Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

BigAl81

Bif wrote:

Against what?

The new Ioniq

Bif

BigAl81 wrote: »

The new Ioniq

Thanks.

unkel

ELM327 wrote: »

People should tell the dealer why they have no interest (the crappy charge curve speed)

I did. Told him I was happy with my Ioniq and that the new car would not be an upgrade to me as the rare time I do need a lot of range, the new model would charge a lot slower. The old model can charge at up to 70kW, the new one just 45kW and tapers much earlier too. 20 minutes for a fast charge is perfectly acceptable with the family on board. 60 minutes is not.

rgunning

paulers06 wrote: »

My local dealer is offering 17k trade in on my 171. Not a great deal!

I was offered 17k as well by a dealer selling one for 23 k. I didn't even bother answering when he tried to ring back.

Kramer

unkel wrote: »

Told him........new model would charge a lot slower.

Quick calculation says the new Ioniq wouldn't be any slower on a Limerick to Belfast trip (350km approx, charging at Ecars or Ionity) over the old Ioniq at Ionity (faster charging).
Starting out at 100% SOC, stopping at 10% SOC & topping up the necessary kWhs needed to complete the journey.
That's hypothetical/best case scenario with Ionity exactly where needed etc.

New Ioniq would also be quicker (& cheaper) for any 220km to 300km journeys as, starting out at 100% SOC (cheap night rate, home charging) wouldn't require any stops for costly public charging.

It's not great that they've dropped the charging speed but it's disingenuous to say it's a total downgrade on the old model. Better interior, leather seats, better screen, app support, more range, liquid cooled battery pack etc.

It's the price that has killed it - €48k pre grant/rebate is madness :eek:.

Kramer

Lots of hate for the new Ioniq here tonight .

unkel wrote: »

20 minutes for a fast charge is perfectly acceptable with the family on board. 60 minutes is not.

Again, best case scenario, the old Ioniq can take on board 21.5kWhs in 20 minutes at Ionity.
The new Ioniq would take 32 minutes at slower, cheaper, more ubiquitous Ecars fast chargers.

Hardly a deal breaker on, as you yourself say, the rare occasions you travel beyond the range of your old Ioniq. Some are prepared to drive slower, use heat sparingly & hypermile when necessary with a shorter range EV & a few minutes extra at a fast charger now & then, on 250km+ journeys, shouldn't be a big deal.

But €38k OTR - nope, never, not gonna happen .

unkel

If the cost to change was say €6k-€7k I might consider it

But not for €20k, that's absurd

this.lad

Have any of you had the 'Check electric vehicle system' warning light?

Mine came on today.

Black_Knight

this.lad wrote: »

Have any of you had the 'Check electric vehicle system' warning light?

Mine came on today.

Have you the auxiliary battery saver option enabled? (Listed under "other features" if I remember correctly)
What age is the car? Many miles? Possibly a low 12v battery from what I read online (check its voltage with a multimeter if you can).

this.lad

Black_Knight wrote: »

Have you the auxiliary battery saver option enabled? (Listed under "other features" if I remember correctly)
What age is the car? Many miles? Possibly a low 12v battery from what I read online (check its voltage with a multimeter if you can).

10k Kms, only have it since July, new. The batteries are surely better than 5 months!

unkel

The 12V battery is not the problem, even though it has quite a low capacity. The software has flaws in it, it doesn't check the 12V battery often enough, it doesn't top it up from the HV often enough or high enough and it lets it go down too low.

Read the last few pages of this thread for more info

Would normally wear a battery out prematurely, could even kill a battery within months, particularly if there is more strain on the battery like with cold weather. On a 5 month old car, I would demand the dealer to replace it for free. Not so much on a nearly 3 year old car like my own.

Black_Knight

this.lad wrote: »

10k Kms, only have it since July, new. The batteries are surely better than 5 months!

And Have you the auxiliary battery saver option enabled?

Soarer

Black_Knight wrote: »

And Have you the auxiliary battery saver option enabled?

Surely that being enabled should be the default option?

this.lad

Yeah the aux saver is on. It came on again today. I'll ring the dealer in the morning, get them to look at it

Fiery mutant

Don’t want to derail the thread, but has anyone gone for the 7kw home chargepoint. I just have the standard 3.3kw, and am thinking of upgrading, just wondering what some of the better options might be, and who might have experience of them.

krissovo

Fiery mutant wrote: »

Don’t want to derail the thread, but has anyone gone for the 7kw home chargepoint. I just have the standard 3.3kw, and am thinking of upgrading, just wondering what some of the better options might be, and who might have experience of them.

Some chargers can be upgraded with a small update of a flick of a micro switch, it would be worth it to check yours.

There are a lot debates on which charger, if you are a simple user and just want 7kw then anything reliable will do. I use a wallbox, its small and very easy to use and setup with the app.

Black_Knight

Fiery mutant wrote: »

Don’t want to derail the thread, but has anyone gone for the 7kw home chargepoint. I just have the standard 3.3kw, and am thinking of upgrading, just wondering what some of the better options might be, and who might have experience of them.

There's a home charger thread. You'll get some great help there. I went simple and low tech myself (no shower, no PV) and got a rolec wallpod. Nothing fancy, but the price was right

Petetheroadie

Strange one. I got a Zappi V2 installed on Fri. Installed it fine, plugged it into the car and everything worked well.

Wanted to test the timed charging on the car, so set departure time to 8am, with 22°c climate.

Checked the car this morning and it didn't charge. Tried turning off the timed charge and climate settings and set it to charge immediately.

Car won't charge now??

Confused...

Anyone ran into this before? Any advice?

It's not clear how I can reset the timed charge settings...

Mickeroo

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Strange one. I got a Zappi V2 installed on Fri. Installed it fine, plugged it into the car and everything worked well.

Wanted to test the timed charging on the car, so set departure time to 8am, with 22°c climate.

Checked the car this morning and it didn't charge. Tried turning off the timed charge and climate settings and set it to charge immediately.

Car won't charge now??

Confused...

Anyone ran into this before? Any advice?

It's not clear how I can reset the timed charge settings...

What mode is the Zappi set to? Eco, Eco+ or the other one? Can't remember the name.

Silent Running

Mickeroo wrote: »

What mode is the Zappi set to? Eco, Eco+ or the other one? Can't remember the name.

Fast.

Petetheroadie

Yep, Zappi is set to fast.

Just took a spin down to the local ESB slow charger and plugged in there. It's not charging here either :-(

Mickeroo

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Yep, Zappi is set to fast.

Just took a spin down to the local ESB slow charger and plugged in there. It's not charging here either :-(

Ok Zappi on fast is what you want alright.

Do you have night rate hours set on the car and is the "only charge during these hours" box checked? Is the car set to "Charge Now" in the scheduling menu?

Silent Running

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Yep, Zappi is set to fast.

Just took a spin down to the local ESB slow charger and plugged in there. It's not charging here either :-(

What about the button down by the right of the steering wheel? I can't remember what it says on the button, but it temporarily cancels all timer settings and allows the car to charge.

Petetheroadie

Mickeroo wrote: »

Ok Zappi on fast is what you want alright.

Do you have night rate hours set on the car and is the "only charge during these hours" box checked? Is the car set to "Charge Now" in the scheduling menu?

I have unchecked the tickbox on the charging and climate settings after ensuring that the off peak hours are deactivated for both weekday and weekend.

Petetheroadie

Silent Running wrote: »

What about the button down by the right of the steering wheel? I can't remember what it says on the button, but it temporarily cancels all timer settings and allows the car to charge.

Yep, I pressed that with the car plugged in and it's not doing anything.

Petetheroadie

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Yep, I pressed that with the car plugged in and it's not doing anything.

Added pic

this.lad

Fiery mutant wrote: »

Don’t want to derail the thread, but has anyone gone for the 7kw home chargepoint. I just have the standard 3.3kw, and am thinking of upgrading, just wondering what some of the better options might be, and who might have experience of them.

I have both the ABB one that came from ESB and the zappi v1.

I changed the original to 32A so the cars have a shorter charge time.

this.lad

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Added pic

That happened our 172 back in march. It was with the main dealer for 2 weeks :-\ before it was sorted.

They weren't terribly clear on what the actual issue was.

Petetheroadie

this.lad wrote: »

That happened our 172 back in march. It was with the main dealer for 2 weeks :-\ before it was sorted.

They weren't terribly clear on what the actual issue was.

Crap. Ok.

Petetheroadie

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Crap. Ok.

Was it covered under warranty or did they charge you?

this.lad

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Was it covered under warranty or did they charge you?

Warranty. Got a car from them too but i really noticed that I was buying petrol!

First they didn't know what it was. Then they did. Then it was ready, then it wasn't. Possibly more the garage than hyundai.

Anyway, all okay with that one now. Have the warning on in Ioniq no 2 now so will being it back to where i bought it.

Petetheroadie

this.lad wrote: »

Warranty. Got a car from them too but i really noticed that I was buying petrol!

First they didn't know what it was. Then they did. Then it was ready, then it wasn't. Possibly more the garage than hyundai.

Anyway, all okay with that one now. Have the warning on in Ioniq no 2 now so will being it back to where i bought it.

Sounds like fun, not :-(

I posted on the UK Ioniq forum and someone there asked if the cable was locking in (it wasn't) and suggested pulling the emergency release in the boot. Tried that, plugged the charger again and heard the clunk as the cable locked in and the car is now charging!

So so you have 2 Ioniqs or did the 2nd one replace the first one?

Mickeroo

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Sounds like fun, not :-(

I posted on the UK Ioniq forum and someone there asked if the cable was locking in (it wasn't) and suggested pulling the emergency release in the boot. Tried that, plugged the charger again and heard the clunk as the cable locked in and the car is now charging!

So so you have 2 Ioniqs or did the 2nd one replace the first one?

What year is you car? There was a recall for a fix on the actuator in the charge port last year if I recall correctly.

Petetheroadie

Mickeroo wrote: »

What year is you car? There was a recall for a fix on the actuator in the charge port last year if I recall correctly.

It's 191

Black_Knight

Mickeroo wrote: »

What year is you car? There was a recall for a fix on the actuator in the charge port last year if I recall correctly.

50. Petetheroadie - Ioniq BEV - Pearl Iron Grey - 191MH

Edit: Pete beat me

Mickeroo

That rules that out then.

Petetheroadie

Mickeroo wrote: »

That rules that out then.

Not necessarily, it could still be a faulty actuator. Will see what the dealer says.

Mickeroo

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Not necessarily, it could still be a faulty actuator. Will see what the dealer says.

Yeah of course, I just mean the recall wouldn't apply to the car. Still should be replaced under warranty if that's the problem I'm sure.

this.lad

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Sounds like fun, not :-(

I posted on the UK Ioniq forum and someone there asked if the cable was locking in (it wasn't) and suggested pulling the emergency release in the boot. Tried that, plugged the charger again and heard the clunk as the cable locked in and the car is now charging!

So so you have 2 Ioniqs or did the 2nd one replace the first one?

2 on the go

unkel

Fiery mutant wrote: »

Don’t want to derail the thread, but has anyone gone for the 7kw home chargepoint. I just have the standard 3.3kw, and am thinking of upgrading, just wondering what some of the better options might be, and who might have experience of them.

The ABL charger that was free?

I have that one too, I upgraded it to 7.2kW myself 2.5 years ago and it has worked flawlessly since.

You can only do this though if the cable used for your install is at least 6mm2, and that is not what the installer at the time installed for you, so an electrician has to replace the cable and also replace the RCBO in your consumer unit. I would expect that to cost a standard call out charge + about €60 in materials. Upgrading the charger is fairly easy DIY, you buy a €5 connector, to connect it to your laptop and you then change a couple of lines of code. We have threads about it here.

Of course if you just replace the one you have with a new 7.2kW charger, the above work of replacing the cable and RCBO will have to be done too!

Efitz2019

Have the car three weeks today. Great car. Have done a mixture of driving including a 350km journey. Had a 2017 Vw golf highline 1.4tsi before getting the Ioniq. The only things I miss from the golf are the seats they were full leather sports style seats. The other is a rear view wiper. With all this bad weather it would have come in handy . Anyone on here come up with a solution to keeping it some what clear. I might pick up a bottle of rain x from Halfords and see if that helps. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

OffalyMedic

New to night rate electricity and wondering what's the best option to use, set times on car (ioniq) or on the Zappi? If Zappi can you use timer on fast mode or only boost mode?

OffalyMedic

New to night rate electricity and wondering what's the best option to use, set times on car (ioniq) or on the Zappi? If Zappi can you use timer on fast mode or only boost mode?

unkel

If you want to preheat the car, you will need to set up the timer for that in the car. So you might as well set charging times on car too.

Petetheroadie

unkel wrote: »

If you want to preheat the car, you will need to set up the timer for that in the car. So you might as well set charging times on car too.

Yeah, I decided to just use the car's charging scheduling and heater for handiness.

zg3409

OffalyMedic wrote: »

New to night rate electricity and wondering what's the best option to use, set times on car (ioniq) or on the Zappi? If Zappi can you use timer on fast mode or only boost mode?

If you have the myenergi hub linked to the Zappi, and use the Zappi as a timer then you can start and stop charging from anywhere in the world.

Its a bit messy to set up, and there are not many use cases where this is beneficial, but you can check on the app the car is charging, and give it a boost from inside the house if for example you plan on an evening trip and you would like to fill up the battery on non night rate energy. You can also set different times for every day of the week, for example I tend to not fill to 100% Friday night, and not charge at all on Saturday nights, as I prefer battery not kept at 100% for long periods so I have a very short time set for Friday night.

You use the boost timer on the Zappi and use eco++ mode so it does not charge car until overnight. I tested mine set to say 8pm on a Saturday night to make sure it worked OK before I trusted it would work for my daily commute. No fun walking out to car with low battery.

I also set an alarm on my phone for 9pm daily to remind me to check car plugged in, as I often forget if I pop out to the shops in the evening. I have forgot to plug in 4 times in 12 months. The Nissan leaf app can be set to warn the driver its not plugged in at home as far as I know

k123456

Not a showstopper, but curious ;

When I press the recirculate button on the Ioniq heating system, it will routinely switch itself off

Any ideas why this would happen

zg3409

k123456 wrote: »

Not a showstopper, but curious ;

When I press the recirculate button on the Ioniq heating system, it will routinely switch itself off

Any ideas why this would happen

It is to ensure fresh air enters the car and to reduce the windows fogging up. The rear window heater also turns off after a while to save energy

Fiesta

I have an Ioniq coming in January...

I am buying a new phone, and now's the time to change the phone for one with wireless charging.

I am considering a Xiaomi Mi 9, https://www.honorbuy.com/1636-xiaomi-mi-9-6gb-128gb-official-global-version-smartphone-black.html

It's 75mm wide, will it fit in the charging tray?

Mickeroo

Fiesta wrote: »

I have an Ioniq coming in January...

I am buying a new phone, and now's the time to change the phone for one with wireless charging.

I am considering a Xiaomi Mi 9, https://www.honorbuy.com/1636-xiaomi-mi-9-6gb-128gb-official-global-version-smartphone-black.html

It's 75mm wide, will it fit in the charging tray?

Have the same phone and it fits perfectly.