.ie, have a chat, tell him your budget restricitions and he will find you one that suits.

What I would do is bring one in from the UK myself. This one is £6,995 (battery owned). Haggle a couple hundred off, get a good exchange rate (like with Revolut), get a cheap flight and cheap ferry and you can land that in Ireland on Irish plates for €8k

Linky

KCross

That one's a Visia... really poor spec. If it suits then alright, but it would be immediately off my list anyway being a Visia.

You'd also want to double check it has DC charging.... I know at some point the Visia's didnt have DC charging as standard... maybe they did by 2014 but I'd definitely ask before flying over!

ELM327

KCross wrote: »

That one's a Visia... really poor spec. If it suits then alright, but it would be immediately off my list anyway being a Visia.

You'd also want to double check it has DC charging.... I know at some point the Visia's didnt have DC charging as standard... maybe they did by 2014 but I'd definitely ask before flying over!

yes steer clear, doesnt even have the screen or anything.
SV spec minimum, avoid XE and I would suggest the cold pack and/or SVE as prerequisite

unkel

Beggars can't be choosers. If you only have €8k, you should get this car and not a 2011 high spec one with a poor battery that's now significantly degraded. But you're right of course to make sure it has DC charging.

And if you have €9k, you should be able to get a 141 Acenta / SV

ELM327

I'd suggest this would be infinitely a better buy than spending more on a crap spec model

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-leaf-e-model-service-history-2-keys/21372032

unkel

Impressive it still has all 12 bars!

KCross

unkel wrote: »

Impressive it still has all 12 bars!

They're lying. The pic shows its not 12 bars, looks like 10.

I doubt there is a single 2011-2012 Leaf that still has 12 bars.