Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

irishgrover

Hi all,
I need your assistance. Am at charger in Balindine, car will not take charge, tried AC, DC and granny, at multiple locations. Am getting check electric vehical system error and 3 flashing blue lights.
AA on the way. Will be requesting that they disconnect the 12 v battery for reset. Any other ideas?

Black_Knight

irishgrover wrote: »

Hi all,
I need your assistance. Am at charger in Balindine, car will not take charge, tried AC, DC and granny, at multiple locations. Am getting check electric vehical system error and 3 flashing blue lights.
AA on the way. Will be requesting that they disconnect the 12 v battery for reset. Any other ideas?

Was going to say the same. Disconnect the 12v.

unkel

AA will be able to check battery. I'd say it's faulty / too low. I'd replaced it tomorrow

irishgrover

unkel wrote: »

AA will be able to check battery. I'd say it's faulty / too low. I'd replaced it tomorrow

Its gone on the back of the tow truck. Heading home now (wife picked me up). Will be dropped to Hyundai Castlebar on Monday. Suspect a new 12v will sort it out....

unkel

Is the drop to Hyundai free of charge? If not, I'd just get a new battery and stick it in myself. Cheap and easy job, the 12V being let too low is a known software bug in Ioniq and a low / bad 12V can cause all sorts of nasty problems (like the one you had). How old is the car?

My own battery was far too low to be kept healthy the few times I checked it. Sold the car when it was just under 3 years old, if I kept it I would probably have changed it sooner rather than later.

irishgrover

unkel wrote: »

Is the drop to Hyundai free of charge? If not, I'd just get a new battery and stick it in myself. Cheap and easy job, the 12V being let too low is a known software bug in Ioniq and a low / bad 12V can cause all sorts of nasty problems (like the one you had). How old is the car?

My own battery was far too low to be kept healthy the few times I checked it. Sold the car when it was just under 3 years old, if I kept it I would probably have changed it sooner rather than later.

Its a 181, I've put 80k on it. Towing is free (after some discussions). First problem I've had, so can't complain

unkel

Give out stink that a battery should last more than 2 years (which it should) and who knows they might replace it FOC

If not, no big deal, about €50-€60 for a new one and just a few minutes to fit it. I'll probably replace any battery in any of my cars out of warranty with LiFePo4 going forward. Costs a good bit more, but can much better take a drop well below 12V. And when you sell the car, take it out and bring it to your next car

jprboy

unkel wrote: »

Is the drop to Hyundai free of charge? If not, I'd just get a new battery and stick it in myself. Cheap and easy job, the 12V being let too low is a known software bug in Ioniq and a low / bad 12V can cause all sorts of nasty problems (like the one you had). How old is the car?

My own battery was far too low to be kept healthy the few times I checked it. Sold the car when it was just under 3 years old, if I kept it I would probably have changed it sooner rather than later.

I see.....

So, would you recommend that the new owner replace it?

Asking for a friend

Black_Knight

jprboy wrote: »

I see.....

So, would you recommend that the new owner replace it?

Asking for a friend

I'd at least educate them around these issues and how a 12v replacement can remedy them. Mines a 171 too and aside from a few times the car has forgotten my charging schedule last year, it's not had any issues.

obi604

unkel wrote: »

Yeah! The system we have perfected worldwide over the last 100 years!

Instead here in Ireland we got this. Oops can't charge Ioniq :rolleyes:



I can and I have charged in that position BTW, but you need 3 free parking spaces beside the left EV charge parking space to do so.

I don’t get you here. If you reverse in, is it not relatively easy.

Silent Running

obi604 wrote: »

I don’t get you here. If you reverse in, is it not relatively easy.

No, the cable won't reach the charge port on the passenger side. I've been a victim of this many times in the Ioniq. The cable is just too short.

unkel

jprboy wrote: »

I see.....

So, would you recommend that the new owner replace it?

Asking for a friend

That is a good question. Personally I might have just left it until the first sign of any electrical issue / trouble. But that would make one feel like a fool if it got you stuck somewhere knowing this might happen (even though you can get a free tow) and you could have prevented it for the sake of fifty quid (this is of course no dig at irishgrover, just meant if that happened to me, with me knowing that the battery might have issues)

OTOH any long trip the new owner did - even the trip back home from my house to another part of the country - and the alternator dc-dc converter (providing a 14.5V boost to the battery for hours on end) might have pretty much revived it

I guess it depends on the new owner's attitude to risk. Battery might well last another few years. Or you might have an issue tomorrow.

eagerv

If the leaf wasn't there I presume there would be no problem reversing in.


In Waterford at Ballybrickan there is a type 2 with similar angled parking; easy to drive in but I had to reverse in which could be a problem, as it's in the middle of a sort of large roundabout which is normally very busy with traffic.

fricatus

eagerv wrote: »

In Waterford at Ballybrickan there is a type 2 with similar angled parking; easy to drive in but I had to reverse in which could be a problem, as it's in the middle of a sort of large roundabout which is normally very busy with traffic.

That’s a really awkward spot. It’s on a bend on a one way street, but with two side roads in close proximity too. A lot of work to get the Ioniq in backwards against the angle!

eagerv

fricatus wrote: »

That’s a really awkward spot. It’s on a bend on a one way street, but with two side roads in close proximity too. A lot of work to get the Ioniq in backwards against the angle!

You can just barely make the charge point going in forward on the right bay, but you really need someone with you to get out and watch in front. With the standard type 2 cable there needs to be about an inch between you and the kerb which is just at a nice height to damage your front skirt.
They certainly didn't make it easy..:)

Kramer

I think the GOM is limited to always show under 300km. It'll still show 290km or 294km once underway as the SOC drops so could show 294km remaining at 96% but won't apparently, then show 300km+ when fully charged.

Hyundai never bargained on Mrs. Kramer's hypermiling skills & quiet roads due to the virus .

eagerv

Kramer wrote: »

I think the GOM is limited to always show under 300km. It'll still show 290km or 294km once underway as the SOC drops so could show 294km remaining at 96% but won't apparently, then show 300km+ when fully charged.

Hyundai never bargained on Mrs. Kramer's hypermiling skills & quiet roads due to the virus .

I am married to a very skillful lady as well:D
She claims 10kWh/100km is possible with her rural driving at the moment.
Just to agree with her (Beat her) I managed an indicated 9.1kWh on a rural run this morning over 49km, max speed limit 80kmh. I did try a little bit....:)

ELM327

Kramer wrote: »

I think the GOM is limited to always show under 300km. It'll still show 290km or 294km once underway as the SOC drops so could show 294km remaining at 96% but won't apparently, then show 300km+ when fully charged.

Hyundai never bargained on Mrs. Kramer's hypermiling skills & quiet roads due to the virus .

That shows you have 26.97kWh of usable energy, so ~1kWh of deg from new.


(93 wh/km * 290) = 26.97kWh

liamog

100% on the Ioniq is 95% off the battery. His state of health is currently 26.97/26.66 so 101.1%.

ELM327

liamog wrote: »

100% on the Ioniq is 95% off the battery. His state of health is currently 26.97/26.66 so 101.1%.

So what there was only 27kWh available from new?
I seem to remember getting almost 27.5kWh out of the pack before.

eagerv

What's the secret of the high GOM figures Kramer?
I presume the figure reflects your past driving style.


Ours is slowly creeping up, showed 248km this morning full. In the cooler weather was around 220km. Haven't filled it much since getting car, 80% has been doing us nicely.
While some days we get great economy, other days not so great, but rarely more than 13kWh/100km. Our son is also now driving the car under supervision but he only believes in Sport mode and the accelerator pedal is an on/off switch!

Black_Knight

ELM327 wrote: »

That shows you have 26.97kWh of usable energy, so ~1kWh of deg from new.


(93 wh/km * 290) = 26.97kWh

Oh the GOM and efficiency meter are not related.
I finally charged my car to 100% the other night. GOM showed 226km (highest i've ever seen it on mine) yet my efficiency meter said 14.1kW/100km. Do I have a 31.8kWh battery? :P

Black_Knight

In unrelated news, service 4 is booked. €140 i've been quoted. Wonder how they'll change the pollen filter this time? :rolleyes:

zg3409

irishgrover wrote: »

Hi all,
I need your assistance. Am at charger in Balindine, car will not take charge, tried AC, DC and granny, at multiple locations. Am getting check electric vehical system error and 3 flashing blue lights.
AA on the way. Will be requesting that they disconnect the 12 v battery for reset. Any other ideas?

12v battery only has 2 years warranty. I suggest jump it and if it works then, pay for a new battery yourself. If it is the 12v battery the dealer will look for an arm and a leg and probably won't have the right one in stock. You could be up and running today if you avoid dealer. Bring old battery into any motor factors and ask for a new one.

Kramer

ELM327 wrote: »

That shows you have 26.97kWh of usable energy, so ~1kWh of deg from new.

No it doesn't.

That 9.3 consumption figure was after a reset not long before charging it. It is not a historical figure.

I could reset it, coast down a hill for a few kms & it'd show 6kWh/100km. Wouldn't mean I've a 50kWh battery though .

Kramer

Black_Knight wrote: »

In unrelated news, service 4 is booked. €140 i've been quoted. Wonder how they'll change the pollen filter this time? :rolleyes:

That's crazy! Is the brake fluid change included possibly?

ELM327

Black_Knight wrote: »

Oh the GOM and efficiency meter are not related.
I finally charged my car to 100% the other night. GOM showed 226km (highest i've ever seen it on mine) yet my efficiency meter said 14.1kW/100km. Do I have a 31.8kWh battery? :P

Oh. I thought they were related like in other cars.


Never mind, carry on in that case

Fishy1

Black_Knight wrote: »

In unrelated news, service 4 is booked. €140 i've been quoted. Wonder how they'll change the pollen filter this time? :rolleyes:

Does anyone have personal experience of a Hyundai garage in the South East that actually knows what they’re talking about when it comes to servicing an Ioniq?
I had a very poor experience last year - dealer couldn’t even do updates for firmware or maps. Promised they’d get back to me about it & never did. I really don’t want to line their pockets again this year (181 Ioniq).

fricatus

Fishy1 wrote: »

Does anyone have personal experience of a Hyundai garage in the South East that actually knows what they’re talking about when it comes to servicing an Ioniq?
I had a very poor experience last year - dealer couldn’t even do updates for firmware or maps. Promised they’d get back to me about it & never did. I really don’t want to line their pockets again this year (181 Ioniq).

I've found Lyng's in KK to be pretty good. They were certainly capable of updating the firmware and maps, although I had to be quite clear that that was what I wanted. It doesn't come naturally to a lot of people in the legacy car industry, and let's face it, most Hyundai garages just want to get you into a daysul Tucson.

adunis

No, but I can happily testify that the crowd who's name starts with a K are grade a Wa@#ers

Silent Running

Fishy1 wrote: »

Does anyone have personal experience of a Hyundai garage in the South East that actually knows what they’re talking about when it comes to servicing an Ioniq?
I had a very poor experience last year - dealer couldn’t even do updates for firmware or maps. Promised they’d get back to me about it & never did. I really don’t want to line their pockets again this year (181 Ioniq).

I had my Ioniq serviced in Boland's of Wexford. Would not recommend. They couldn't update the software, I just did it myself after the service. My dash cam was running throughout. The most technical thing they did was top off the washer fluid.

Black_Knight

Kramer wrote: »

That's crazy! Is the brake fluid change included possibly?

Didn't say. I'll ask when I drop it off. I want the warranty, so I'll have to pony up. Same crowd wouldn't entertain the worn door rubber on my car after just 2 years. Never known a door rubber to be a bi-annual serviceable part.

eagerv

Silent Running wrote: »

I had my Ioniq serviced in Boland's of Wexford. Would not recommend. They couldn't update the software, I just did it myself after the service. My dash cam was running throughout. The most technical thing they did was top off the washer fluid.

My wife wasted half a day there last week. When we bought car there in Spring the salesman Brian was very helpful and knew his stuff fairly well. Arranged with him for the few warranty bits and updates to be done when we were able to get to garage again. (We live about 40km away)

Booked in last week (Unfortunately Brian no longer there). Main thing was to fit emergency release in left of boot for fuel door (No sign of it). Not cable release which is there under boot floor as should be.
They tried to tell my wife that this door release was there and eventually on her request they phoned me. Had already explained all this clearly to them previously.

Eventually they admitted we were correct and said they would fit one but would have to take photos and get one from Hyundai. What a waste of time. Also they said that our updates were the latest (2018). When we said others had 2019 updates they said again they would have to check with Hyundai.
At least they sorted a small rattle from wheel which was just a stone.

Black_Knight

Kramer wrote: »

That's crazy! Is the brake fluid change included possibly?

Brake fluid included, pollen filter too. Aside from that it's just mechanical checks and diagnostics. I'll get them to update the software/firmware/maps while it's in too. All in all it should take maybe 1-2 hours. I'll expect it to take all day.

A well earned €140, just so I can keep my warranty. :rolleyes:

unkel

Out of interest did you ring a few Hyundai dealers for a quote?

Black_Knight

unkel wrote: »

Out of interest did you ring a few Hyundai dealers for a quote?

Nope. Just the 1. The 2 dealers local to me are run by the same crowd. Outside of them you're talking about a 100km+ of a drive to get to another service center.

unkel

Personally I never paid the Hyundai dealer a cent for servicing, I just asked them nicely to do it for free

But I guess we are lucky here in Dublin too with a handful of dealers in the area, all independent of each other

bootser

Hi All, I only have my Ioniq a couple of weeks but I see by the windscreen sticker that its due a VHC at 130000Kms which will be in a couple more weeks! For a VHC I'm just expecting to have the car looked at for warranty purpose, is this right?(I'll be using Navan Hyundai if anyone is familiar with them?) TIA

unkel

Ioniq electric needs a service every 15k km or 1 year, which ever comes first. Odd services (first service, third service, etc.) are just an inspection and even services (second service, fourth service, etc.) are inspection + brake fluid + cabin filter

shanemkelly

unkel wrote: »

Ioniq electric needs a service every 15k km or 1 year, which ever comes first. Odd services (first service, third service, etc.) are just an inspection and even services (second service, fourth service, etc.) are inspection + brake fluid + cabin filter

needs???

unkel

"Needs" just for you to keep your Hyundai warranty.

Black_Knight

bootser wrote: »

Hi All, I only have my Ioniq a couple of weeks but I see by the windscreen sticker that its due a VHC at 130000Kms which will be in a couple more weeks! For a VHC I'm just expecting to have the car looked at for warranty purpose, is this right?(I'll be using Navan Hyundai if anyone is familiar with them?) TIA

VHC is likely just part of the required services as unkel says every 15k km. Not sure if all Ioniqs are like that, or are Hybrids/PHEV different. We're assuming you have a full electric one here.

bootser

Black_Knight wrote:

VHC is likely just part of the required services as unkel says every 15k km. Not sure if all Ioniqs are like that, or are Hybrids/PHEV different. We're assuming you have a full electric one here.

Yep, full electric!

Kramer

Tidied it up a little on Sunday & a quick post to let anyone know, who might miss out on the for sale sticky, that it's available & near enough Dublin for anyone interested. I guess 20 minutes from the M50?

Details updated in the original thread here:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=113752908&postcount=779

Mrs. Kramer is actually missing it already :eek:.

baldshin

Can anyone confirm the latest maps and software version? Took my replacement Ioniq for the first service under my ownership and when booking it requested they update the maps, software and fix the charging door that won't open unless you wedge something in it. Pretty sure they've not done the maps or software, also said they had made an adjustment to fix the charging door (they didn't), and didn't even give the car a wipe over! While a €95 seems cheap, it doesn't if they haven't done anything! I had to go back to them with the service book as they hadn't even stamped that!

Kramer

baldshin wrote: »

didn't even give the car a wipe over! While a €95 seems cheap, it doesn't if they haven't done anything!

Did they top up the washer fluid though? .

Dealerships now have prominent "dashcam" policies in their service areas, GDPR for employees etc. mean strictly no recordings.
Handy, that :cool:.

I can't check our Ioniq at present for map details though.

eagerv

baldshin wrote: »

Can anyone confirm the latest maps and software version? Took my replacement Ioniq for the first service under my ownership and when booking it requested they update the maps, software and fix the charging door that won't open unless you wedge something in it. Pretty sure they've not done the maps or software, also said they had made an adjustment to fix the charging door (they didn't), and didn't even give the car a wipe over! While a €95 seems cheap, it doesn't if they haven't done anything! I had to go back to them with the service book as they hadn't even stamped that!

I am at work at moment and dont have car with me. If you check back this thread around end Feb early march when we bought our car someone kindly posted latest updates. I posted pic of our screen. On phone now si not easy to check...

baldshin

Kramer wrote: »

Did they top up the washer fluid though? .

Dealerships now have prominent "dashcam" policies in their service areas, GDPR for employees etc. mean strictly no recordings.
Handy, that :cool:.

I can't check our Ioniq at present for map details though.

WELL!.....This is how little attention was paid to the car....my dashcam was on the entire time! They took it for a 6km spin to their main dealer and back, opened the bonnet for about 90 seconds, and that was that it seems, or at least that's all it captured.

Kramer

baldshin wrote: »

WELL!.....This is how little attention was paid to the car....my dashcam was on the entire time!

My dashcams enter parking mode when the car is switched off & timelapse record or record 30 second clips if movement or vibration is detected.
Similar to yourself, the stuff I've captured is disconcerting - bonnet up for seconds etc.

I actually just reviewed footage earlier from an encounter in a reputable main dealership earlier this week (not Hyundai) & I need a Zanax now .

I may have a picture of my last update - I'll dig through my gallery.

TOLLOT

Here’s my latest version . Updated when dealer reopened post Covid. Good maps update in particular imo.