Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

Silent Running

Black_Knight wrote: »

Did someone mention here before about using an extension lead with a granny cable? Something about them melting? Does the extension lead need to be of a certain standard? I'd like to charge move overnight but that'd mean leaving a door or window open

If you're using an extension lead it should be heavy enough wire, not a very cheap pound shop one. It needs to be fully uncoiled or it will heat up... a lot.

Black_Knight

Silent Running wrote: »

If you're using an extension lead it should be heavy enough wire, not a very cheap pound shop one. It needs to be fully uncoiled or it will heat up... a lot.

I don't think I'll trust my Lidl extension lead overnight so. Got up to 70% now. I'll plug it back in in the morning

Silent Running

Black_Knight wrote: »

I don't think I'll trust my Lidl extension lead overnight so. Got up to 70% now. I'll plug it back in in the morning

The Lidl extension is probably fine, once it's fully unrolled. But it's not worth losing sleep worrying about it.

Black_Knight

Silent Running wrote: »

The Lidl extension is probably fine, once it's fully unrolled. But it's not worth losing sleep worrying about it.

Meh. 70%. Plug it in in the morning. Blitz around in the car tomorrow to show the wife. Plug it back in. 160km round trip on Monday. Be grand.

irishgrover

Just home from a 780km round trip from Galway to Belfast....I do love my ioniq 😀

Silent Running

irishgrover wrote: »

Just home from a 780km round trip from Galway to Belfast....I do love my ioniq ��

I have to agree, it's a brilliant car on a long run. I feel sorry for the owners who won't take the car on a long run because of charging issues around Dublin.

I've taken the car top to bottom and side to side of this country, and side to side of the UK too. I'd happily take it to France, Germany etc. A stress free long distance car in my experience.

fricatus

Silent Running wrote: »

I've taken the car top to bottom and side to side of this country, and side to side of the UK too. I'd happily take it to France, Germany etc. A stress free long distance car in my experience.

Well yeah, as long as there are chargers available! TBH, I’m happy going anywhere but Dublin - but the Ionity chargers near Kill should ease my mind.

How did you handle the UK? I might take mine there soon. Did you just use Ecotricity or did you have to sign up to other networks?

liamog

fricatus wrote: »

Well yeah, as long as there are chargers available! TBH, I’m happy going anywhere but Dublin - but the Ionity chargers near Kill should ease my mind.

How did you handle the UK? I might take mine there soon. Did you just use Ecotricity or did you have to sign up to other networks?

We took the Ioniq through the UK, personally I'd avoid Ecotricity and use zap map to find other chargers.

Ecotricity use older DBT chargers that take an extra 15 mins to charge the Ioniq than standard 50kW chargers.

GreeBo

fricatus wrote: »

I think I recall that. The comment was to the effect that you had to unroll the extension lead to use it charging a car. If you left it coiled, that portion would overheat and could cause a fire.

Fyi you should always fully open an extension lead and a Hoover lead for that matter!

Black_Knight

Registered for the grant, but need the log book to reg for the ESB card. Ugh, this is going to be a painful ~2weeks waiting on the log book. You know the people who set these requirements never once thought about the end user.

Mickeroo

Black_Knight wrote: »

Registered for the grant, but need the log book to reg for the ESB card. Ugh, this is going to be a painful ~2weeks waiting on the log book. You know the people who set these requirements never once thought about the end user.

Download the app ZE pass, you can activate the chargers with it. Plugsurfing might work too. Saves you ringing the esb.

Mupchease

Black_Knight wrote: »

Registered for the grant, but need the log book to reg for the ESB card. Ugh, this is going to be a painful ~2weeks waiting on the log book. You know the people who set these requirements never once thought about the end user.

I had my grant done since January misplaced the letter finally sent it on nearly 4 weeks ago. I got an email saying it will be 4/6 weeks wait.

zg3409

Mickeroo wrote: »

Black_Knight wrote: »

Registered for the grant, but need the log book to reg for the ESB card. Ugh, this is going to be a painful ~2weeks waiting on the log book. You know the people who set these requirements never once thought about the end user.

Download the app ZE pass, you can activate the chargers with it. Plugsurfing might work too. Saves you ringing the esb.

Zepass has changed name to Charge my EV. You can start the esb chargers by ringing them until you get your card. You should also download ionity app, and register with easygo.ie and they will send you a fob for free. They have a new app for their chargers in the next few weeks. Plugshare is a good app for finding non esb charge points and for getting feedback on their status. Set up filters to suit the Ioniq such as CCS fast chargers only or type 2 slow chargers. Some Tesla destination slow chargers can charge ioniq too.

Black_Knight

ESB picking up phones on weekends/ bank holidays? Guess their number will be on the charger itself

Mickeroo

Black_Knight wrote: »

ESB picking up phones on weekends/ bank holidays? Guess their number will be on the charger itself

It's on the charger yeah and it's availabke 24 hours. Never had any issues the few times I had to ring them.

Black_Knight

Charge my EV looks interesting. Local CCS charger is in use. I'll head out to it once it says available

Silent Running

Black_Knight wrote: »

Registered for the grant, but need the log book to reg for the ESB card. Ugh, this is going to be a painful ~2weeks waiting on the log book. You know the people who set these requirements never once thought about the end user.

Apply for a NI card. No log book needed and it works at all of the chargers. The card comes from the same place. That's what I did when I got the car.

Silent Running

liamog wrote: »

We took the Ioniq through the UK, personally I'd avoid Ecotricity and use zap map to find other chargers.

Ecotricity use older DBT chargers that take an extra 15 mins to charge the Ioniq than standard 50kW chargers.

It's hard to avoid Ecotricity if you're using the motorway network. They're the only choice in motorway service areas. You have to leave the motorway to use another supplier. I travel the M4 and M25 a lot using Ecotricity chargers. While they aren't ideal in terms of reliability, they'll normally get you there. There's a big CCS gap between Cardiff Gate and Membury services, but before and after is pretty well served with CCS chargers.

By the way, I've pulled into Ecotricity chargers that are marked as out of service on Zap Map and used them without issue.

Black_Knight

Got chatting ESB, they told me they no longer require the log book.

They got me going on the fast charger too. Got 90something % battery, until a leaf arrived and for some reason or another they knocked me off charging. I think since ESB did it remotely, my session was just active on the charger screen, and Mr. Leaf guy just hit stop (or not, i've no idea what he did) in order to scan his card and get his car charging.

Pure speculation, but as soon as the leaf started charging, I was not charging.

About time I popped up a snap:


Needs a wrap, but all in good time.

denismc

Nice looking car, well wear.
The fast chargers can only handle one car charging at a time so when the Leaf plugged in your charge stopped, most people are courteous enough to wait though, I would be a little pissed if that happened to me.

Black_Knight

denismc wrote: »

Nice looking car, well wear.
The fast chargers can only handle one car charging at a time so when the Leaf plugged in your charge stopped, most people are courteous enough to wait though, I would be a little pissed if that happened to me.

Ah, I thought it would of acted like the current charging car gets priority, no?
That's a bit crappy from ecars, and yeah, pretty crap from the guy who plugged in, though im sure ignorance played a big part on his behalf. Sure I didn't even know.

Loving the car so far. Any know what the EV equivalent of "smiles per gallon" is?

zg3409

I thought it would of acted like the current charging car gets priority, no?

It is supposed to work that way. On most triple chargers if CCS is charging then Chademo is not possible until CCS stops. However some chargers seem to glitch and switch over. I would have thought chademo should not even be an option when CCS is in use, but it seems to allow it. The general best practice is to stay with your car if you really need the charge as others can also cut you off with the emergency stop button, which is supposed to only be used in an emergency. You should use the card that started the charge to stop the charge.

Kramer

Black_Knight wrote: »

Got 90something % battery, until a leaf arrived

Stopped at 90 something percent.....
94% perhaps?

Ioniq automatically stops charging at 94% on a fast charger..............maybe you were expecting it to go to 100% & are others are now blaming the Leaf driver erroneously?

Well wear by the way, nice car the Ioniq so I hear .

unkel

Black_Knight wrote: »

That's a bit crappy from ecars, and yeah, pretty crap from the guy who plugged in

Not eCars fault this time. It's the fault of the Efacec chargers. Their reliability is pretty brutal now many of them are a good few years old. Loads of issues with the card reader too, and Efacec engineers flown in from Portugal to solve problems have been unable to fix them in the past, leaving the busiest fast charging point in the country out of action for months last year

And the other guy who plugged in was probably another ignorant fecker who didn't even realise his plugging in would stop your charge. Mind, you were at 90%, you should really have unplugged already when there was another EV coming in sight

Well wear on your Ioniq, it looks mighty clean

Will you do the honours, read through the last few pages of this thread and do up a new owners list, yourself included? I guess we are hitting 50 boardsie Ionig EV owners now!

unkel

My own car is 25 months old now, about 32k km done with zero issues. Booked in for its second service on Tuesday.

The pigeon man

unkel wrote: »

My own car is 25 months old now, about 32k km done with zero issues. Booked in for its second service on Tuesday.

I looked it up online it seems more like an inspection than a service. They change the pollen filter, break fluid, give it a wash and vacuum for €130.

It seems more like a money racket to me having a yearly service. There doesn't seem to be any real "maintenance" to be done.

liamog

The pigeon man wrote: »

I looked it up online it seems more like an inspection than a service. They change the pollen filter, break fluid, give it a wash and vacuum for €130.

It seems more like a money racket to me having a yearly service. There doesn't seem to be any real "maintenance" to be done.

The yearly/15,000km Ioniq service interval is probably as much about collecting fleet data as maintaining the car.

unkel

The pigeon man wrote: »

I looked it up online it seems more like an inspection than a service. They change the pollen filter, break fluid, give it a wash and vacuum for €130.

It seems more like a money racket to me having a yearly service. There doesn't seem to be any real "maintenance" to be done.

I'm paying €0.00 for it

Same as last year when my car got its first "service"

The pigeon man

No harm so. It's a lovely car, I'm looking forward to see the 2020 model. I think it'll be a big seller once the price is right.

denismc

I have been quoted 130 euro as well, just wondering if your warranty is void if you son't service it?

Black_Knight

unkel wrote: »

And the other guy who plugged in was probably another ignorant fecker who didn't even realise his plugging in would stop your charge. Mind, you were at 90%, you should really have unplugged already when there was another EV coming in sight

Well wear on your Ioniq, it looks mighty clean

Will you do the honours, read through the last few pages of this thread and do up a new owners list, yourself included? I guess we are hitting 50 boardsie Ionig EV owners now!

My own ignorance played a part. Didn't know only 1 could charge at a time. I'm a wiser man now.

Possibly was at 94% when he arrived and the timing was just coincidence.

Black_Knight

denismc wrote: »

I have been quoted 130 euro as well, just wondering if your warranty is void if you son't service it?

Yup, Hyundai quoted me the same. Not for another year though.

irishgrover

I spent 50 on the 1st service and 70 on the second... I'm due the 3rd quite shortly.... (Hyundai Limerick)...

Mickeroo

Are the stock tyres on the Ioniq run flats does anyone know?

ELM327

Mine were not

irishgrover

in terms of servicing, can anyone confirm what the latest map/software/firmware versions should be?
Also do the functionality I've seen fro mupdates in the UK, with charger startus built in, work with any irish chargers?
thanks

unkel

irishgrover wrote: »

in terms of servicing, can anyone confirm what the latest map/software/firmware versions should be?
Also do the functionality I've seen fro mupdates in the UK, with charger startus built in, work with any irish chargers?
thanks

Mine was updated 2 days ago during the cars second service. I'll take a pic of the settings later and I'll post it up. Haven't looked at the chargers on the maps yet.

Mickeroo

I thought Silent Running said the live status works when they got theirs updated when I was asking before (think it was them anyway).

Hyundai Galway didn't bother to update mine before I picked up the car n Feb :rolleyes: My fault for not telling them I suppose but would have expected it to be standard procedure on a brand new car to update that stuff before collection...

unkel

Mickeroo wrote: »

Hyundai Galway didn't bother to update mine before I picked up the car n Feb :rolleyes: My fault for not telling them I suppose but would have expected it to be standard procedure on a brand new car to update that stuff before collection...

Just go to your local Hyundai dealer and demand it be done under warranty. The way to do that is look up what the latest version is supposed to have fixed, then go to your dealer complaining about the fault and telling them that the update will fix the problem. Warranty fix

unkel

Latest software and map versions:



All the charge points including fast chargers now included so it seems:



You can see the live traffic, but I don't think there's a live status on the chargers:





As can be expected, the CHAdeMO chargers that have recently been replaced with triple head ones, like the one at Newland's cross, are still only in as CHAdeMO

Still, a nice update

Black_Knight

Does Android auto work wirelessly in the Ioniq?

I don't have a wireless charging phone at the moment, but having one, and still having to connect the phone via USB for android Auto would kinda suck.

Mickeroo

Black_Knight wrote: »

Does Android auto work wirelessly in the Ioniq?

I don't have a wireless charging phone at the moment, but having one, and still having to connect the phone via USB for android Auto would kinda suck.

No you need a cable. I didn't think there was such a thing as android auto wireless anyway, or at least not until very recently.

irishgrover

Black_Knight wrote: »

Does Android auto work wirelessly in the Ioniq?

I don't have a wireless charging phone at the moment, but having one, and still having to connect the phone via USB for android Auto would kinda suck.

it does kinda suck....I don't even have wireless charging and I still find it sucky...(it illogical)

Black_Knight

Is there any logic to the software/firmware/maps version numbers?

Mine don't match Unkles, and I asked the dealer to make sure it had all the latest updates and they said yes (lied as they usually do).

unkel

Jaysus that's the original software from 2016

That dealer was pretty incompetent and so were the other dealers where the car was serviced...

Silent Running

Yeah, strange that it was never updated. That'll have the old memory loss glitches too.

Silent Running

Mickeroo wrote: »

I thought Silent Running said the live status works when they got theirs updated when I was asking before (think it was them anyway).

Hyundai Galway didn't bother to update mine before I picked up the car n Feb :rolleyes: My fault for not telling them I suppose but would have expected it to be standard procedure on a brand new car to update that stuff before collection...

Just saw this now.

The live status is definitely there in the software. The unit needs to be connected (tethered) to t'internet to download the live file. I can't remember if/how well it works though. I don't use it.

unkel

I was live alright (see the updated traffic info) tethered to my phone. Didn't see anything to indicate the chargers had live info on them (as in occupied or not), but maybe I missed something.

Mickeroo wrote: »

No you need a cable. I didn't think there was such a thing as android auto wireless anyway, or at least not until very recently.

Android Auto wireless exists alright. It's part of the latest version of Android. If you have say a Google Pixel 3 or a Samsung S10, it came with it. If you have a S9 or S8 you should have got it OTA by now. Problem is that no car presently available has the hardware built in afaik.

Nearly all my phones have been wireless charging since about 2012 and I have no intention to ever plug my phone in again for anything, so I don't use Android Auto in Ioniq. I obviously do use the wireless charger. A brilliant standard spec feature on a budget 2016 car, well done Hyundai!

Silent Running

unkel wrote: »

I was live alright (see the updated traffic info) tethered to my phone. Didn't see anything to indicate the chargers had live info on them (as in occupied or not), but maybe I missed something.

It's been a while since I played with it. Did you download a file when in the list of chargers. I think there was a button on the top right of the screen somewhere. I'll check next time I'm in the car.

unkel

Off to do a city centre run return trip now, I'll have another look when at traffic lights