Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

grogi

unkel wrote: »

I was going to post something smart like that, you funny man!

But if you do tend to run out (some people can't help themselves), you could always carry a tiny genny and a small can of petrol. Running it for half an hour with the granny cable might just get you were you need to be, but it's a bit of a silly thing to carry around I guess.

It is a DIY hybrid

unkel

DIY Rex

650Ginge

650Ginge wrote: »

Because you can move closer to work.

One of Mr Money Mustaches rules and he aint ever wrong, except about dogs, he is wrong about dogs.

You mean move closer to Dublin and pay over inflated house prices ? you must be joking !

punisher5112

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You mean move closer to Dublin and pay over inflated house prices ? you must be joking !

Try find a place. Sheds is all I see starting at 1400 or more. Houses next to my dads at 3 bed dumps rented out for 2,500 because they are near some metal thing on rails.

goz83

unkel wrote: »

I think pretty much all comprehensive policies have breakdown cover these days as standard? Mine have had for many years. Before that I was an AA member.

I was an AA member. Then their policy of putting women first turned me against them. If my car breaks down and a woman can call for help after me and get priority for no other reason than she is a woman....then I take my business elsewhere.

unkel

Woot? That's outrageous alright. When did that start?

isnottheword

unkel wrote: »

I think pretty much all comprehensive policies have breakdown cover these days as standard? Mine have had for many years. Before that I was an AA member.

See my thread on EV insurance quotes. 25plus.ie are the only one thus far that don't.

goz83 wrote:

I was an AA member. Then their policy of putting women first turned me against them. If my car breaks down and a woman can call for help after me and get priority for no other reason than she is a woman....then I take my business elsewhere.

I assume that's no longer the case given the introduction of risk equalisation (i.e. insurers have to quote same prices to both sexes)?

goz83

isnottheword wrote: »

I assume that's no longer the case given the introduction of risk equalisation (i.e. insurers have to quote same prices to both sexes)?

The price was the same. It was just that women were given priority.....incase they were broken down in some dark lane, surrounded by monsters. Unfair to men and insulting to women.

goz83

goz83 wrote: »

I was an AA member. Then their policy of putting women first turned me against them. If my car breaks down and a woman can call for help after me and get priority for no other reason than she is a woman....then I take my business elsewhere.

I thought it was funny in Germany when in a multi storey car park I saw car parking spaces marked "Women only" must take a pic next time I'm there.

punisher5112

punisher5112 wrote: »

Try find a place. Sheds is all I see starting at 1400 or more. Houses next to my dads at 3 bed dumps rented out for 2,500 because they are near some metal thing on rails.

Yeah it's a mad country !

No family should have to spend more than 150,000 for most of the sh1t holes available in this country. Terrace and semi Detached going for 250,000 + for a 3 bed with tiny rooms and hardly a garden at the rear and concert at the front and 6 foot concrete walls all around and no proper place for Children to play !

It's horrible what has been done to this Island. Joke of a country.

goz83

Deleted User wrote: »

I thought it was funny in Germany when in a multi storey car park I saw car parking spaces marked "Women only" must take a pic next time I'm there.

Extra wide? Drive straight in one side and out the other? Pay with Boots Loyalty Points? :pac:

I'll get my coat.

Mope

Right, have some time on my hands so I said I will sum up my experience in few sentences.

In one word - I am blown away. Like, don't get me wrong, I knew what I am buying after all videos, reviews and test drive, but actually owning the car is different story. Configuring stuff you like, using all the driving assistance and etc.

I actually like the fact that this car is somewhat planted on road, it is not like a boat floating around (like VW Passat 132 or Audi A4) - which I really like. Firm, but comfortable ride.

Adaptive cruise is a God sent thing! M50 in traffic hour is a peace of cake now. Just enable it, set to the speed you wish, adjust distance to the car (!) in front and that is it. I have to say it took good few times before I started to trust the system.

! Warning / Note / Attention !
Regarding Adaptive and Distance - when using any of these and especially distance be Logical about it. If speed increases do not leave it on short to medium. Be very mindful if road has bends (even M50 type of bends) as front sensor sometimes spots the car in other lane and starts accelerating to the set speed, then obviously starts braking when acquires car in your lane - this is somewhat dangerous and also very not good for fuel efficiency.

I also had a chance to experience how car brakes itself to avoid collision! Freaking amazing! Not that I wanted to test it, it just happened. I had speed set to 55 with Adaptive Cruise and i think distance level 2 (see Warning above) on Drumcondra rd towards City. There was a stretch of clear road so car accelerated and then at the next red light started to slowdown but it was way too slow to stop before hitting the car. (I had set collision avoidance to "Early" in the menu before leaving). The car Actually sensed that it will collide and applied emergency braking - awesome! Dash blinked red for a fraction of second and brakes were slammed.

Will do my first FCP at Square shopping center this lunch time (colleagues can't wait to see how the car is).

Any questions - just ask :]

ELM327

goz83 wrote: »

I was an AA member. Then their policy of putting women first turned me against them. If my car breaks down and a woman can call for help after me and get priority for no other reason than she is a woman....then I take my business elsewhere.

That's ridiculous.
As an AA member I am shocked at this rampant sexism and also that it is not communicated.

How do you know of this policy

unkel

Mope wrote: »

I actually like the fact that this car is somewhat planted on road, it is not like a boat floating around (like VW Passat 132 or Audi A4) - which I really like. Firm, but comfortable ride.

Yeah, exact same feeling here. Didn't strike me as such while on my test drive, but I've done a lot more motorway driving at speed and the car feels more like a large car another size up. Very stable and planted at speed (and I'm talking more than 100km/h here )

Got 11kWh/100km over the last day or so, nothing different, still driving fast, but a bit less fast motorway, just the M50 (up to about 120km/h). This really is more like a 250-300km range car (for mixed driving), for almost all of the year in the mild Irish climate, if you drive like an average person and stick to the limits

And I wouldn't trust any of the "safety" features such as LKAS, adaptive cruise and auto emergency braking. You can let them help you and they might prevent accidents, but I wouldn't trust them. We're not there yet. I'd say Tesla is several steps ahead compared to most other manufacturers' current rollout of autonomous driving features...

goz83

ELM327 wrote: »

That's ridiculous.
As an AA member I am shocked at this rampant sexism and also that it is not communicated.

How do you know of this policy

They used to advertise it. Also it was a huge point their shopping centre sales reps made. I don't see it advertised on their website anymore, but a google search showed up this => https://www.facebook.com/RAC/posts/10153230818781370

Had another look at their website. Seems they have swapped out Women for Members. Bottom of page. http://www.theaa.ie/aa/aa-membership/whats-covered.aspx

bk

Deleted User wrote: »

You mean move closer to Dublin and pay over inflated house prices ? you must be joking !

punisher5112 wrote: »

Try find a place. Sheds is all I see starting at 1400 or more. Houses next to my dads at 3 bed dumps rented out for 2,500 because they are near some metal thing on rails.

That is the problem isn't it, like many Irish people you want a 3 bedroom house, even within a city! That is the choice I'm on about.

Irish people have a massive mental block about living in apartments.

I made a different choice. I got a nice 2 bed apartment, just 30 minutes walk from my work and Dublin City Center and I love it.

Sure for the same money I could have gotten a 3 to 4 bedroom house way outside of the city, would have needed to buy a car and would have ended up spending all my time commuting.

Instead I save a large amount of money by not owning a car, have a very pleasant 30 minute walk home from work and get lots of extra time to spend with my family, while you guys commute long distances to your big houses!

With the money I save on not driving, I get to spend it on socialising and travel, 3 to 4 nights a week out in Dublin/Cork and with all the different places and events of Dublin right on my doorstep.

My colleagues who earn the same, but instead decided to buy the big house all look like zombies every day from all the commuting they do and they are always amazed by all the travel and socialising that I do and can't understand how I can afford it.

And yes before anyone says it, yes I have a kid. Still plenty of space in a two bedroom apartment for one to two kids. My apartment has lots of green space all around it for the kids to play in. Well over half the apartments in my building have kids and they all play together during the warmer days outside with one or two of the parents watching over them. There is a really good community spirit here.

So yes, it is a choice. We Irish continually make a dumb choice to want to live in 3 bed semi's even in a big city. This is why we have a housing crisis and why people are commuting insane distances.

What we should be doing is building high quality apartments, designed for families in mind, with green areas and play grounds below and close to public transport. A more European type mindset rather then the frankly insane US car culture mindset.

But don't kid yourself, it is definitely a choice.

Soarer

bk wrote: »

That is the problem isn't it, like many Irish people you want a 3 bedroom house, even within a city! That is the choice I'm on about.

Irish people have a massive mental block about living in apartments.

I made a different choice. I got a nice 2 bed apartment, just 30 minutes walk from my work and Dublin City Center and I love it.

Sure for the same money I could have gotten a 3 to 4 bedroom house way outside of the city, would have needed to buy a car and would have ended up spending all my time commuting.

Instead I save a large amount of money by not owning a car, have a very pleasant 30 minute walk home from work and get lots of extra time to spend with my family, while you guys commute long distances to your big houses!

With the money I save on not driving, I get to spend it on socialising and travel, 3 to 4 nights a week out in Dublin/Cork and with all the different places and events of Dublin right on my doorstep.

My colleagues who earn the same, but instead decided to buy the big house all look like zombies every day from all the commuting they do and they are always amazed by all the travel and socialising that I do and can't understand how I can afford it.

And yes before anyone says it, yes I have a kid. Still plenty of space in a two bedroom apartment for one to two kids. My apartment has lots of green space all around it for the kids to play in. Well over half the apartments in my building have kids and they all play together during the warmer days outside with one or two of the parents watching over them. There is a really good community spirit here.

So yes, it is a choice. We Irish continually make a dumb choice to want to live in 3 bed semi's even in a big city. This is why we have a housing crisis and why people are commuting insane distances.

What we should be doing is building high quality apartments, designed for families in mind, with green areas and play grounds below and close to public transport. A more European type mindset rather then the frankly insane US car culture mindset.

But don't kid yourself, it is definitely a choice.

Get out of here you hippy!

Shefwedfan

Mope wrote: »

Right, have some time on my hands so I said I will sum up my experience in few sentences.

In one word - I am blown away. Like, don't get me wrong, I knew what I am buying after all videos, reviews and test drive, but actually owning the car is different story. Configuring stuff you like, using all the driving assistance and etc.

I actually like the fact that this car is somewhat planted on road, it is not like a boat floating around (like VW Passat 132 or Audi A4) - which I really like. Firm, but comfortable ride.

Adaptive cruise is a God sent thing! M50 in traffic hour is a peace of cake now. Just enable it, set to the speed you wish, adjust distance to the car (!) in front and that is it. I have to say it took good few times before I started to trust the system.

! Warning / Note / Attention !
Regarding Adaptive and Distance - when using any of these and especially distance be Logical about it. If speed increases do not leave it on short to medium. Be very mindful if road has bends (even M50 type of bends) as front sensor sometimes spots the car in other lane and starts accelerating to the set speed, then obviously starts braking when acquires car in your lane - this is somewhat dangerous and also very not good for fuel efficiency.

I also had a chance to experience how car brakes itself to avoid collision! Freaking amazing! Not that I wanted to test it, it just happened. I had speed set to 55 with Adaptive Cruise and i think distance level 2 (see Warning above) on Drumcondra rd towards City. There was a stretch of clear road so car accelerated and then at the next red light started to slowdown but it was way too slow to stop before hitting the car. (I had set collision avoidance to "Early" in the menu before leaving). The car Actually sensed that it will collide and applied emergency braking - awesome! Dash blinked red for a fraction of second and brakes were slammed.

Will do my first FCP at Square shopping center this lunch time (colleagues can't wait to see how the car is).

Any questions - just ask :]

I guess you haven't used cruise control or adaptive cruise control before? it is not meant for city driving or M50 driving.

It is meant for open roads. I use it on motorway when it is open driving. So after I get out of Dublin I flick it on and use it all the way to Cork.

That is what cruise control is meant for. Adaptive is just an add on to help you having to stop using cruise control. SO you can stay asleep

I know on some of my other cars you needed to be at least at 40-50kph before you could use. Not sure yet on Golf as I havent tested, I did use on M3 recently and adaptive worked perfect

Using cruise in city driving or really on M50 and you are going to crash......

cros13

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I know on some of my other cars you needed to be at least at 40-50kph before you could use.

The newer adaptive cruise on cars like the i3 and Ioniq are camera-based systems (sometimes assisted by radar as well, but the primary sensor is the camera).

These systems actually tend to work better in traffic than at higher speeds, operate from 0km/h and can usually handle steering in traffic jams as well.

BMW even calls their assistive driving system "Traffic Assist". It's an entirely different animal to the radar-based adaptive cruise on the BMWs and Mercs of the past.

650Ginge

bk wrote: »

That is the problem isn't it, like many Irish people you want a 3 bedroom house, even within a city! That is the choice I'm on about.

Irish people have a massive mental block about living in apartments.

I made a different choice. I got a nice 2 bed apartment, just 30 minutes walk from my work and Dublin City Center and I love it.

Sure for the same money I could have gotten a 3 to 4 bedroom house way outside of the city, would have needed to buy a car and would have ended up spending all my time commuting.

Instead I save a large amount of money by not owning a car, have a very pleasant 30 minute walk home from work and get lots of extra time to spend with my family, while you guys commute long distances to your big houses!

With the money I save on not driving, I get to spend it on socialising and travel, 3 to 4 nights a week out in Dublin/Cork and with all the different places and events of Dublin right on my doorstep.

My colleagues who earn the same, but instead decided to buy the big house all look like zombies every day from all the commuting they do and they are always amazed by all the travel and socialising that I do and can't understand how I can afford it.

And yes before anyone says it, yes I have a kid. Still plenty of space in a two bedroom apartment for one to two kids. My apartment has lots of green space all around it for the kids to play in. Well over half the apartments in my building have kids and they all play together during the warmer days outside with one or two of the parents watching over them. There is a really good community spirit here.

So yes, it is a choice. We Irish continually make a dumb choice to want to live in 3 bed semi's even in a big city. This is why we have a housing crisis and why people are commuting insane distances.

What we should be doing is building high quality apartments, designed for families in mind, with green areas and play grounds below and close to public transport. A more European type mindset rather then the frankly insane US car culture mindset.

But don't kid yourself, it is definitely a choice.

Would you care to share the apartments you live in? I'm defo in too big a house too far out. An apartment is all I need but its a mine field picking one.

Pm me either.

I won't be getting rid of my car though. I love cars buy they do cost a lot more than people think.

Even Evs.

Living in town EV with ioniq range for weekends would be a good fit for me.

listermint

bk wrote: »

That is the problem isn't it, like many Irish people you want a 3 bedroom house, even within a city! That is the choice I'm on about.

Irish people have a massive mental block about living in apartments.

I made a different choice. I got a nice 2 bed apartment, just 30 minutes walk from my work and Dublin City Center and I love it.

Sure for the same money I could have gotten a 3 to 4 bedroom house way outside of the city, would have needed to buy a car and would have ended up spending all my time commuting.

Instead I save a large amount of money by not owning a car, have a very pleasant 30 minute walk home from work and get lots of extra time to spend with my family, while you guys commute long distances to your big houses!

With the money I save on not driving, I get to spend it on socialising and travel, 3 to 4 nights a week out in Dublin/Cork and with all the different places and events of Dublin right on my doorstep.

My colleagues who earn the same, but instead decided to buy the big house all look like zombies every day from all the commuting they do and they are always amazed by all the travel and socialising that I do and can't understand how I can afford it.

And yes before anyone says it, yes I have a kid. Still plenty of space in a two bedroom apartment for one to two kids. My apartment has lots of green space all around it for the kids to play in. Well over half the apartments in my building have kids and they all play together during the warmer days outside with one or two of the parents watching over them. There is a really good community spirit here.

So yes, it is a choice. We Irish continually make a dumb choice to want to live in 3 bed semi's even in a big city. This is why we have a housing crisis and why people are commuting insane distances.

What we should be doing is building high quality apartments, designed for families in mind, with green areas and play grounds below and close to public transport. A more European type mindset rather then the frankly insane US car culture mindset.

But don't kid yourself, it is definitely a choice.

You have 'some' good points but it falls flat when you call other people stupid. You havent lived in Dublin city your entire life. It is quite plausible many folks simply dont want to live on top of someone else. looking out their 'cool' apartment window into someone elses across the road or generally just living it the city as it is.

(ive lived in Dublin since birth)

You might find the though of going home in the evening to forest walks outside your door and having wide open space for the Kids and your dog. Perhaps a 5 minute drive to a sandy beach. And not peering into your neighbours windows everytime you open the blinds somewhat not you your taste.

But dont refer to peoples choices as dumb, it literally makes a mockery of your points, some of which can make sense for some folks.


'Choice!'



The Hyundai Ioniq and its likes makes these choices far cheaper for people to make and thats the beauty of electric vehicles.

unkel

Indeed. But in fairness, bk's point was from his previous post that you have a choice where you live or what your commute is.

punisher5112

I have no choice as I can't afford to live in Dublin where I work and can see us having to move even further as rent increases and because we are not in rent pressure zone means they can just keep increasing.

I was in Dublin and close to bray but now further out and if it goes up again we will be forced further again.

Hours I work also force me to have to have own transport. I wouldn't do without a car either way anyway as I love anything that moves petrol or EV.

isnottheword

unkel wrote: »

Indeed. But in fairness, bk's point was from his previous post that you have a choice where you live or what your commute is.

In principal, he's quite right. However, you can't legislate for circumstances dictating where you will live. I've twice been thwarted in living close to where I work. In each case, it can be done - but with a hell of a lot of difficulty - with the likelihood of losing substantial amounts of cash in both the buying and selling.
I won't bother fleshing out the point as we are heading well off topic but lets just say that the actions of .gov have a lot to answer for - as they have done more to create this scenario than to prevent it or alleviate it.

listermint

unkel wrote: »

Indeed. But in fairness, bk's point was from his previous post that you have a choice where you live or what your commute is.

I only raise it as he has used that 'dim' comment before because his choices are superior to everyone else's i.e we should all be living in the city.

Sorry, ive done it all my life.

No thanks.

Cheaper motoring, Sign me up!

unkel

listermint wrote: »

because his choices are superior to everyone else's

Almost all of the regular posters in this forum have some strong opinions, you me and bk included. Sometimes these are in line, sometimes they are polar opposites. That's what makes the forum fun, no?

I'm in one of those "sheep" cheap semi-d houses in a suburb far removed from Dublin city centre. I'd hate to live in the city centre at this stage of my life

Mope

Guys, help me here.
I'm in Square shopping center, 4 charging points here. They are 22kw, but my car is saying it will take 3hrs to fill up.
I have set everything to take maximum load when charging. Am I misunderstanding something? Should it not be like 20 min if not less? I'm at 45percent before charging, so not even empty

punisher5112

Mope wrote: »

Guys, help me here.
I'm in Square shopping center, 4 charging points here. They are 22kw, but my car is saying it will take 3hrs to fill up.
I have set everything to take maximum load when charging. Am I misunderstanding something? Should it not be like 20 min if not less? I'm at 45percent before charging, so not even empty

Is it possible the fast charge isn't enabled or its a slow charge point.

unkel

Yes you are charging on the slow AC charger. How much charge have you left? Could you make it to the fast DC charger in Lucan (about 10km)?

Edit - I see you have 45% left. It will take about 2 hours on the slow charger and about 20 minutes on the fast charger in Lucan...

DrPhilG

Surely the 3hr estimate is from a standard charger?

Evd-Burner

Mope wrote: »

Guys, help me here.
I'm in Square shopping center, 4 charging points here. They are 22kw, but my car is saying it will take 3hrs to fill up.
I have set everything to take maximum load when charging. Am I misunderstanding something? Should it not be like 20 min if not less? I'm at 45percent before charging, so not even empty

Is it 22kW AC? If so then it is not a fast charger. You need to be connected to a fast charger to charge in 20 minutes.

KCross

Mope wrote: »

Guys, help me here.
I'm in Square shopping center, 4 charging points here. They are 22kw, but my car is saying it will take 3hrs to fill up.
I have set everything to take maximum load when charging. Am I misunderstanding something? Should it not be like 20 min if not less? I'm at 45percent before charging, so not even empty

Your confusion is that they are 22kW chargers but its an SCP not an FCP so you are not taking 22kW from it. You are only getting what the car is capable of which is 7kW and probably somewhere around 6.5kW to the actual battery itself.

If you were at an FCP you would get the full rated amount into the car.


So, the 3hrs is about right for an SCP from 45-100% in an Ioniq.

Calahonda52

KCross wrote: »

So, the 3hrs is about right for an SCP from 45-100% in an Ioniq.

yep because 28kWh by 55% = 15.4kWh and it wont suck 6.5kW per hour flat for the three hours, it will drop off a bit as the battery reaches full.
More time to shop and spend all that mula you are saving on fossil fuels:D

MM3

Anyone tried the Ioniq with 3 kids in the back? Only one still in a car seat and ideally I'd like to place them in the middle. We've a 7 seater at the moment but I'd like to downsize next year to a 5 seater.

Thanks

M

Calahonda52

unkel wrote: »

Indeed. But in fairness, bk's point was from his previous post that you have a choice where you live or what your commute is.

Must be a Mod thing.... this idea that you do have a choice idea.

You only have a choice if you have financial and other resources to make such choices:

I meet a cleaning lady every morning in the gym at 06:30 who has the cleaning gig as one of 3 part time jobs: she walks to this job: you think this is her choice, its not, its all she can get to try make ends meet.

As for the original piece, I have selected a few lines.

bk wrote: »

1: We Irish continually make a dumb choice to want to live in 3 bed semi's even in a big city.
2:This is why we have a housing crisis and why people are commuting insane distances.

3: But don't kid yourself, it is definitely a choice.

What a [snip] set of statements.

stesaurus

Mope wrote: »

Guys, help me here.
I'm in Square shopping center, 4 charging points here. They are 22kw, but my car is saying it will take 3hrs to fill up.
I have set everything to take maximum load when charging. Am I misunderstanding something? Should it not be like 20 min if not less? I'm at 45percent before charging, so not even empty

I saw you mentioning fast charge at square earlier in thread and just assumed you'd used the wrong name.
There's no FCP in Tallaght. Nearest is Stillorgan P&R or Lucan but traffic would be crap from Tallaght at lunchtime.

bk

listermint wrote: »

You have 'some' good points but it falls flat when you call other people stupid. You havent lived in Dublin city your entire life. It is quite plausible many folks simply dont want to live on top of someone else. looking out their 'cool' apartment window into someone elses across the road or generally just living it the city as it is.

Hmm, I've been living in Dublin City for 15 years now and was born and raised in Cork city. So yup, I'm a total newbie :rolleyes:

I didn't call anyone stupid or dim, please don't put words in my mouth!

I did say that some people, perhaps many people make the choice to live in a 3 bedroom house way outside the city, without really thinking about if they actually need a 3 bed house or if a 2 bed apartment with a much shorter commute could better fit their needs.

I do think that is dumb as I said, but it doesn't make those people dumb!

In Ireland we seem to have a blinkered opinion that you most have a 3 to 4 bed semi and that apartments are only for students.

While I think this idea is dumb and the way that our government has allowed it to continue with planning decisions is dumb, I don't think people with this opinion are dumb. They just have never really thought about it and never really thought about the alternatives or even experienced them. Their parents grew up in a 3 bed semi, so they think it is the only option.

Just like people the majority of people who buy Diesels rather then looking into EV's etc. The decision might be dumb, but that doesn't make them dumb, they might just be misinformed or don't know about the alternatives and instead just go with what they have always known.

listermint wrote: »

You might find the though of going home in the evening to forest walks outside your door and having wide open space for the Kids and your dog. Perhaps a 5 minute drive to a sandy beach. And not peering into your neighbours windows everytime you open the blinds somewhat not you your taste.

The great thing about Dublin City is that you have all that on your doorstep too! Much of the city is just a few minutes ride from a nice sandy beach, I am. 30 minutes you are in Dublin mountains, 60 minutes Wicklow.

Want to stay closer to home, the largest walled city park and an amazing place is right their in Phoenix Park and many other great parks around the city for you to enjoy.

I'm a very enthusiastic hiker, you will find me out hiking most weekends and walking most evenings. The difference is I'll have an extra hour or so doing that with my kids in the evening due to being so close to work.

Also I'll point out that just because you live outside of the city, doesn't mean there is anything of interest around. Much of West Dublin is covered in nothing but pretty boring, featureless, housing estates, with little difference between them. You have to drive some distance to get to see or doing anything of interest.

Again, I'm not calling anyone dumb. I'm calling government policy dumb.

With the population of Dublin increasing quickly, we had two choices either grow up or grow out. It seems we have collectively chosen to grow out and I'm not sure at all if it the right choice or the healthy choice for our environment, our mental and social well being.

grogi

bk wrote: »

With the population of Dublin increasing quickly, we had two choices either grow up or grow out. It seems we have collectively chosen to grow out and I'm not sure at all if it the right choice or the healthy choice for our environment, our mental and social well being.

The city NEEDS to grow up. I really don't know why they don't in Ireland...

Myself never wanted a house... Lived all my life in apartament - from 3 floor to 15 floor buildings... But lack of sensible apartament options in Cork left us no choice really.

Mope

Thanks for such fast help with answers. Great community.
I was mislead by those 22kW, i thought since it's more than my regural charger of 6.6, it is automatically a fast charger.

So all 22kW AC CCS are not Fast Chargers or it depends?

cros13

OK, lads... I've had enough.

Take the urban planning discussion to http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=887, get back on topic.... or I'll put you in the cornfield :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jocI_R8lMpM

cros13

Mope wrote: »

Thanks for such fast help with answers. Great community.
I was mislead by those 22kW, i thought since it's more than my regural charger of 6.6, it is automatically a fast charger.

So all 22kW AC CCS are not Fast Chargers or it depends?

22kW AC are not CCS, they are Type 2. It is possible to have 22kW CCS... but none are installed in Ireland. Type 2 becomes Type 2 CCS with the addition of the two big DC pins on the bottom.
Type 2:


Type 2 CCS:


AC means you are relying on the car's on-board charger(s) to convert to DC and charge the battery. Your Ioniq only has a single phase 32A onboard charger which means you can only draw 7.4kW from one of the three AC phases the chargepoint has available. That chargepoint is nothing but a fancy socket with access control.

A DC rapid charger takes control of the battery from your car and bypasses the onboard charger(s). It's a much larger and more complex device because it needs to convert from AC to DC itself.

KCross

Mope wrote: »

Thanks for such fast help with answers. Great community.
I was mislead by those 22kW, i thought since it's more than my regural charger of 6.6, it is automatically a fast charger.

So all 22kW AC CCS are not Fast Chargers or it depends?

Have you looked at the eCars map?
CCS is rapid
AC is slow

Anything that is a green icon is "slow" anything that is a blue icon is rapid.

You need to filter on CCS to see the rapids since its an Ioniq you have
https://esb.ie/our-businesses/ecars/charge-point-map

Mope

cros13's post has to be a sticky! Definitely! Thank you

KCross, yes, used the app, filtered out CSS and did not see that Type 2 was selected as well by Default.

Remember, it is my First charge since owning the car :-) Noobish mistakes.

stesaurus

Lots to learn in a short space. We really need some very simple stickies that have the basic info easily at hand and can then dive into further details from that

Mope

At FSC now, GreatGas Donabate. Says 29mins to full. Was at 39prcnt I think. Don't think I am going to stay whole time. Meeting one of board directors tomorrow to discuss charging at work.

I guess it's good time to check in on PlugShare

unkel

MM3 wrote: »

Anyone tried the Ioniq with 3 kids in the back? Only one still in a car seat and ideally I'd like to place them in the middle.

I've 3 kids, in 4 years they'll all be teenagers, now the smallest one is on booster cushion. I can sit comfortably behind myself (I'm 1.87) with ok legroom and headroom and the car is fairly wide. A lot wider than a Nissan Leaf, so the 3 kids are comfortable that way

A child seat in the middle is never ideal and if your child still has the full size seat, I would probably prefer it on either side, but not in the middle. We've had the booster cushion in the middle and it's fine, but again, better on the side

But try for yourself, before you buy. Get a 24h test drive and get the whole family in!

unkel

@any of the Ioniq owners in here - FCP do not show up in my Nav, even though I have selected all charge types. Any other charge points do show up and they were updated via wifi (phone as wifi access point). But these are useless to me most of the time, I want the FCP showing!

Anyone else have this? Or to put it differently, anyone else got the FCP loaded?

And we might as well get a little register going of owners in here. I'll start it off, other owners please fill in your details:

1. Mope - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
2. unkel - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
3. liamog - Ioniq BEV - Polar White -
4. Fiery mutant - Ioniq BEV -
5.

Mope

I haven't tried giving the car WiFi yet, but will after reading your comments. I actually didn't check what type of chargers mine is showing, but i did go to a menu where you can specify what type of chargers consider as charging point.

Attached my car getting some tasty juice

MM3

unkel wrote: »

I've 3 kids, in 4 years they'll all be teenagers, now the smallest one is on booster cushion. I can sit comfortably behind myself (I'm 1.87) with ok legroom and headroom and the car is fairly wide. A lot wider than a Nissan Leaf, so the 3 kids are comfortable that way

A child seat in the middle is never ideal and if your child still has the full size seat, I would probably prefer it on either side, but not in the middle. We've had the booster cushion in the middle and it's fine, but again, better on the side

But try for yourself, before you buy. Get a 24h test drive and get the whole family in!

Thanks for the feedback - youngest sits in the middle seat at the moment which is fine as it's got isofix , I suspect he'll be in a booster by the time we change car next year.

I actually got to sit in one late this afternoon and I was impressed with the interior space , I'm 1.9m and could sit behind myself (just!). We'd regularly do a 250km trip west so hopefully Hyundai release a longer range version next year which would make it an easier sale to my partner as she doesn't fancy having to stop to charge.

M

Mope

Just to calm my head down... few things and questions were going through my head when I was doing those 2 different charging today.

Is there a Best practice or a MUST do way/sequence in which cables have to be connected to not cause any issues with equipment, battery or car? When at SCP, you take out your cable, plug it to CP, then to car or car then CP?
When at FCP, do you plug the car in and then go Swipe or you Swipe and then plug in?

What about car, while charging can you safely use all the stuff in car? NAV, settings, radio, media? What if you by accident "Start" the engine?

Before charging in any of Station - you MUST switch off car, correct?

Stupid questions possibly, but when I was doing it for the first time I felt insecure beside this buzzing charging station

BTW: while charging "EV" hard button to the right of panel does not work for me, the only way to go to "EV" is via Touchscreen. Is it the same in your car lads?