Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

unkel

Some people bought their brand new 191 white Ioniqs for €26k on the road. Amazing that you should be able to sell your second hand car now privately for around the same money

That said, would you not just keep it, deegs? The car costs virtually nothing to own once you have bought it.

beanian

unkel wrote: »

Some people bought their brand new 191 white Ioniqs for €26k on the road.

€26k after a trade in surely? I purchased one this year and even the paddy spec was well above €26k straight sale

unkel

beanian wrote: »

€26k after a trade in surely?

Nope. Incredibly there was a scrappage deal going on for a few weeks in some dealers at the start of the year. People got €4k scrappage for somtimes a wortless old banger, so they paid €26k on the road

And there is no paddy spec Ioniq EV! All Irish cars are the Premium spec. Which is a pretty good spec.

Mickeroo

beanian wrote: »

€26k after a trade in surely? I purchased one this year and even the paddy spec was well above €26k straight sale

Yeah, on the road price is 31k, you need scrappage or trade in to get any less than that. Mine cost 27k after scrappage, I think it might have been possible to get 26k if you went for the white model as I think it's a grand or so cheaper.

bodgerfederer

bodgerfederer wrote: »

Thanks a million for that, really appreciated.

As for putting bikes on the roof as Unkle suggested, is any one else out there using a roof rack - how do they impact on the efficiency and are they ok to fit?

Ended up letting it go. Didn’t want the hassle of fitting a tow bar or being stuck with an ugly roof rack on what would be the most expensive car I ever bought. Looks like an egolf or leaf40 for me. Thanks for the info though everyone.

Kramer

So anyone here ever had the motor replaced in their Ioniq, or heard of a case where a motor was replaced?

listermint

Kramer wrote: »

So anyone here ever had the motor replaced in their Ioniq, or heard of a case where a motor was replaced?

Why?

Petetheroadie

Kramer wrote: »

So anyone here ever had the motor replaced in their Ioniq, or heard of a case where a motor was replaced?

I've probably read everything ever written about the Ioniq at this stage and I haven't heard anything about a motor being replaced. At the end of the day though, it's still a car, and things break occasionally, but that's what the 5 year warranty is for.

ELM327

Petetheroadie wrote: »

I've probably read everything ever written about the Ioniq at this stage and I haven't heard anything about a motor being replaced. At the end of the day though, it's still a car, and things break occasionally, but that's what the 5 year warranty is for.

Is it not 8 years on battery/drivetrain

adunis

Hello ?,it's an electric motor it's got 2 moving parts and a simple reduction box& diff maybe 20 parts what are the odds ?.
I would worry about
Normal car stuff ie onsumables
A/c system
Inverters
Chargers
Batteries
In that order ie all the high power stuff.
Just like ANY other electric car.
The only instance of motor "failure" I'm aware of is very early q90 Zoe's and that was just noisy bearings all swapped out without any drama.

Kramer

Yeah, motor replacement scheduled - whining/clicking noise on regeneration which the dealer, in conjunction with Hyundai, diagnosed as the motor.

Not unduly perturbed as these things happen - was just curious if anyone had ever heard of this before. Apparently it's an €8k part & takes a good day or more to replace so Hyundai made 100% sure before authorising this under warranty.

Tooth sheared on the reduction gear I reckon or possibly a bearing.
191 Ioniq by the way with 30,000km.

fricatus

Kramer wrote: »

Apparently it's an €8k part & takes a good day or more to replace so Hyundai made 100% sure before authorising this under warranty.

Ouch! (For Hyundai... )

KCross

Kramer wrote: »

Yeah, motor replacement scheduled - whining/clicking noise on regeneration which the dealer, in conjunction with Hyundai, diagnosed as the motor.

Not unduly perturbed as these things happen - was just curious if anyone had ever heard of this before. Apparently it's an €8k part & takes a good day or more to replace so Hyundai made 100% sure before authorising this under warranty.

Tooth sheared on the reduction gear I reckon or possibly a bearing.
191 Ioniq by the way with 30,000km.

Its somewhat reassuring it happened in a 191 and not an older one. Since it happened in a 191 its likely a manufacturing defect to just your car and it just took a few months to grind itself down and not a general issue likely to happen others, imo.

Good learning experience for that dealer!

adunis

Ahh yes good old throwaway society,let's chuck out the entire motor/"gearbox" for the want of a couple of bearings,makes my blood boil.
Hopefully it makes its way back to Hyundai for refurb.

KCross

adunis wrote: »

Ahh yes good old throwaway society,let's chuck out the entire motor/"gearbox" for the want of a couple of bearings,makes my blood boil.
Hopefully it makes its way back to Hyundai for refurb.

You can be sure they'll want to see it. Its an €8k part, they'll want to know why!

Its probably an all in one unit. For a 191 I'd rather the entire thing changed rather than the bearings changed and then find a few years down the road that there is premature wear in some other element of the unit which has just taken longer to manifest.... send it back and get a new one.

Petetheroadie

ELM327 wrote: »

Petetheroadie wrote: »

I've probably read everything ever written about the Ioniq at this stage and I haven't heard anything about a motor being replaced. At the end of the day though, it's still a car, and things break occasionally, but that's what the 5 year warranty is for.

Is it not 8 years on battery/drivetrain

Yep, it is, sorry. 5 years for everything else.

Black_Knight

Done. Front and rear wrapped. Rears tinted too



upload image

Mickeroo

Lookin well.

unkel

If you're under 30, you should have done the roof too :pac:

Black_Knight

unkel wrote: »

If you're under 30, you should have done the roof too :pac:

I am not.

deegs

unkel wrote: »

If you're under 30, you should have done the roof too :pac:

I am not and I did

slave1

Black_Knight wrote: »

Done. Front and rear wrapped. Rears tinted too

Very nice but jazuz that AA sign and Bolands reg plate surround

unkel

deegs wrote: »

I am not and I did

I probably would have done it myself if I had a white Ioniq and it is a very long time ago that I was under 30 :pac:

Black_Knight

slave1 wrote: »

Very nice but jazuz that AA sign and Bolands reg plate surround

Yup. New number plate surround is on the to do list. It's horrifically OTT by Bolands
Saving pealing the AA sticker off for a special occasion.

Silent Running

Black_Knight wrote: »

Yup. New number plate surround is on the to do list. It's horrifically OTT by Bolands
Saving pealing the AA sticker off for a special occasion.

A bit of universal solvent on a rag gets the silver stuff off and leaves just a black surround. Looks much better.

zg3409

Not mine, but I said I would put it here for those looking:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2017-hyundai-ioniq-premium-electric/23103645

20,800 for 171 in Dublin. 21,000 miles so may be UK import.

Black_Knight

zg3409 wrote: »

Not mine, but I said I would put it here for those looking:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2017-hyundai-ioniq-premium-electric/23103645

20,800 for 171 in Dublin. 21,000 miles so may be UK import.

Good price, if you like the colour. Terrible ad though.

ELM327

now that is a bargain

Mickeroo

Pretty sure that car is a boardsie as I saw thos pics on here before. Actually think that colour looks great with the black wrap. Rare colour too.

baldshin

Shocking poor ad but fantastic value. Add in another few hundred to get the front wrap done again though, as it looks to be peeling in the pictures.

Old diesel

Mickeroo wrote: »

Pretty sure that car is a boardsie as I saw thos pics on here before. Actually think that colour looks great with the black wrap. Rare colour too.

There's a boardsie with that username alright.

Think he might even be on the owners list.

ELM327

mouthful wrote: »

1. Fiery mutant - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171WH
2. liamog - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
3. zale - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 171WH
4. unkel - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
5. Mope - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
6. thelikelylad - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171C
7. woppers - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171WX
8. don't be at yourself - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171D
9. Ballylad - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171CW
10. Coconut Joe - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172D
11. Macker - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue - 181D
12. Fermi - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172MO
13. Johnnyjohnjohns - Ioniq BEV - Aurora Silver - 172D
14. this.lad - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172
15. CarefulNow! - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172D
16. Moreilly - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172KE
17. Neleven - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172 WW
18. DglFlyer -Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171 CE
19. jeremy_g - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171WW
20. miamee - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue - 172D
21. Cocolola - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172G
22. RonanFarrell - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172G
23. rgunning - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171D
24. Doc el brown - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172WW
25. Fitz213 - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
26. lafors - Ioniq BEV - - 181D
27. squishey - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 181D
28. Ewan Hoosarmi - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 181?
29. peaceboi - Ioniq BEV - Blazing Yellow - 171D
30. irishgrover - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue - 181 G
31. fricatus - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 181
32. zg3409 - Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue 171 G (Dublin area)
33. BigAl81 - Ioniq BEV - White - 191-D
34. Mighty Munster - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 191MH
35. OffalyMedic- Ioniq BEV- Phantom Black- 181L (Laois)
36. Casher - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 191WW
37. iggy - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 191D
38. Deegs - ioniq - polar white with groovy black roof wrap 191c
39. shanemkelly - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
40. PATMAC - Ioniq BEV - Aurora Silver - 191RN
41. Fishy1 - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 181W
42. jjcahill78 - ioniq BEV - Fiery red - 191 CW
43. relgoog - Ioniq BEV - Iron Grey - 182D
44. Black_Knight - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171CE
45. beanian - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 191D
46. adunis - Ioniq BEV - White - 171L
47. this.lad - Ioniq BEV - 192
48. jusmeig - Ioniq BEV - 181D
49. cafard - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 192G

50. Petetheroadie - Ioniq BEV - Pearl Iron Grey - 191MH
51. Mouthful Ioniq BEV 172D. Black 75k enjoyed km on the clock

Yup, he's a boardsie

krissovo

Love the color!

KCross

I like the colour too.


Seems he has it since Mar 2018, UK import...
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=106466201&postcount=4537

Black_Knight

Pretty much selling it for what he bought it for. £18500 in March 2018 was about €20500. Twas a bargain when he bought it, and still a bargain now.

mouthful

75 k km service today- battery 100%

Video of underside of car at this link https://app.quik.auto/j/f0ff7947

All looking great

ELM327

I hate to break it to you but your battery is not at 100% after 75k km. Li Ion doesnt work like that.

They've either hidden excess top capacity and release it slowly to match initial deg, or the calculation is wrong.
You should have 2-7% deg by now

Mickeroo

Did someone mention on here recently that it's possible to precondition the car without charging it? It doesn't seem like that's actually the case, or if it is it's not very clear from the menus how you go about doing it.

ELM327

Mickeroo wrote: »

Did someone mention on here recently that it's possible to precondition the car without charging it? It doesn't seem like that's actually the case, or if it is it's not very clear from the menus how you go about doing it.

Without charging, yes
Without plugging in, no


If you set the charge timer to start at 630pm and end at say 7pm, but you get home at 730pm and leave the car plugged in overnight, it won't charge, but then set the climate timer to depart at 730 it will preheat the car.

Mickeroo

ELM327 wrote: »

Without charging, yes
Without plugging in, no


If you set the charge timer to start at 630pm and end at say 7pm, but you get home at 730pm and leave the car plugged in overnight, it won't charge, but then set the climate timer to depart at 730 it will preheat the car.

Yeah I know you have to be plugged in alright. I don't really follow what you're saying there in relation to the different menus. When you say charge timer do you mean the off peak hours or the departure time in the charging/climate menu?

I had thoughtthe check boxes for each day were to enable charging on a particular day so I set climate to on, depart time of 8am and only ticked tuesday and thursday. I had expected this to precondition the car every morning for 8 but only charge on tuesday and thursday morning but the check boxes next to the days seem to indicate the days you want the car preconditioned going by this morning as the car had charged but not preconditioned.

ELM327

Mickeroo wrote: »

Yeah I know you have to be plugged in alright. I don't really follow what you're saying there in relation to the different menus. When you say charge timer do you mean the off peak hours or the departure time in the charging/climate menu?

I had thoughtthe check boxes for each day were to enable charging on a particular day so I set climate to on, depart time of 8am and only ticked tuesday and thursday. I had expected this to precondition the car every morning for 8 but only charge on tuesday and thursday morning but the check boxes next to the days seem to indicate the days you want the car preconditioned going by this morning as the car had charged but not preconditioned.

It's a hack
The car is not designed to run the climate timer without being plugged in, and any of the following a) waiting to charge on a timer, b) charging or c) completed charging
Therefore if you plug in but set the charge timer (off peak timer) to a time slot you know you won't be plugged in. Therefore it won't charge when you do plug in, but will still run the climate control on the climate timer (and use the mains power to do so, assuming you have a 32a supply - at 16a it uses some battery in addition to 16a from mains, the heater is 6kW)

Mickeroo

Ah right, so it's not officially able to do it, you just have to trick it. I'll have a faff with it later on and see. Thanks for that.

zg3409

zg3409 wrote: »

Not mine, but I said I would put it here for those looking:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2017-hyundai-ioniq-premium-electric/23103645

20,800 for 171 in Dublin. 21,000 miles so may be UK import.

Same car only 20,500 on Facebook today.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1398421950294098 The 300 price drop would easily pay for a black front bumper re-wrap, but not a full all over wrap to your favourite bright radioactive green

jusmeig

mouthful wrote: »

75 k km service today- battery 100%

Video of underside of car at this link https://app.quik.auto/j/f0ff7947

All looking great

Your service centre makes videos!? That's freaking awesome.

irishgrover

jusmeig wrote: »

Your service centre makes videos!? That's freaking awesome.

Hyundai Limerick are doing same

fricatus

irishgrover wrote: »

Hyundai Limerick are doing same

Yeah, Lyng’s In Kilkenny likewise.

mouthful

ELM327 wrote: »

I hate to break it to you but your battery is not at 100% after 75k km. Li Ion doesnt work like that.

They've either hidden excess top capacity and release it slowly to match initial deg, or the calculation is wrong.
You should have 2-7% deg by now

The only measurable element of the battery is the usable part- just like a Tesla, Hyundai do not allow the entirety of the battery to be measured- so my comment pertains only to the usable element which remains at 28kw hour.
In this instance we are both correct!

mouthful

jusmeig wrote: »

Your service centre makes videos!? That's freaking awesome.

Divers Hyundai in Letterkenny- ask for Daniel he is great

ELM327

mouthful wrote: »

The only measurable element of the battery is the usable part- just like a Tesla, Hyundai do not allow the entirety of the battery to be measured- so my comment pertains only to the usable element which remains at 28kw hour.
In this instance we are both correct!

Tesla do (indirectly) by visible tesla app.


You may still have 28kWh available, in mine at 50k km when I sold it it still had 28kWh available.


However that is achieved in my opinion by drip feeding a hidden reserve to mask degradation for the first owner. So it is not, and cannot, be 0 actual degradation. Pretty nefarious, and we all slated Nissan for their dodgy tricks

slave1

What about those Tesla 60 owners with a (unknown to them) 75 battery, their health status will be quite good for a significant period of time